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leenie 07-27-2018 03:34 AM

Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
I've been stealth 11 years now I tried to transfer money and for the first time i must state my date of birth and social security number. HELP!!!!!!

nyc 07-27-2018 04:19 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Could you provide a screenshot please.

leenie 07-27-2018 05:31 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
When I try to withdraw money from my paypal account it first states...To meet regulatory requirements, we need some more information before you can transfer money to your account. Then it has a next button and I can't do a screen shot or it will state my information but the important thing is it asks for my
Date of birth and
SSN (last 4 digits) Then says.....
The Patriot Act requires all financial institutions to ask for your Social Security number and confirm your identity to help prevent money laundering. I have been stealth for 11 years with no problems. I have a business account with an EIN number. WTF is going on?????

leenie 07-27-2018 11:48 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
The answer I found on here is enter last of ein number for ss. I dont remember putting a dob when I opened my paypal acct years ago so did they require that or just put whatever? Getting ready to do this but do not want to blow this so anybody, please help fast.

donkeykong2012 07-27-2018 11:55 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
I'm sure they will want the correct DOB for the account.

I believe there is a way to retrieve this somehow from the account if it is forgotten. I am sure I have read this on here before.

Hang fire for a bit, someone with more information is bound to come along.

StealthGirl 07-27-2018 01:52 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
This happened to me. I went back 24 hours later and was able to withdraw at a lower amount.

yankee 07-27-2018 02:06 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
All part of the April update. Huge multi page threads about it.

Without confirming identity and/or tax number, withdrawing funds only.

camouflage 07-27-2018 02:28 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Just happened to me also.

I tried to withdraw lower amount and it went through, but on the resolution center still limited and asked me to upload SSN picture and ID.

I dont know if this is a glitch or what

leenie 07-27-2018 03:39 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
When this happened I was just trying to withdraw $25 so the amount was low enough. Can someone please answer this. I have done hours of research on aspkin and haven't really found the answer. I have seen that you can put any 4 numbers for the last 4 ssn but that most put in the last 4 of the ein number?? Wouldn't that raise a flag having them both the same. Also, This is a business account. Does anyone remember having to put a date of birth in for a business account when they initially signed up? I don't think I did so do I just put any date of birth as well?

leenie 07-27-2018 03:46 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Yankee...Can you please show the thread link so I can find the answer.

StealthGirl 07-27-2018 06:28 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leenie872@aol.com (Post 933437)
When this happened I was just trying to withdraw $25 so the amount was low enough. Can someone please answer this. I have done hours of research on aspkin and haven't really found the answer. I have seen that you can put any 4 numbers for the last 4 ssn but that most put in the last 4 of the ein number?? Wouldn't that raise a flag having them both the same. Also, This is a business account. Does anyone remember having to put a date of birth in for a business account when they initially signed up? I don't think I did so do I just put any date of birth as well?


What exactly is your question?

When this has happened to me, I have waited and pulled the money out another day. Submitting the 4 numbers should be your last resort because it can possibly get your account limited since it won't match public databases. Your two best options right now are to wait or to call in if you happen to still have the same phone number on the account.

nickopedia 07-27-2018 06:50 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Identity is confirmed using third party databases and/or credit agencies, so the data must match a REAL person on file.

You can only w/d funds to a bank. This is part of the ToS update from April- there have been lots of threads about this.

rsot 07-27-2018 07:03 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leenie872@aol.com (Post 933320)
I've been stealth 11 years now I tried to transfer money and for the first time i must state my date of birth and social security number. HELP!!!!!!

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

Just welcoming you properly.

leenie 07-27-2018 07:41 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Nickopedia. I must be missing something because what I read in all the aspkin threads is for a business account you can put in any last four social numbers and any birthdate. I keep reading that all you can do is withdraw funds...from you too but that is the only thing I can't do. I can't withdraw funds unless I input this information.
Stealthgirl. When did they ask for your information and when did you stop seeing it. Did it just go away?

nickopedia 07-27-2018 08:00 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
So just to be clear you are trying to transfer the money to your BANK account not to another PayPal, correct?

