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Just realised why 2 Accoounts limited
 

I just realized that 2 pp accs I had limited were selling an item I had bought in bulk and then sold in a smaller quantity with a reprinted label from the manufacturer.
I suppose it was wrong of me to reprint the manufacturers label in a smaller size and attach this to the items and I wont do this again!
Can anyone tell me precisely why this is not allowed?
And also can I legally buy something in bulk and then resell it on ebay in smaller quantities?

Thanks

Re: Just realised why 2 Accoounts limited
 

Yes, that is basically what everyone on eBay does or tries to do.

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But reprinting a manufacturers label and trade mark to fit your smaller packaging is illegal ?

So I need to sell my repackaged item in a plain packet and perhaps explain its origins and I wont get reported and my PP accounts limited ?

(shame really as its a good earner and people do like to see a brand name label)

thanks

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You stated "limitation". What was the limitation notice? What did it specifically say? Did they ask for any documentation?

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they just said -

We recently noticed an issue with your account. For information on what you can and can't do while your account is limited, go to the Resolution Centre.

Why is my account access limited?
Your account access has been limited for the following reason(s):
10 Dec 2014: For reasons relating to the safe use of the PayPal Service we need some more information about you and your account to help confirm your identity.
(Your case ID for this reason is*PP-00*-xxx-xxx-xxx.)*

What can't I do while my account is limited?
• send money
• withdraw money from your account
• receive or request money
• close your account
• add money to your account
• remove a card
• remove a bank account

And when I phoned they could not say why it was limited and simply did not want to do business with me any more!

It took me a few days to realise I must have been reported by the manufacturer or a competitor as it happened on both the accounts I have selling this repackaged item.

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That limitation is nothing to do with your selling activity. You've been hit with the same limitation that dozens of other UK members have had.

When did you make the accounts and had you lifted the receiving limits?

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You also might want to edit out the case ID. Leaving it place just lets Paypal know they made the right decision to close your stealth accounts. ;)

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Limited on the two accounts selling primarily this repackaged item and when I call they ask me questions about this item I am selling and are not after ID and just want to terminate my accounts.

I am pretty certain why they limited my accounts!

Just wish I had caught on sooner.

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Oops forgot about the ID!

And its daft little mistakes like this that get my accounts closed.

Thanks to the moderator for removing them.

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That's not the reason but if you want to believe it is then don't let me stop you.

The reason your accounts were shut down is because they "need some more information about you and your account to help confirm your identity".

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@steplav, were you using the same pp to buy from your manufacturer and sell to customers i.e. accept payment?

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Hi, I appreciate your reply and that you will have more experience of this than me but then why would PP specifically ask me questions about this item I am selling and then not even wait to ask for ID before informing me they they no longer wished to do business with me?

I think the limitation notice is a standard one and it does mention a request for further info about me, but I dont think that is important.

When I have called B4 and it was about ID they asked no questions about what I was selling or where I got it from, they just wanted me to send ID.

I have to say the Irish PP guy was v smooth and pleasant, so it took a few days to register what the questions about the items I selling meant.

I could be wrong, but I dont think so.

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No, I did not buy and sell from the same account.

I do remember when I thought about getting the labels printed up thinking, "I bet these guys have someone checking google to see if anyone is ripping them off."

and do a google search and its easy to see what I'm selling as its a pretty niche product with a strong brand name.

Hopefully they wont mind if I sell it as their brand without a reprint label and showing a picture of the large barrel it comes in !

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Are you selling risky items? I highly doubt it was just the label thing that brought down your account...

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Its nothing risky, but it is a strong brand name selling a high quality, fairly expensive product to a pretty niche market.

All you have to do is google the product the name and my item comes up near the top on ebay. (at the very top in google shopping)

They would probably assume it is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ as I am selling it in a volume and packaging that they dont supply and they label is a bit of one of theirs but professionally reprinted on sticky labels, so to them the whole thing would look like a ⊗⊗⊗⊗. And its much cheaper than what they usually charge as I got a whole barrel for cheap.

I would do the same if I were them so I cant complain.

Bit gutted though as I was selling 100 a month and making 50% profit even after fees and postage!

Re: Just realised why 2 Accoounts limited
 

You ARE wrong! Listen to what members that have more knowledge than you are saying! It has nothing to do with your items

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Brand name....could be that someone manually looked at your account - saw the brand name sales - and could have gutted you based on that.

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DOZENS of UK accounts if not hundreds from forum members have been limited recently. Pretty much the same exact thing.

IF the manufacturer or Trademark holder had an issue with you it would be through ebay, not paypal. Ebay would have issued a VERO warning or closed the account, NOT paypal. A VERO rights holder would have almost no reason to contact paypal unless a court order was issued to obtain depth of damages in a law suit.

