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Hi everyone,

I have a few stealth accounts cannot log in. I have bank accounts linked to all of them.

I contacted Paypal today. The agent told me that my account is forever blocked and I cannot take back the money.

I have $6000 USD in total. So sad. Anyone has the same experience to resolve the problem?

Thanks so much!

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You need to provide a LOT more details in order to get help.

What were you selling? How old are the accounts?

Impossible to provide blanket advice - everything depends on details

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I sold some regular stuff. Account 10 months old, verified by bank account. No phone number be verified.

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very odd, I am having a similar issue not exactly the same though.....\

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Hi. I have the same issue. I cannot even contact them. The phone call automatically hangup. Did you solve your issue yet??

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Well on the accts blocked did you have a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SSN attached. If so you be done hun.

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Unfortunately yes. they do have ssn attached. How are you so sure they are done?

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Can I have some details please Kajunrook

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If the SSN is not yours they don't have to refund your money??? Also highly illegal in US

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But you said they are done? Did you have an issue like this before??

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NO I have not, but I have never ⊗⊗⊗⊗d a SSN, but have read on here that is a huge NONO and your money be a gone pecan.

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Yeah, your money is gone. What you did is fraud here and they'll refuse to return any funds to you since criminal activity was involved.

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Criminal? I sold some brand names stuffs that's all. There is no criminal activity at all.

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I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm sure you weren't fully aware what you were getting into.

Selling brand names is fine but using the identities of US citizens isn't ok because you're creating tax liabilities for whatever identity was used to make your account.

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Account got locked without SSN as well. I am still trying to figure out why. Could be my address used too many times or my PC.

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when people saw SSN they will all go harsh. It is not my intention to have ssn attached. Now the ones without ssn also got into this problem. Looks like paypal is trying to keep the money for ever

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Well, for one tell that agent to go **** themselves. PayPal doesn't have a legal right to permanently steal money from people. No matter what they say. Second, I'm in a similar situation only that isn't the exact response I got. But it still seems like they're making it as hard as possible to get my money. I will update if I get this resolved. Third, using stealth accounts is NOT fraud or illegal as some people have previously stated. It is a grey area of the law but is not illegal unless you use the alias to commit an actual crime. So you have not done anything illegal as far as I know. But I'll hopefully be back soon to provide you more assistance with this.

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Using a SSN that isn't yours is illegal and that's what people were commenting on.

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Did you using fa/ke SSN or real for spacific person? and did you hit the 200/20k to let them check your accounts?

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I'm back with an update. I got the money released on both of my accounts. Here's what I did (cutting a long story short): I filed a Better Business Bureau complaint and a CFPB complaint against PayPal on these accounts. They responded to each asking for a bunch of documents to verify I was the owner of the account. On the first account, I bought docs on secondeyesolution to meet their request and sent them to the email they provided. I then had to open another complaint because they never released the money even after sending the docs. After that, the money was released. But took a long, long time to finally get the issue resolved (about 2 months total messing around with this).

On the second account, they asked for "business registration information" to verify I was the owner of the account. Which would have been impossible to provide since the business name on the account was obviously ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I actually only upgraded it to a business account because a PayPal representative told me to, that's another story. So I opened another complaint with a very long, angry message (because I was legitimately angry) about how I don't own a business so how can I possibly provide this among other things. Money was released after this but again took a very long time.

Hope this helps.

Edit: Spelling and grammar errors.

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A lot of stealth accounts I've bought from people have SSNs on them already. I don't think the intent for using them is to steal someone's identity though. It's generally just a place filler when PayPal asks for it, they provide a real looking one but not one for a specific person. This wouldn't be illegal since you're not stealing someone else's SSN. Using a specific person's SSN for the purpose of ID theft is completely different. PayPal is not a bank or a government organization so providing them with false information is not illegal. Violating their terms of service is not the same as violating the law.

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May want to talk that theory over with a lawyer.... I think you will find that is still very illegal

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Law is probably different in the UK since from what I understand PayPal IS a registered bank in the UK. In the US, they're just a money transmitter service. I would be interested to hear a lawyer's take on this though.

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Using another person's details/identity such as their SSN is illegal and falls under identity theft. Period, end of story.

It doesn't matter if PayPal is a not a bank.

Aspkin forums does not condone this type of activity. If you have doubt about legality as it pertains to details in your account, best to seek proper legal advise.

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I'm glad you did successfully withdrawn your money.
I'm in the same situation as you and OP. They won't let me log in onto my account.
Maybe you can help me and others how to make a reasonable complaint over BBB and CFPB. I got $1600 stuck on PayPal since last June of this year.
Thanks for the share!

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I recommend you stop purchasing from whoever is selling you those accounts.

In this case it's illegal because it's tax fraud rather than identity theft. Maybe it's not illegal for you to give PP a false SSN, but it does become illegal when Paypal fills out a 1099K with the phake SSN you gave them and turns the 1099K over to the IRS, which is a government organization.

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I am confuse, op is "JENNY9091" but different users providing updates? OP never say they had misused a ssn on their account.

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happened with me once though hard to find the reason but i think they detected it a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account either they receive some complain etc

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How can you provide a SSN to PayPal , that belongs to nobody and it looks real

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Show me one instance where someone got arrested for using a stealth PayPal account. Since the point of stealth is the info is not real and doesn't belong to you. That's how you don't get linked to the previous account. I can probably find at least 100 incidents online of people getting arrested for using ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal accounts to scam people. But no incidents where people got arrested for simply using an account in a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name without doing anything else nefarious with it. But as previously noted, I'm not a lawyer and I do not offer legal advice. Only my personal opinion.

Either way, getting back to the point of this thread, none of this should give PayPal the right to steal your funds. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Simply put, this practice of holding someone's funds with the intent to permanently deprive them of those funds is THEFT.

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All I can tell you is some stealth accounts I've gotten do have SSN numbers with the info I get. How they get these numbers I don't know.

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^^^ this too. PayPal doesn't seem to care weather the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account has an SSN on it or not. They lock accounts with or without an SSN and make it incredibly hard to get the money back.

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If you're still having this issue, all I said in my initial complaints was I'm locked out of my account and not able to log in, the 1-800 support is completely incompetent and provides no assistance whatsoever, my funds have already been held for 180 days and I got an email saying my funds were eligible for withdrawal, allow me access to my account so I can withdraw these funds. Whatever response you get to that complaint would probably dictate what your follow up would be.

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As I know, using SSN or full info from other person in US and EU is a crime "theft identity", so people who do this can go to jail. Better to have a lot of stealth accs with completely ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info than few with stolen

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do you have skype or telegram?

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Hi!

I have the same thing as the OP here. My account is self created (EU) with a completely ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info. It got limited upon the exceeding 2,5k euros limit. Never sent them documents.

I can not login. What can you suggest to get my money back? Is there any service on this forum?

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Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

Check the marketplace and/or pm moderators/admins (purple names) for some guidance

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Most probably you won't able to get back the funds if you can't pass that verification.