Do you get this verification message no matter how much $ you try to transfer?

leenie 07-27-2018 08:11 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Yes, I am trying to transfer to my bank account which I have always been able to do for 11 years. I get the verification message no matter how much $ I try to transfer. I have a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name on paypal but a real bank account which was verified 11 years ago. Paypal has my EIN number when I opened a business account back 11 years ago. They want me to give a date of birth and last 4 of social. My real info would shut me down. What is my solution?

BigCJ 07-27-2018 11:09 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Add the last of the EIN in its place of SSN.

leenie 07-28-2018 12:30 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Do you know for a fact entering the last EIN in place of SSN will work. Also, what date of birth? I don't think you are required to put one in when I created the business account so any dob? Has anyone had success with this working 100%. I am so scared to try unless I know it will work 100%.

dealagreeproceed 07-28-2018 02:27 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leenie872@aol.com (Post 933524)
Do you know for a fact entering the last EIN in place of SSN will work. Also, what date of birth? I don't think you are required to put one in when I created the business account so any dob? Has anyone had success with this working 100%. I am so scared to try unless I know it will work 100%.

nothings 100 with PP ... u will slip up... just dont stay down :rolleyes:

yankee 07-28-2018 01:04 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
You are talking about the most recent paypal data update. It has been this way for years and years and years now.

Last four the the EIN.. I use my own birthdate. If you upgrade any paypal to business at any time for several years now, this is required.

It is well proven to work by countless members for years.

Kajunrook 07-28-2018 09:12 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
OK so something new is up. I have a six month account with about $3000 in sales, runs $4-500 a month. So for a year $5,000 since I opened in early March. Have purposely kept sales low so as not to provide a SSN as it was linked to banned paypal. So I just sold an item and logged on and they are asking for SSN. If I ignore and not sell over $8,000 for the year will the notification go away? If not I will have to open ANOTHER LLC and EIN

GreenBean 07-28-2018 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 933482)
Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

Just welcoming you properly.

Yeah, yeah.

If this was being done properly, the words would be in an Introduction thread,

But you totally disregard that to spam threads.

And yep, I know you missed me.

:deadhorse:

yankee 07-29-2018 07:50 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 933707)
OK so something new is up. I have a six month account with about $3000 in sales, runs $4-500 a month. So for a year $5,000 since I opened in early March. Have purposely kept sales low so as not to provide a SSN as it was linked to banned paypal. So I just sold an item and logged on and they are asking for SSN. If I ignore and not sell over $8,000 for the year will the notification go away? If not I will have to open ANOTHER LLC and EIN

This is not new. If you collected that amount of money late in the year, say November and December, maybe you would not have gotten it. In all previous years the request resets sometime in January. You have multiple requests before it stops letting you collect more funds.

camouflage 07-31-2018 06:29 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 933658)
You are talking about the most recent paypal data update. It has been this way for years and years and years now.

Last four the the EIN.. I use my own birthdate. If you upgrade any paypal to business at any time for several years now, this is required.

It is well proven to work by countless members for years.

Yankee, this is my case :

Account is about 3 years, start from PP personal account and upgrade to Business with EIN, but they still asked for SSN (i put last 4 digit EIN) + DOB.

Nothing happened until 2 days ago when i tried to withdraw (regular amount, nothing suspicious) - they asked me to RE-confirm my last 4 digit SSN + DOB, i put my last 4 last EIN + DOB and i got limited BUT i still can withdraw with lower amount.

I have a question, i plan to abandon this account but i have a feeling this account somehow linked to another account. What do you think Paypal will do if i totally abandon to this acc?

Thank You

kelly872 08-01-2018 03:36 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Camouflage....how much were you able to withdraw. This happened to me too but I haven't entered the last four and dob in yet because I don't want to get limited. Right now I am able to withdraw $199 or less a day...I'm assuming for 90 days. How much are you able to withdraw?

kelly872 08-01-2018 03:54 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Also, Camouflage.....are you still able to receive payments from ebay buyers? Can you buy anything from anybody? Are you still able to print postage through ebay? Can you send money to anyone. What are your total limitations? I want to keep my Paypal and ebay account as it would take to much time to start over and can live with just a limitation of only getting $199 or less out every day but I need all the other functions to work. PLEASE someone answer what all this limitation entails.