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I accept your opinions but I still think its very possible.

I know if owned a big brand name like that I would be checking for rip offs.

And a quick email or call to PP would be the easy route to stopping a small time incursion. These big companies will deal with things like this all the time and taking one ebay seller to court is not going to be efficient. I know what I would do if I were them.

My account was not limited to check ID or they would have asked me for some when I spoke to them, surely.

Maybe it was just PP seeing me sell lots of one brand name item packaged different from usual.

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Brick wall, head, anyone?

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The lights are on but nobody's home

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This issue is nothing to do with your item.

Its as simple as that.

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Well thx for all your replies!

I would love to start selling it again with my labels stuck on as it did look good.

But I find it hard to believe that the reason for those 2 accounts being limited was nothing to do with PP not liking what I was selling. After all, why was I questioned about what I was selling.

The guy said, "looks like you are selling a lot of these items all at the same price?", "Yes I said its some #@$% I had left over I wanted to sell on." Pause for a while while he fiddles about, then "well sir I'm afraid we will have to close your account and you can no longer use PP services." me' "What never ever again?" PP, "yes i'm afraid so" me, "ok bye"

Its cant be normal to have your accounts permanently terminated unless they are unhappy about something, after all I was making them good money and had excellent feedback.

I they wanted to confirm my ID then they would have asked me send in some docs and if its not id then it must be what i'm selling i believe.

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:rolleyes: :faint: :violin: :sleepy:

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Believe what you want but common sense prevails....

If it was item it would be on EBAY... the only time paypal would be involved if they were getting complaints from BUYERS of foo foo items via claims and credit card charge-backs.
IF they had a concern with the items it would be a invoice request.

Just think about the facts for a moment.

Dozens of other UK members have been complaining about the same issues you have and they don't sell the same things you do.

As for confirming identity, it is easier to just limit the account. Why waste time?

This issue is in no way unique to you at all in any way.

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Yes it is a very sad story and brings a small tear to my eye

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Please listen to the more experienced members. It isn't anything to do with what you're selling. The reason they gave was they wanted you to confirm your identity. A lot of other UK users have had the same limitation message about confirming their identity but it cannot be appealed against. Luckily, I haven't had any issues, yet. I only run one stealth as well what I've built up since 2011.

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That's PayPal for you! Bringing tears to a lot of people's eyes in the last month or so.

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But they haven't just limited my acc, theyve closed it!

And I had one account limited wanting ID and that was a very different phone call.

Perhaps no one did complain, but they did not like the look of something to close it all sudden like that with no request for evidence where I got it from They were quickly very certain they did not want me as a customer any more based only on questions about what I'm selling.

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Bash head against floor! :smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash:

NO FUNDS in the account would be closed. Limited would be if funds were held.

Lucky you! Most people have lost all the funds for 180 days if they ever get it back. Many many many had paypal return funds to the buyers..

You are correct, THEY DON'T LIKE YOU and it has NOTHING to do with your item.

Why make a thread and ask questions if you don't want answers? Rhetorical

Re: Just realised why 2 Accoounts limited
 

Do you read the threads on this forum?

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Speaking to Paypal on the phone is always a bad idea anyway as they nearly always find something that they don't like. It's always advised but sometimes people have no other choice.

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a few sandwiches short of a picnic

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:faint:

OP....listen to what forum members are saying. Youve had replys off some VERY experienced stealthers here.

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Sadly I do have money in the account which they will review every 30 days until they are happy to give it back.

I have read very carefully all the answers people are kind enough to give, but the ways of PP are mysterious and who can be so certain exactly why?

But I know that he was very interested in what I was selling and then immediately closed my account.

(I prefer a pasta salad in my picnic anyway)

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No no no, that will not be the reason why your accounts got limited, read the posts on here about the number of accounts that have gone down, and what happened each time they went down, people unable to provide believable documentation to prove they are who they say they are, just about every time an account is limited now the sellers are asked to upload ID in one form or another which as stealth account holders, they cannot do, there are many many sellers who have been losing accounts, who cares what labels you put on your packages, I have never heard of anyone using labels copied from the manufacturers original products, I can't believe its that widespread especially these days and it's not enough of a big deal to lose accounts over, it is all over this forum now that accounts are going down more now with the time of year and also with the new ID checks being introduced by paypal and

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No they never do Yankee, then they come on here and they are without a clue!!

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hahahahahahahahahaha

I love this thread :)

Watch for all your other accounts steplav too. Some forum members lost batches of them at a time.

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Rock the boat and PayPal will refund your buyers automatically. This issue is not remotely isolated to you. You are months behind this PayPal avalanche.

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Hehehe tell it like it is Yankee!