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| lucas66 | 02-19-2015 05:11 AM | Paypal limited Hi guys
My first post here.
Basically I had a legit account limited without any reason.
It's a UK business, everything is legit, account has been operating for 2+ years, $150k+ has gone through it, never had any problems.
One day I just received an email saying the account is limited. Tried to appeal to see what's going on and received a final message that my appeal was refused "because of certain activity that took place relating to your
account".
Tried to call them, they just recite the above and never even tell me why it happened.
The only thing I can think of is that I had a bit more refunds than before but nothing too significant I would say.
As for the money on the account, they said they will review the account every 30 days. Does it really happen? Or will I have to wait the full 180 days?
Thanks for the help. |
Re: Paypal limited Welcome to the forums - I wouldnt keep hopes up for anything short of 180 days...that being said, if it's sooner...count it as a blessing.
Sorry to hear about your business |
| lucas66 | 02-19-2015 05:23 AM | Re: Paypal limited So there's no way to get the money back quicker?
I've read here that making a sob story to corporate might speed things up. Is that true?
thanks |
| JamesNorth101 | 02-19-2015 05:41 AM | Re: Paypal limited Sometimes they do release money faster than the 180 days mark, but its pretty much upto PayPal if they choose to release the money or not. |
| wired | 02-19-2015 05:44 AM | Re: Paypal limited All my accounts cleared for withdrawal after 60 days. Two of which I sent 'sob' stories too, one of which I didnt.
The accounts get looked at every thirty days, and sometimes do a rolling withdrawal, so each month you will get a portion to withdraw.
If the account is truly legit, I would contact the Financial Ombudsmen immediately. This takes a few weeks, but I have heard great success stories of this with genuine accounts.
Either way, you wont get the money this week or next unfortunately, but you might be able to speed up the process with the above methods.
Good luck. |
| GreenBean | 02-19-2015 06:19 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas66
(Post 643796)
As for the money on the account, they said they will review the account every 30 days. Does it really happen? Or will I have to wait the full 180 days?
Thanks for the help. | That offer has been made to some users whose funds are in a limited accounts.
Some users have got their funds back. Others have not be lucky.
Outcome differs for every account.
Paypal are overdrawn on sob stories. Be aware of that in advance. ;) |
| lucas66 | 02-19-2015 12:14 PM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by wired
(Post 643810)
If the account is truly legit, I would contact the Financial Ombudsmen immediately. This takes a few weeks, but I have heard great success stories of this with genuine accounts. | What do they do exactly?
Making Paypal even more angry at this point would probably lead to waiting the full 180 days :)
Thanks for the advice everyone |
| wired | 02-19-2015 02:28 PM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas66
(Post 643887)
What do they do exactly?
Making Paypal even more angry at this point would probably lead to waiting the full 180 days :)
Thanks for the advice everyone | Call them and have a chat, they are really nice and they are now used to dealing with this with PayPal, ive had some great chats with the advisors there.
It wont make them 'angry' , and if your account is legit like you said, you will see it can gets sorted in six weeks. |
Re: Paypal limited Welcome to the forums - time to learn stealth and apply it - 180 days way is the norm for limited accounts....in general |
| GreenBean | 02-20-2015 01:20 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 643805)
Welcome to the forums - I wouldnt keep hopes up for anything short of 180 days...that being said, if it's sooner...count it as a blessing.
Sorry to hear about your business | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 644102)
Welcome to the forums - time to learn stealth and apply it - 180 days way is the norm for limited accounts....in general |
Well Done, you total doofus.
Glad you are making such a great effort to improve.
NOT working though.
:cheer: |
| wired | 02-20-2015 05:53 AM | Re: Paypal limited Love it when two foreigners comment on UK issues.
:) |
| shoyru | 02-21-2015 12:41 PM | Re: Paypal limited sometimes you can get monet next 45 days not 180 days , I got some email tell my paypal will limited 180 days but well after 45 days I got email withdraw from paypal . |
| lucas66 | 03-06-2015 09:51 PM | Re: Paypal limited Small update:
I was hoping for a small release after 30 days but Paypal disagrees.
They offered $0 to be released :)
I see some people getting lucky after 45 days though.
I guess it's time to contact Financial Ombudsmen. Quote:
We're holding funds in reserve to cover any possible account liabilities because of your account limitation. We'll review your account on a monthly basis and will release your funds between 30 and 180 days.
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| RosieTosie | 03-07-2015 07:33 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas66
(Post 648113)
Small update:
I was hoping for a small release after 30 days but Paypal disagrees.
They offered $0 to be released :)
I see some people getting lucky after 45 days though.
