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Breakthecycle2 01-08-2015 01:54 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
I did, yes.

yankee 01-08-2015 01:58 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 629100)
20k a day over and over

I have also stated that I am new to this stealth stuff(not including EIN accounts), that I have only done this since late November and that a year from now I could feel differently. Other members have done the same things and have shared it on this forum. You seem to not read those threads I guess....
and I have also stated that my items are not risky to ebay at all.

I think you miss interpret what I say.

yankee 01-08-2015 02:00 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakthecycle2 (Post 629112)
I did, yes.

It is an industry issue it seems. That sucks.

danshan 01-08-2015 02:03 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
I have not read those threads can you send me a link to one

yankee 01-08-2015 02:21 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 629116)
I have not read those threads can you send me a link to one

this banter with you today has made me miss my job interview at McDonalds. Seriously!

danshan 01-08-2015 02:22 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Ooh another knockdown of working class by the billionaire

yankee 01-08-2015 02:27 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
I am dead serious. I swear on my own two eyes. Look at the chatbox. Been talking about it this morning.

If you feel someone elses success is a knockdown, Then I feel VERY SAD for you. Really.

danshan 01-08-2015 02:31 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
I feel sad for me too, i only sold 400 dollars today missed the mark by 14600 like the rest of you 20k a day new stealth acct guys

yankee 01-08-2015 02:41 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 629137)
I feel sad for me too, i only sold 400 dollars today missed the mark by 14600 like the rest of you 20k a day new stealth acct guys

That my friend I can not help you with, although, I have tried.
As for the bash about new accounts, I can not express anymore, they are aged....I usually don't even log into an account for many many months for example. But again, you read what you want, not what people say.

I have not sold anything since Sunday on a stealth. Did not list anything. Decided to apply for a job for a new learning experience. I choose McD's because they have the worlds best business systems.

:welcome;

RosieTosie 01-08-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 629142)
That my friend I can not help you with, although, I have tried.
As for the bash about new accounts, I can not express anymore, they are aged....I usually don't even log into an account for many many months for example. But again, you read what you want, not what people say.

I have not sold anything since Sunday on a stealth. Did not list anything. Decided to apply for a job for a new learning experience. I choose McD's because they have the worlds best business systems.

:welcome;

Hehe Yankee you say they have the worlds best business systems, probably across the pond that's true, you should see them over here in the UK, where the opposite is most definitely true!!

SamuelJackson 01-13-2015 03:51 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Decided to apply for a job for a new learning experience. I choose McD's because they have the worlds best business systems.
Are you serious?
:pound:

BigCJ 01-13-2015 04:10 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 629071)
I see what he is doing as direspectful. Many people have been on this forum for a long time writing and trying to help ourselves and others and for him to just come on here and say all that we say is bs "you can sell 20k a day " " i personally never had a problem with paypal" that is disrespectful. We all preach start slow and grow and him saying those outlandish things and people reading them and trying the same thing and ruining their accounts because of it and thinking the forum is bs because selling 20k a month did not work for them is the real tragedy

My question is this: why does it matter to you?

At the end of the day you can do one of 2 things, Take his advice or ignore him.
This is with any and all forum members.

If it works for him then great....Does what he say affect your bills? Your sales? Did he pay your mortgage last month?

There are some people that can/know how to run an account such as his and some that do not.

The 'slow and grow' stance still stands...

Guess what? When I make new accounts, I list right away and DO NOT get MC999s for the first items listed (Knock on wood)... many forum members are against it. Is that being disrespectful?

This is something that works for ME to get MY accounts up and running. Not yours, or yankee's method.

danshan 01-13-2015 04:11 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Your opinion great! But in my opinion giving bad info to members is bad news but mainly i enjoy messing with him

danshan 01-13-2015 04:14 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuelJackson (Post 631089)
Are you serious?
[emoji14]ound:

Yes he is serious, he is the only fry cook wearing armani

yankee 01-13-2015 04:15 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 631099)
Your opinion great! But in my opinion giving bad info to members is bad news but mainly i enjoy messing with him

Nice edit by-the-way.

danshan 01-13-2015 04:16 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Yeah i thought he was talking about something else till i read it

yankee 01-13-2015 04:20 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 631102)
Yeah i thought he was talking about something else till i read it

You have selective reading abilities.