SaiJin 08-01-2018 04:13 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Wait so you didn't bother to complete the creation of your account at all?
I meant you didn't follow all the steps in the ebay stealth?

Because them asking for these info is pretty standard.

StealthGirl 08-01-2018 04:29 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 934584)
Wait so you didn't bother to complete the creation of your account at all?
I meant you didn't follow all the steps in the ebay stealth?

Because them asking for these info is pretty standard.

This is happening AFTER the account creation. It doesn't matter if someone created an account and inputted a correct EIN/random numbers for social security

It happened to me on two accounts where the accounts where completed as recommended. I added a bank account and was able to withdraw just fine for months. On two separate days, two of my accounts asked me for this info as I was attempting to withdraw money. Instead of going to the final screen where one confirms the total amount and bank account that the money is going to, it took me to a screen where it asked for last four of social, address, and birthday.


What I believe is that paypal is asking for this information because they want to run your information through a public database. Since it won't match, people who are entering random numbers will be limited. The account is not a total waste because the April update did state that if paypal cannot verify who you are, you may only be able to withdraw funds from the account. Based on my experience, this limitation does not prevent you from making purchases or payments using a credit or debit card. You just can't use your paypal balance to pay for anything

StealthGirl 08-01-2018 04:32 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly872 (Post 934577)
Also, Camouflage.....are you still able to receive payments from ebay buyers? Can you buy anything from anybody? Are you still able to print postage through ebay? Can you send money to anyone. What are your total limitations? I want to keep my Paypal and ebay account as it would take to much time to start over and can live with just a limitation of only getting $199 or less out every day but I need all the other functions to work. PLEASE someone answer what all this limitation entails.

You can easily find out if you can use your paypal balance to make purchases or send money. Go through the purchasing process wherever you want. At checkout, if you can use your paypal balance, it will give you the option of paying with that. if it doesn't give you that option then your limitation includes the inability to use your paypal funds for anything other than withdrawing. Based on my experience, you can still pay for stuff using a debit or credit card, or even a prepaid gift card.

kelly872 08-01-2018 05:32 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
I haven't entered the last four of the social or date of birth but can still receive payments from ebayers, pay for postage via ebay, send money for $200 or more to anyone and pay for goods and services using my balance but if I try to withdraw over $200 or try to withdraw more than once a day I get the message to fill in the info. I am trying to avoid getting that message again. I would think I am already limited since I can't withdraw more than $200 but don't know what will happen once I "must" fill in the info they want and ultimately get limited.

kelly872 08-01-2018 05:41 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Another thing, it doesn't show anywhere that I am limited yet...not on resolution, or account limits, nor any notifications nor any emails. But I must be limited somehow since I can't withdraw more than $200 and can't withdraw more than once a day. Those are the only two limitations I have so far. Very curious to know what will happen with all other functions once I have to input the info and get limited. Will I still be able to ebay. Still be able to receive payments and pay for postage through paypal. I just want those two functions. I can live without sending money or paying for things. Anybody know the full limitations after limitation?

StealthGirl 08-01-2018 05:47 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly872 (Post 934601)
I haven't entered the last four of the social or date of birth but can still receive payments from ebayers, pay for postage via ebay, send money for $200 or more to anyone and pay for goods and services using my balance but if I try to withdraw over $200 or try to withdraw more than once a day I get the message to fill in the info. I am trying to avoid getting that message again. I would think I am already limited since I can't withdraw more than $200 but don't know what will happen once I "must" fill in the info they want and ultimately get limited.

I would stick to withdraws for less than $200 and only once a day. If you've been getting this message anytime you try more than that then I'd avoid trying to do that for the next month or so. I would assume that paypal is asking for this information because the system is looking at your patterns and assuming that you will eventually hit $20k this year. This prompt is too new for anyone to really know what it means.

