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peterspike 12-07-2014 08:33 AM

Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I was just wondering is it 100% that PayPal will release your cash after 180 days. Is there any law that says they do not have to release it ?

I wrote this thread as many other members may like to know this information.

yankee 12-07-2014 08:44 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I have lost a pile of money last year in two of my sellers paypal accounts. Both, the two biggest reasons were being rude and insulting along with legal action threats and another very big factor I believe is no credit or low credit scores.
IF both accounts did not supply SS info, the results may have been different.

Paypal is not a bank. They do not have to follow banking laws. They also have big pockets and exceptional user agreements that protect them in most every way. For example, in the USA, you have to sue them and have proceedings in the state they are Incorporated in. Another aspect is that if you can not prove you are who you say you are, how do they know they are giving the funds to the appropriate party? If they feel you are putting them at risk, keeping your money is a great deterrent for you to do this again.
Also, if you tick off ebay after your account becomes "unregistered" ebay can auto cancel all previous sales and drain your paypal account and all funding tied to it via user agreements. Great way to keep someone they don't want at bay....

A non active member here JSR, I know very well, has shed tears and has nightmares over this. Lots every dollar he had in the bank...

Radfele 12-07-2014 08:53 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterspike (Post 616956)
I was just wondering is it 100% that PayPal will release your cash after 180 days. Is there any law that says they do not have to release it ?

I wrote this thread as many other members may like to know this information.

I would like to know the answer myself, I have had 3 suspended and seemed to get the money out fine, once I even said that I cant provide docs cause it not in my name

Bunneh 12-07-2014 08:56 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
what does it say in the 180 days email you got?

peterspike 12-07-2014 12:12 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 616981)
what does it say in the 180 days email you got?

This is the mail I received

service@paypal.co.uk
To
me
Dec 6 at 11:36 AM
Dear Xxxxx Xxxxxxx,

After reviewing your PayPal account, we’ve determined there to be excessive
risk involved in doing business with you and we’d like to begin parting
ways in a manner that is least disruptive to your business.

If there is any money in your account balance, it will be held for 180 days
(from the date of the last payment you received) to cover any disputes that
might be opened by your buyers.

After 180 days, we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a
proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance.

If there are outstanding buyer complaints open against you, you can refund
your customers via the Resolution Centre in your PayPal account.

We reserve the right to close any account reported to be involved in
possible high-risk behaviour. In the event of a dispute, we’ll try to
recover the money from you by debiting your PayPal balance first and, if
there are insufficient funds in your PayPal balance, we reserve the right
to collect your debt to PayPal by any other legal means.

We appreciate your patience and understanding regarding this matter and
regret any inconvenience it may cause you.


Yours sincerely,

Serge
PayPal

shoyru 12-07-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I have 2 paypal USA stealth account , paypal limited past 180 days , I got email paypal let me withdraw fund and well I cant withdraw because they dont let me add bank account also cant add an address for request cheque too , I tried to call paypal but after provide all information they need , they tell me not account holder and cut off the fone , so until now I still withdraw my money even my paypal past 180 days and have email from paypal , finding someone can help but seem no hope .

rsot 12-07-2014 03:33 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Thankfully on my US and CA operations - 180 days have always been ok. No issues yet with UK operations but /knock on wood...

GreenBean 12-10-2014 12:53 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Paypal has refused to release funds for a number of sellers.

Many were from Asia.

Their funds were never released.

No action of theirs changed paypal's decision either.

:mad:

Callidus 12-10-2014 03:17 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I remember about £400 getting stuck about 4 years ago, in the scheme of things, it's not a big deal but still money that could be of been spent on RedBull or beer......

Shame on you PayPal!

J dub 1984 12-10-2014 03:32 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I'm really disgusted with PayPal and lately. They mine as well just start opening up their own stores. Well eBay. When I made a new Paypal account I wasn't asked for my SS# either this was recently. I wanted to open up a store on there but it says my account isn't verified. I linked my bank account there saying its not linked??

They use to be solid back in 2007-2011 then I was out of the game for awhile. There pretty sketchy.

Like a poster above said they're not a bank, they act as an escrow service really between two parties and once the transactions are complete given both parties have got their product and money why the heck do they feel the need to snoop around. I'm guessing they've been sued a lot.

pennslmmer 12-10-2014 11:01 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
wow.... give me another reason to not to sell too much under one account and not to keep too much funds in there either... this is bad...

jak 12-11-2014 03:43 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 616962)
Paypal is not a bank. They do not have to follow banking laws.

Remember MF Global in 2011? And what about Northern Rock 2007 bank in the UK? What about Lehman brothers? What about the 10% haircut which the central bank of Cyprus did on accounts over 100000 EUR deposits?