I don't know how you feel this school boy banter is helpful to the forum. It is worthless garbage and most people don't find it entertaining. But hey, keep doing it. Looks good on you.

GreenBean 01-13-2015 04:20 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Look, danshan, ask him out for date.

Take your man crush off the forum and stop polluting every thread with digs at yankee.

Fact of life people may do better in business than others.

Either find out how to be as good or just go on being a toerag.

:pop2:

danshan 01-13-2015 04:21 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Oh i still stand by your garbage bloating is harmful for sure. I only pokevfun at the king of the world comments

danshan 01-13-2015 04:22 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Lol gb so you believe his bs too and if you think the majority of my posts are at him you need to read my posts again

BigCJ 01-13-2015 04:27 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Lol Im still trying to figure out what 'bad advice' hes giving out?

He just said how much its possible to make on an account.

Bad advice would be: Call paypal to release your funds from the 21 day hold on a phake pandora bracelet you sold for 4k

He is telling others of the potential others could reach for and possible business Ideas...

Im baffled...you seem to be turning this into an obsession.

danshan 01-13-2015 04:30 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Yes your right, all new stealthers can sell 15k a day with no holds and never get limited you are right. I will stop now and obviously he is your little friend because i do not see you mentioning anything about the garbage and names he calls me. And btw how does it concern you?

GreenBean 01-13-2015 04:34 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 631112)
Yes your right, all new stealthers can sell 15k a day with no holds and never get limited you are right. I will stop now and obviously he is your little friend because i do not see you mentioning anything about the garbage and names he calls me. And btw how does it concern you?

Others tend to get concerned when a thread is an exchange of your verbaling another user on the grounds you disbelieve him.

There has not been a post on topic for a couple of pages.

:amen:

danshan 01-13-2015 04:36 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
I agree with that on this thread, you are right, i had moved on to be honest but someone else commented to me so i replied again

yankee 01-13-2015 04:50 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Last response from me:
What value did you add to this thread danshan?
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...epartment.html

danshan 01-13-2015 04:50 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Gb said to leave you alone so i am

MM78 01-13-2015 07:50 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 

big tymer 01-14-2015 12:15 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
the only problem I have with the 21 day holds is that coupled with eBay's selling limits for new accounts, how do they (ebay since they also own pp) expect to get new people to want to sell on their site.

they run ads on how great it is to sell on ebay and how people make money selling stupid stuff, but the reality is 1. for a new account you can sell 10 items a month and 2. you don't get access to your money for a week to 3 weeks. it just drives would be new ebay seller away. most people want to sell stuff right now, they don't know about growing accounts, they just want to clear their house, not bits and pieces at a time. then when you couple it with holding the money for a period of time even if it is just a few days, people will just say forget it and have a garage sale. 3. if new seller has to call ebay because his account is limited and they get some guy in Mumbai - 'nuff said.

a lot of people that sell on ebay are also buyers on ebay. at least they were in the past. I would rather see the site grow than get smaller. adding sellers makes it bigger. throttling sellers just drives them away.

of course I am assuming and giving new sellers the benefit of the doubt that they are not scammers. I guess my complaint is more tied to ebay than pp itself but since they are one in the same I just lump them together.

I am happy about any holds on my money, no of course not, but that's life sometimes and you have to roll with it.

Dmshark25 01-14-2015 12:22 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
EBay is not catering to the buyer that has an older model cell phone or tablet and once to sell that

So the buyer that may sell 3-4 items all year

This is what they want, they already have there main sellers in, they really do not want anyone else making a living from selling on eBay, an they set that type of seller up to fail

That's why we need to play the game to be able to actually earn a living selling

They prefer that occasional seller that is really a buyer, and new accounts get throttled more traffic, so it's great for that buyer that has an iPhone 5 and wants to sell it and get the iPhone 6, and they will get a great high price and every year will do the same

GreenBean 01-14-2015 02:27 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big tymer (Post 631433)

I am happy about any holds on my money, no of course not, but that's life sometimes and you have to roll with it.