StealthGirl 08-01-2018 05:53 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly872 (Post 934602)
Another thing, it doesn't show anywhere that I am limited yet...not on resolution, or account limits, nor any notifications nor any emails. But I must be limited somehow since I can't withdraw more than $200 and can't withdraw more than once a day. Those are the only two limitations I have so far. Very curious to know what will happen with all other functions once I have to input the info and get limited. Will I still be able to ebay. Still be able to receive payments and pay for postage through paypal. I just want those two functions. I can live without sending money or paying for things. Anybody know the full limitations after limitation?

If you enter random numbers then you will be limited right away. Paypal runs the information that you provide to them through a public database the moment you hit enter.

The limitation may or may not allow you to pay for things using you balance. I have seen both. The new update did state that your account MAY be prevented from making purchases with your balance if they cannot verify who you are. You would still be able to pay for things with a debt,credit, or visa/mc gift card. From what i've seen, purchases using a bank account aren't allowed with these limitations.

for what it's worth, if you were to call in right now, the rep would not be able to see any limitation, or at least that's what they say. They'd tell you that their security system can prevent accounts from temporarily being able to perform certain functions. They'd probably also make an attempt at verifying your info over the phone, so it's best just to leave it alone if the account is still allowing you to pay for items using the balance, receive payments and withdraw money

rsot 08-01-2018 08:22 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly872 (Post 934602)
Another thing, it doesn't show anywhere that I am limited yet...not on resolution, or account limits, nor any notifications nor any emails. But I must be limited somehow since I can't withdraw more than $200 and can't withdraw more than once a day. Those are the only two limitations I have so far. Very curious to know what will happen with all other functions once I have to input the info and get limited. Will I still be able to ebay. Still be able to receive payments and pay for postage through paypal. I just want those two functions. I can live without sending money or paying for things. Anybody know the full limitations after limitation?

Welcome to the forum kelly872.

Can you clarify if your PP has been verified with bank account and/or confirmed with credit card?

kelly872 08-01-2018 10:02 PM

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My business stealth paypal account which started out business not upgraded, was verified many many years ago on paypal with a real bank account and vanilla credit card. I've been doing business as usual for over a decade and now paypal is asking for last four of my SSN and DOB. The message basically stated that they are doing it to prevent fraud and in order to keep withdrawing I need to give them the info...which will fail the databases.

camouflage 08-03-2018 05:39 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly872 (Post 934577)
Also, Camouflage.....are you still able to receive payments from ebay buyers? Can you buy anything from anybody? Are you still able to print postage through ebay? Can you send money to anyone. What are your total limitations? I want to keep my Paypal and ebay account as it would take to much time to start over and can live with just a limitation of only getting $199 or less out every day but I need all the other functions to work. PLEASE someone answer what all this limitation entails.

If i remember correctly its about $600++.
Yes i still able received payments from my buyer, but i just stop to sell with that account. No i dont try any of those (sending money, buy anything) i just withdraw 2 times without problem but the limitation is still there. And i dont have a plan to submit what they asked.

kelly872 08-03-2018 06:10 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Are you saying that your limitation is $600 a month?

yankee 08-03-2018 06:23 AM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by camouflage (Post 934337)
Yankee, this is my case :

Account is about 3 years, start from PP personal account and upgrade to Business with EIN, but they still asked for SSN (i put last 4 digit EIN) + DOB.

Nothing happened until 2 days ago when i tried to withdraw (regular amount, nothing suspicious) - they asked me to RE-confirm my last 4 digit SSN + DOB, i put my last 4 last EIN + DOB and i got limited BUT i still can withdraw with lower amount.

I have a question, i plan to abandon this account but i have a feeling this account somehow linked to another account. What do you think Paypal will do if i totally abandon to this acc?

Thank You

every single one of mt accounts has had the request again this year that had an EIN. My two accounts with my SS had the request. My significant other had the request on her EIN account.

kelly872 08-03-2018 03:31 PM

Re: Stealth 11 years now PP wants SS
 
I have spent over a week trying to find this answer and Camouflage, you are the only one who I think can help me. After they asked for your last social and dob and it caused your limitation on your business account then what happened? Did they just limit you and what are your limitations? I don't understand what you mean by $600++. Also, are they asking for you to send even more proof. Thank you.


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