Bank or NO bank, do not trust ANY western DEBTOR nation with YOUR money, they are all the same! Now, if this happened in developing countries this is less likely to happen. However saying that all banks are the same they are all compulsive gamblers, they sick people who are running these firms and they use your MONEY and earned TIME to play around with.

Callidus 12-11-2014 05:52 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jak (Post 618670)
Remember MF Global in 2011? And what about Northern Rock 2007 bank in the UK? What about Lehman brothers? What about the 10% haircut which the central bank of Cyprus did on accounts over 100000 EUR deposits?

Bank or NO bank, do not trust ANY western DEBTOR nation with YOUR money, they are all the same! Now, if this happened in developing countries this is less likely to happen. However saying that all banks are the same they are all compulsive gamblers, they sick people who are running these firms and they use your MONEY and earned TIME to play around with.

:amen:

/10char

pokerpro 12-11-2014 06:29 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Knock on wood, never had this happen to me, but my BF had 8K frozen for 180 days....got it out ok after that time passed.

evicktd 12-11-2014 10:34 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyru (Post 617075)
I have 2 paypal USA stealth account , paypal limited past 180 days , I got email paypal let me withdraw fund and well I cant withdraw because they dont let me add bank account also cant add an address for request cheque too , I tried to call paypal but after provide all information they need , they tell me not account holder and cut off the fone , so until now I still withdraw my money even my paypal past 180 days and have email from paypal , finding someone can help but seem no hope .

so....you can't add a bank account after the 180 day period? how the F are you supposed to retrieve the funds then? :shocked:

shoyru 12-11-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evicktd (Post 618873)
so....you can't add a bank account after the 180 day period? how the F are you supposed to retrieve the funds then? :shocked:

Searching someone can help , dont know any way now T_T

steplav 12-12-2014 10:09 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I would also like to know what problems I may get after the 180 days -

My UK PP is limited and I just had my ID rejected.

after 180 days we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance


My pp acc has a confirmed bank and a credit card but Will I need to provide ID to get my money in 180 days?!

Thanks

peterspike 12-12-2014 12:56 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 619338)
I would also like to know what problems I may get after the 180 days -

My UK PP is limited and I just had my ID rejected.

after 180 days we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance


My pp acc has a confirmed bank and a credit card but Will I need to provide ID to get my money in 180 days?!

Thanks

It is very possible who knows with PayPal you are just best to wait it out and see, as this is a question we cant answer.

GreenBean 12-12-2014 01:53 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 619338)
I would also like to know what problems I may get after the 180 days -

My UK PP is limited and I just had my ID rejected.

after 180 days we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance


My pp acc has a confirmed bank and a credit card but Will I need to provide ID to get my money in 180 days?!

Thanks

Definitive answer not known as of this date.

We are at the stage of wait and see

AND hope.

:peace:

steplav 12-12-2014 04:22 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
6 months seems a long time to wait.

But I should think they must have to give it back eventually, there must be laws against them taking my money!

rsot 12-14-2014 08:21 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 619445)
6 months seems a long time to wait.

But I should think they must have to give it back eventually, there must be laws against them taking my money!

The way some of these platforms like PP are changing....it can be dangerous to assume that you are safe.

Knock on wood - no issues for me after 180 days yet

steplav 12-20-2014 05:36 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
I would hope that bad ID or no, that they would have to give you your money back after their waiting period.

Otherwise they are keeping what is not theirs and they after all have to stick to the rules.

yankee 12-20-2014 06:14 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 622310)
I would hope that bad ID or no, that they would have to give you your money back after their waiting period.

Otherwise they are keeping what is not theirs and they after all have to stick to the rules.

You aregreed to the terms and conditions of paypal. They play by paypals rules not yours.

rsot 12-20-2014 06:25 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 622329)
You aregreed to the terms and conditions of paypal. They play by paypals rules not yours.

That's true - a headache

Dmshark25 12-20-2014 06:26 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
If they feel at the end of the 180 days that the information on your paypal is incorrect , and if they think any fraudulent activity occurred than they will not release the funds to you

GreenBean 12-20-2014 06:36 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 622310)
I would hope that bad ID or no, that they would have to give you your money back after their waiting period.

Otherwise they are keeping what is not theirs and they after all have to stick to the rules.


STOP already with these posts.

When YOU signed up to use paypal, you agreed to their terms and conditions.

paypal can reatain any funds if they see fit.

paypal can release any funds if they see fit.

