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Default Can PP reverse invoice payments wih no dispute on them?

Hey. I was wondering if PP could/would reverse an invoice payment, if neither party (sender or receiver) initiated a dispute on it? I have a stealth account that I want to withdraw all of my $ from, by sending it to a legit PP account. I could care less if the stealth account gets shut down over it, but I want to take out a big chunk of money (1k+) at once, and certainly don't want that $ locked up in a limitation on the stealth account. Are there any circumstances, under which paypal would reverse the invoice payment after it was made? Also, is there any way I should make up the invoice (goods vs. services, etc) that would make it even less likely to be reversed for any reason. Thanks for your insight!
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That's a tough question. There's no way to predict if you will get limited. If you decide to try it, you might send a letter with tracking and add the tracking nunber to your real paypal account.

It would probably be better and less likely for a limitation if you add a new bank account to your stealth paypal and slowly withdraw the money to your bank account.
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dont do it!!! i just tried this same exact thing last week. i moved $800 from a stealth account to my account. my account has never had any flags that i know of. they froze the funds within 30mins and limited both accounts within 2hrs. I did this all with different ip addys and windows users. now i have to post a tracking number and wont be able to get funds for 180 days since my ss# is already flagged in their system.
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Default Aaaaahh!!!

You guys killed me with that news...especially you snagga lol. I really really can't afford to lose these funds, but at the same time, I absolutely need them by friday (2 days).

What about using the paypal debit card? I also have one of those, that I just activated right now for this stealth account. It says that it has a daily withdrawal limit of $3000. Can I somehow use the card to withdraw all the money (about $1300) at once?

I normally would withdraw the funds slowly, but in this case, I'm really strapped for cash and I have a large bill due friday, that I absolutely can't miss and unfortunately have no other solid way to cover besides this entrapped cash lol.

I've never used a paypal debit card to withdraw more than $400 (the ATM limit). Exactly how do I use it to withdraw more in the same day?

EDIT: I just withdrew $150 of it, so now I'm only worried about $1150 lol (assuming the withdrawal goes smoothly...geez I'm so uptight about this now. I'll never wait until the last minute like this again EVER)

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Ebayhateluv, made a thread about the method she used a while back. She said she used her Paypal debit card to purchase Walmart money orders. I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it would work.

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That's at least 1 solid sounding idea so far. I honestly didn't even know that walmart did money orders. So far that sounds like my best course of action. I'll make another $150 withdrawal to my bank tomorrow and then head over there to get the remaining $1k.

Unless someone else has another idea =)

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Pp debit cards are only good for legement accounts, cant help people who use stelth Pp's Walmart money center will sale u a money order as well as cash there walmart money gram money orders for free
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I don't understand ^. I have a stealth account, with different name, phone #, etc, but with a PP debit card attached to it, because its address is near mine. Are you saying that I won't be able to use the walmart money order because my real info wont match the debit card I present as payment? Why else wouldn't the debit card work with a stealth account? Please fill me in, because for now, I'm planning on using this money order method in the next 2 days to withdraw my $. Thanks for the help!

Also, would this same technique work with postal money orders?...buying say $1300 in postal money orders at once with the PP debit? I've used my real debit card to purchase large postal money orders like that before, but never a PP debit card. If possible, I'd much rather use this technique with postal money orders as they're widely accepted, and I've read that walmart money orders are not always accepted.
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Default buying USPS MOs with PP debit WORKS!!!!

Well...I went to the USPS today and used my stealth account debit card to take out $1050 in money orders (one $500, and one $550)...I purchased them both together, for $1052.50 or so, and the sale went through flawlessly. I wish I hadn't done the PP bank withdrawal of $150 that I did last night, as I would've had that $ now as well.

As it stands, I fear that the account will soon be limited as the $1k+ POS purchase has basically liquidated the account (I also did an ATM withdrawal of $20 after the POS purchase to leave the account with only $14 in it). I attempted to cancel the bank withdrawal and then ATM withdraw that $150, but paypal no longer offered an option to cancel it. Hopefully it will go through and not get reversed.

If I make it through today without getting limited due to the large withdrawal I will consider myself blessed. As it stands I feel quite grateful to the members of this forum for giving me the info and ideas, that I needed to get my $ out when I needed it. Thanks all!
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i am suprised they didnt ask for id @ USPS. glad everything worked out
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I was also thinking about the USPS or Walmart asking for Id to purchase a money order that big. You got lucky!
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deeznuts please update us on the status of your pp account during the following days, thanks!

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Default Update...

well...my account IS now limited lol. However, it wasn't limited until almost 2 days after I made the $1050 POS purchase (I guess they didn't review my account until then?).

That delay in limitation worked out great for me, because it gave the initial $150 bank withdrawal that I had made prior to learning about the money order scenario a few more days to move away from paypal's reach (it is now showing up in my BOA account as "pending" and I expect it will clear in the next day or two). I had more or less assumed I would never see that $150 again as I expected the account to be limited immediately after the POS purchase, and that withdrawal request to be cancelled/reversed.

I think that it may be possible to use this method of money order withdrawal without being limited at all, if you leave a little $ behind in the account. After I did the $150 bank withdrawal, $1050 POS purchase withdrawal, and a $20 ATM withdrawal, I left my account with only around $10 in it, so the size of the withdrawals looked especially suspicious. I believe thats why I was eventually limited (my account has never had any disputes or other issues).

Either way, this will be my new primary method for withdrawals of larger $ amounts, and has thoroughly sold me on the paypal debit card. I was not really concerned at all about them asking for ID at the post office, as I routinely get $1k+ in money orders there for my rent payment, and have never been asked for ID (since they only allow cash or PIN# debits as payment, they feel no need to ask for ID).
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