I guess it's time to contact Financial Ombudsmen. | Good luck with the Ombusman who is in the pocket of the banks so can do zilch over anything to do with them, and as such are probably in cohorts with paypal to maybe a lesser extent as well. Hopefully you didn't really leave to much money in your paypal on a regular basis ! |
| wired | 03-07-2015 08:26 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas66
(Post 648113)
Small update:
I was hoping for a small release after 30 days but Paypal disagrees.
They offered $0 to be released :)
I see some people getting lucky after 45 days though.
I guess it's time to contact Financial Ombudsmen. | You very rarely get anything at 30 days. You will get the Reserve and release amounts and the release is normally empty.
You will probably see some at 60 days. Sometimes you will see the majority of it at 60 days depending on charge backs, refunds etc in the time elapsed. |
| wired | 03-07-2015 08:28 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by RosieTosie
(Post 648205)
Good luck with the Ombusman who is in the pocket of the banks so can do zilch over anything to do with them, and as such are probably in cohorts with paypal to maybe a lesser extent as well. Hopefully you didn't really leave to much money in your paypal on a regular basis ! | Have you looked at the statistics of the cases rhe FO has won when tackling PayPal? Its actually much to the contrary of your statement.
I cant find the link, but the information is out there.
You can do a Freedom of Information request with the FO for all the cases and results statistics of cases with PayPal, which is what the user did on the forum i found the info.
But I do agree , never leave anything in there other than to cover a few returns etc. I made that mistake once :) |
| RosieTosie | 03-07-2015 12:29 PM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by wired
(Post 648208)
Have you looked at the statistics of the cases rhe FO has won when tackling PayPal? Its actually much to the contrary of your statement.
I cant find the link, but the information is out there.
You can do a Freedom of Information request with the FO for all the cases and results statistics of cases with PayPal, which is what the user did on the forum i found the info.
But I do agree , never leave anything in there other than to cover a few returns etc. I made that mistake once :) | To many people have left to much in their paypal only to find it is very much at risk if the get suspended and they suddenly have to face up to the reality of having to wait 180 days to have a chance of getting it back and people are increasingly being advised that there are no guarantees they will get it back at all. |
Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by wired
(Post 648208)
Have you looked at the statistics of the cases rhe FO has won when tackling PayPal? Its actually much to the contrary of your statement.
I cant find the link, but the information is out there.
You can do a Freedom of Information request with the FO for all the cases and results statistics of cases with PayPal, which is what the user did on the forum i found the info.
But I do agree , never leave anything in there other than to cover a few returns etc. I made that mistake once :) | FO is nothing but a front to show that "they" on "your side" if the banks or financial institution do any misbehavior, they "act at the middle man".. yeah what BS.
I mean if the FO were so great what about the Banks over charging customers, when they go over by 1gbp, what about the libor scandal? What about the PPI scandal? What about the latest bank of England scandal with Crash and cash? And hey the SFO are involved.. wow.. you seriously think anything going to happen? Of course not! Because the BANKS control the government and lobby the governments aggressively, and it's just for theatrical show.
You explain that the FO made cases and results against paypal, yes they will but what is the amount paypal is holding? 100gbp? If the amount is higher =>5000gbp paypal will not allow that money to release, to you even if they complain to the FO. They will make any excuse to the FO to hold on to that money because they want that usury % fee's remember.. and sometimes even report you to the authorities and take the money OUT of your account if you have a criminal case against your paypal account. This is what happens in the real world, and oh yes they can take money directly out of your paypal account even if is limited if you have a case against your account. |
| wired | 03-09-2015 04:46 PM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by jak
(Post 648287)
FO is nothing but a front to show that "they" on "your side" if the banks or financial institution do any misbehavior, they "act at the middle man".. yeah what BS.
I mean if the FO were so great what about the Banks over charging customers, when they go over by 1gbp, what about the libor scandal? What about the PPI scandal? What about the latest bank of England scandal with Crash and cash? And hey the SFO are involved.. wow.. you seriously think anything going to happen? Of course not! Because the BANKS control the government and lobby the governments aggressively, and it's just for theatrical show.
You explain that the FO made cases and results against paypal, yes they will but what is the amount paypal is holding? 100gbp? If the amount is higher =>5000gbp paypal will not allow that money to release, to you even if they complain to the FO. They will make any excuse to the FO to hold on to that money because they want that usury % fee's remember.. and sometimes even report you to the authorities and take the money OUT of your account if you have a criminal case against your paypal account. This is what happens in the real world, and oh yes they can take money directly out of your paypal account even if is limited if you have a case against your account. | Lots of conspiracy theory there. You may have an element of truth, but we are not discussing those topics here.