Hope yours is the latter.

evicktd 12-21-2014 05:43 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
^Nice avatar GB. Happy holidays

I have a bunch of accounts that have a VBA attached to them and they got perm limited. Is PayPal going to give me an option to withdraw these funds to another bank when time comes?

shoyru 12-22-2014 12:32 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evicktd (Post 622661)
^Nice avatar GB. Happy holidays

I have a bunch of accounts that have a VBA attached to them and they got perm limited. Is PayPal going to give me an option to withdraw these funds to another bank when time comes?

yes they will give you 2 options when 180 days past , add other bank or request a cheque , problem when you add new bank they may ask you verified account again with phone text or phone call , the old one you registered , new number not work . I did many paypal limited 180 days , right now paypal show a new problem I still cant solve yet , they wont allow add new bank just let me relogin again and again also cant address for cheque , finding a way , headache

steplav 12-23-2014 09:04 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
That is a pain if you have to get it refunded with a cheque in a wrong name!

On the UK PP accounts people generally have a Bank Acc added already, but in my email it said they may need me to confirm my ID after the 180 days, which obviously I can't do ):

GreenBean 12-24-2014 06:13 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 623341)
That is a pain if you have to get it refunded with a cheque in a wrong name!

On the UK PP accounts people generally have a Bank Acc added already, but in my email it said they may need me to confirm my ID after the 180 days, which obviously I can't do ):

Poster you are quoting is talking about older methods.

right now, and as we have said before, we do not have the exact info for the new limitations.

Still to getting info from people who are dealing with this actively.

SamuelJackson 12-25-2014 02:36 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Oh wee, lots of hypothetics here but not really a clear answer. Too bad I can't give one either. Haha.
It's about jurisdictions and even much more, some countries have issues with companies obviously stealing money. It depends on where the companies have seats or offices and/or want to operate.

peterspike 01-12-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuelJackson (Post 623761)
Oh wee, lots of hypothetics here but not really a clear answer. Too bad I can't give one either. Haha.
It's about jurisdictions and even much more, some countries have issues with companies obviously stealing money. It depends on where the companies have seats or offices and/or want to operate.

I will update the thread in 4 months with my answer, I have 3K to cashout :thumb:

elitepowersales 01-19-2015 02:02 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyru (Post 622747)
yes they will give you 2 options when 180 days past , add other bank or request a cheque , problem when you add new bank they may ask you verified account again with phone text or phone call , the old one you registered , new number not work . I did many paypal limited 180 days , right now paypal show a new problem I still cant solve yet , they wont allow add new bank just let me relogin again and again also cant address for cheque , finding a way , headache

I am having the exact same problem. They will not let you add or change your old phone number so you can add a new bank account. I just usually go negative on my other paypal accounts to make up for it.

moxy 01-19-2015 11:55 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Just some positivity to share with you guys.
I think i was one of the first to have 3 pp accounts burned in November. I had £300 in 1 account and last week was able to withdraw it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was shocked so it shows pp a law unto themselves.
Hope you guys have the same luck.
Moxy

rsot 01-19-2015 12:17 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Congrats moxy

GreenBean 01-19-2015 05:08 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moxy (Post 633095)
Just some positivity to share with you guys.
I think i was one of the first to have 3 pp accounts burned in November. I had £300 in 1 account and last week was able to withdraw it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was shocked so it shows pp a law unto themselves.
Hope you guys have the same luck.
Moxy

That's great.

Any notice or you just checked your own bank account?

:spy:

pennslmmer 01-20-2015 06:17 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steplav (Post 619338)
I would also like to know what problems I may get after the 180 days -

My UK PP is limited and I just had my ID rejected.

after 180 days we may ask you to provide us with a proof of identity and a proof of address before you can withdraw any remaining balance


My pp acc has a confirmed bank and a credit card but Will I need to provide ID to get my money in 180 days?!

Thanks

That's a new one... :mad2: ... I have been shut down for not providing an ID but insisting that you might have to provide it to them after 180 days is BS...

GreenBean 01-20-2015 06:30 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pennslmmer (Post 633577)
That's a new one... :mad2: ... I have been shut down for not providing an ID but insisting that you might have to provide it to them after 180 days is BS...

Bear in mind that poster is from the UK.

paypal there did some massive changes to their game.

They have changed around the rules to suit themselves.

Slowly, workarounds are being found.

But they take time to establish as working.

FYI, paypal UK announced those changes as far back as July last year. But how they put them into action is horrific.
:mad:

elscapo 01-23-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
From what I have noticed opening ste@lth accounts in many countries. When you run into problems is in the EU because there is a receiving limit of 2500 EUR if you go past this limit without providing ID and then your account subsequently gets limited and you choose to not provide ID (or the id gets rejected as it often will with stealth accounts) then it seems you can never get the money out, that is what has happened on numerous occasions, so be very careful with receiving limits on E.U registered accounts.

bigheadedmouse 01-25-2015 06:04 AM

Re: Have any of you been refused your cash after 180 days ?
 
today is my 180th day, and I haven't received any email from pp allowing me to withdraw just yet...

i hope i get that email soon today...scared...


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