You make the choice at the time the accounts are made how to roll with the demands of paypal/ebay.

Now I actually worry more about paypal than ebay.

ebay is of little use if I can not access my funds.

I take steps to have that paypal attached to ebay ready AND working.

:dance:

danshan 01-14-2015 02:30 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Even in the old pre divorce days they were separated in a sense. I had many account where the pp was fine and ebay died or the opposite and honestly i probably still somewhere have pp or ebs that are ok but there linker is dead. One without the other and more emphasis on pp is a good play in the new world

big tymer 01-14-2015 03:17 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 631502)

Now I actually worry more about paypal than ebay.

ebay is of little use if I can not access my funds.

I agree, a working paypal account is way more important than a working ebay account. I don't really care if I can't sell on ebay (in fact life is a lot less hassle sometimes when not dealing with ebay) but since most of online shoppers use paypal unless you have a merchant account, paypal is critical to getting paid online. Life goes on without ebay, but for many, it would be a major problem if paypal went down. So if paypal has to impose tighter restrictions to weed out bad apples to make their position stronger, so be it.

Would be nice if a payment company would rise to the occasion and compete, but there have been many that tried and failed over the years.

aking 01-14-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big tymer (Post 631433)
the only problem I have with the 21 day holds is that coupled with eBay's selling limits for new accounts, how do they (ebay since they also own pp) expect to get new people to want to sell on their site.

they run ads on how great it is to sell on ebay and how people make money selling stupid stuff, but the reality is 1. for a new account you can sell 10 items a month and 2. you don't get access to your money for a week to 3 weeks. it just drives would be new ebay seller away. most people want to sell stuff right now, they don't know about growing accounts, they just want to clear their house, not bits and pieces at a time. then when you couple it with holding the money for a period of time even if it is just a few days, people will just say forget it and have a garage sale. 3. if new seller has to call ebay because his account is limited and they get some guy in Mumbai - 'nuff said.

a lot of people that sell on ebay are also buyers on ebay. at least they were in the past. I would rather see the site grow than get smaller. adding sellers makes it bigger. throttling sellers just drives them away.

of course I am assuming and giving new sellers the benefit of the doubt that they are not scammers. I guess my complaint is more tied to ebay than pp itself but since they are one in the same I just lump them together.

I am happy about any holds on my money, no of course not, but that's life sometimes and you have to roll with it.

This is what I want, less competition!!! :dance: Except with you guys!! (oops) lol

dealagreeproceed 01-15-2015 09:34 AM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
:pop2:
wow whens part 7 of this drama series being released.
cant wait!:clap:

rsot 01-15-2015 10:56 AM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed (Post 631812)
:pop2:
wow whens part 7 of this drama series being released.
cant wait!:clap:

Paypal should have a drama series done...real TV

SamuelJackson 01-16-2015 07:03 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 631829)
Paypal should have a drama series done...real TV

I'm up to that.
lol.

Shabaz9786 08-18-2015 02:31 AM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
It's bad for business. The more money you have available, the more you can purchase and grow your inventory. 21 days hold is absolutely ridiculous.

galigusso 08-18-2015 12:38 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 628417)
eBay themselves bump you down the listings sometimes on older accounts.

Totally agree. The same story with my 3 month account vs 5 years. The 3month shows better visibility and is ranked higher - better sales with the same product.

galigusso 08-18-2015 12:41 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shabaz9786 (Post 696148)
It's bad for business. The more money you have available, the more you can purchase and grow your inventory. 21 days hold is absolutely ridiculous.

It depends on your products. I usually ship express and get the 2d or 3d day delivery. So I don't feel the difference (maybe only at the time of withdrawal).

xengadt 08-19-2015 10:09 PM

Re: Can someone explain to me the angst against 21 day holds?
 
Just wait or you can add tracking numbers and request buyer confirm got your item and money will release soon.


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