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Default Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

Verified personal US stealth account. Acct created mid-Jan 2018. Verified status mid-Feb when bank account was added (CC was already added). Activity so far: a couple ebay purchases, a couple vendor purchases, one with linked bank account, others with credit card.

I will be withdrawing $1000-2000 from a site that has online poker, but PP allows deposits and cashouts. It's some loophole with the site being considered a sweepstakes site not a gambling site (it's a lot of legal mumbo jumbo that gets them around being a gambling site, anyway PP facilitates their transactions)

So the question(s) is:
-is this account safe to use for withdrawals from the site, then withdrawals to my bank acct
-What increments do you suggest for withdrawals from the poker site?
-How long should I let the money sit in the PP acct before withdrawal?
-What increments do you recommend for withdrawal to my bank?
-Should I convert to business either now at a later date, or will that have no effect on how my account is viewed?
-I might continue to use this site and continue to have money to withdraw, so is there a $ amount that I could hit that would trigger a limitation? By this I mean money coming from the poker site into my Paypal account.

The youth of the account worries me a little, of course. I'm going to sell an item on ebay soon just to give the account a little incoming activity rather than have it all being outgoing before I start cashing out from the poker site. (also I want to test to see the if the funds from the ebay sale - less than $20 - has a hold put on it)

Thanks a lot. You guys are the best.
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

Why not test it with a brand new PP account and go from there

Start small and work your way up
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Why not test it with a brand new PP account and go from there

Start small and work your way up
This is a new acct, I made it in Jan
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

I really have no idea. Paypal usually does not kill accounts for this type of stuff as long as they get a cut but I really dont know about this type of source.

Testing is going to be your best option.
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No matter whether site is listed as sweepstakes vs. gambling....could become an issue in PP eyes
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

Disregarding where the funds come from for now - What's the recommend tactic for cashing out from PP these days, in terms of frequency and amount? I'm going to let it sit in my PP account for at least a few days. Should I withdraw (from PP to bank) in amounts of less than $100 to avoid flagging?
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My experience has been they'll flag any account that's not got an SSN# attached. You can withdraw 200-300 a few times before they flag it then you're toast. Especially if all the money is coming into the account from sources such as eBay/other sites.
If you add the money from your bank account or whatever you can buy anything ya want but if all the money you have has been created as income you're on a short leash there is no fool proof method.
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But listen to the guys here that are long time members before you take my advice. They know more than me, I'm just going on experience.
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

I have a PayPal account since 2014, I have been selling on ebay recently, I am selling VeRO related software for very cheap price.
What I want ask is if I connect few ebay account to same paypal (I will use difrent payment emails) will it be an issue?
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

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My experience has been they'll flag any account that's not got an SSN# attached. You can withdraw 200-300 a few times before they flag it then you're toast. Especially if all the money is coming into the account from sources such as eBay/other sites.
If you add the money from your bank account or whatever you can buy anything ya want but if all the money you have has been created as income you're on a short leash there is no fool proof method.
Thanks for posting. This is just the kind of current info I need. I haven't used a stealth acct in a couple years.

This is where I thought having a business acct was a work around, where you could use an EIN in place of a SS# if you had an EIN. Like I said it's been a couple years and I can't remember all the details. But there's no reason why I couldn't "upgrade" this current stealth acct to a business acct and add an EIN if it seems like they are getting close to flagging me.
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

The money that I make on poker pulsa online, I extract with PayPal. I hadn't had any problems until now. But that's not even the main problem for casino players. There are casinos that don't allow you to extract the money if you win. They come up with different excuses, just like my Forex broker did. These assholes are not interested in the customer. I consider slots the easiest way of making money in a casino and it works for me. I wouldn't be surprised if even PayPal will not allow me to extract the money, considering how much extractions I make.
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Default Re: Safest (new) stealth acct withdrawal amounts?

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Verified personal US stealth account. Acct created mid-Jan 2018. Verified status mid-Feb when bank account was added (CC was already added). Activity so far: a couple ebay purchases, a couple vendor purchases, one with linked bank account, others with credit card.

I will be withdrawing $1000-2000 from a site that has online poker, but PP allows deposits and cashouts. It's some loophole with the site being considered a sweepstakes site not a gambling site (it's a lot of legal mumbo jumbo that gets them around being a gambling site, anyway PP facilitates their transactions)

So the question(s) is:
-is this account safe to use for withdrawals from the site, then withdrawals to my bank acct
-What increments do you suggest for withdrawals from the poker site?
-How long should I let the money sit in the PP acct before withdrawal?
-What increments do you recommend for withdrawal to my bank?
-Should I convert to business either now at a later date, or will that have no effect on how my account is viewed?
-I might continue to use this site and continue to have money to withdraw, so is there a $ amount that I could hit that would trigger a limitation? By this I mean money coming from the poker site into my Paypal account.

The youth of the account worries me a little, of course. I'm going to sell an item on ebay soon just to give the account a little incoming activity rather than have it all being outgoing before I start cashing out from the poker site. (also I want to test to see the if the funds from the ebay sale - less than $20 - has a hold put on it)

Thanks a lot. You guys are the best.
Did you buy the Ebay Stealth Book?

I bet a lot of your answers would be found there. Just a sneak peek and I hope I don't get in trouble for it but it basically says if you are running multiple Paypal accounts there is a limit of $17k a year. So if you rotate Paypal accts to stay below this limit you could keep them alive.

I have had this experience from Paypal accts in the past by using them with ebay and my own site. I was able to run them a while and some thousands of Dollars out of them before I couldn't go any further. But this was before I knew about this forum and eBay Stealth. I don't know how much I withdrawn. But it seems about right.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for posting. This is just the kind of current info I need. I haven't used a stealth acct in a couple years.

This is where I thought having a business acct was a work around, where you could use an EIN in place of a SS# if you had an EIN. Like I said it's been a couple years and I can't remember all the details. But there's no reason why I couldn't "upgrade" this current stealth acct to a business acct and add an EIN if it seems like they are getting close to flagging me.
Just be aware that when you create an EIN, the IRS will expect you to file on that every year for every EIN that you have. To me that's not an easy out and you will have a whole other set of problems if you are on the IRS' radar.

Don't forget to file every year because they can and probably will send you a bill for an arbitrary amount owed and then your troubles will reach a whole other level. I know this from personal experience.

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