Paypal can of course take money from limited accounts to cover refunds, charge backs, thats in the user agreement, so not entirely sure on your point?
The FO helped me and friends get over in total 21K released extremely quickly. That was in the 'real world' as you put it.
So I am not sure you are experienced in what you are talking about rather than merely speculating. |
| RosieTosie | 03-09-2015 05:22 PM | Re: Paypal limited Conspiracy Theory wired!, what's going on in your brain if you think it's simply conspiracy theory?, you live in the UK therefore you know just as much as the rest of us that our government is currently made up of bankers who payrole no-one but themselves and their pals who are also from banking families, that's the way it is. Approach the Financial Ombudsmans Service as many times as you like, they will consider your case for months then simply say, they are sorry but they can do nothing especially if it concerns banks! And yes I do know what I am talking about with this having had first hand experience of how useless the FO really is.
So you and others got 21k back from paypal, certainly better than nothing, but in no way is it a measure of how much they will have swindled people out of. |
| rainmaker | 03-09-2015 05:28 PM | Re: Paypal limited Make multiple accounts and outsmart eBay and Paypal. |
| wired | 03-10-2015 06:26 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by RosieTosie
(Post 648782)
Conspiracy Theory wired!, what's going on in your brain if you think it's simply conspiracy theory?, you live in the UK therefore you know just as much as the rest of us that our government is currently made up of bankers who payrole no-one but themselves and their pals who are also from banking families, that's the way it is. Approach the Financial Ombudsmans Service as many times as you like, they will consider your case for months then simply say, they are sorry but they can do nothing especially if it concerns banks! And yes I do know what I am talking about with this having had first hand experience of how useless the FO really is.
So you and others got 21k back from paypal, certainly better than nothing, but in no way is it a measure of how much they will have swindled people out of. | I do believe I said 'you have an element of truth there', but this isnt the forum to discuss the government and what your opinions are on the system.
If you understand how to use the FO, then they will be helpful, as they where with me, and it took weeks, not months. Sounds you had a negative experience with them, sorry for that but mine and others where very successful.
Of course PayPal swindle millions out of people and their 'legal' tax evasion, I dont believe I made any comment to contrary? |
| lucas66 | 03-11-2015 09:40 AM | Re: Paypal limited On a different note,
I have a second business launching soon.
Completely separate business, separate legal entity in a different country, doing something different than the previous one.
Can I get a legitimate paypal account for that business without worrying about getting linked (and limited) to the previous one?
thanks for the help |
| YEbayY | 03-11-2015 11:33 AM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas66
(Post 649229)
On a different note,
I have a second business launching soon.
Completely separate business, separate legal entity in a different country, doing something different than the previous one.
Can I get a legitimate paypal account for that business without worrying about getting linked (and limited) to the previous one?
thanks for the help | If you use same details for the new paypal as the old one then yes you will get limited again buddy |
| Glasses | 03-11-2015 04:06 PM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by wired
(Post 643923)
if your account is legit like you said, you will see it can gets sorted in six weeks. | What if its not legit? Do FO make checks? Is telling them the same thing told to PP risking trouble with the Law?
BTW complaints against them do have an effect- Im pretty sure it costs PP £200 for every complaint against them regardless of the outcome, and if they get too many they get in more trouble, which costs them more money. Complaints against them are not good anyway - kind of like the ebay system when you think of it!!!
Why not do a SARs request just to see what happens - ask for blinking EVERYTHING (but you must specify). Ask for it in braille, and for every copy to be signed and stamped by their information compliance officer as a true copy of the original. If you spoke to them on the phone, you can even ask for those conversations to be transcribed! All that will cost you a tenner, but you can make them go back 5 years, from memory anyway.
(I say all that....I assume they have a UK office if FO have clout with them?) |
| lucas66 | 03-11-2015 11:46 PM | Re: Paypal limited A different business altogether in a different country.
Just my name would be the same.
You think it will still get limited? Quote:
Originally Posted by YEbayY
(Post 649256)
If you use same details for the new paypal as the old one then yes you will get limited again buddy | |
| YEbayY | 03-12-2015 01:36 PM | Re: Paypal limited Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas66
(Post 649419)
A different business altogether in a different country.
Just my name would be the same.
You think it will still get limited? | If the ONLY thing you kept the same i think you'd get away but dont take my word for it i'd ask someone more experienced like Bunneh
But make sure EVERYTHING else is different dude
Best of luck |
| lucas66 | 03-16-2015 01:42 AM | Re: Paypal limited Really?
I don't see any sense in that...
It's a completely different business - I'm not talking stealth here, just 2 completely separate, legitimate businesses.
thanks for the help | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:45 PM. | |
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