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ItzakJano | 01-01-2019 09:14 AM | BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Hey there.
I recently purchased 2 vccs in order to verify 2 of my Paypal accounts.
After adding 1 vcc to each, it was about 15 min untill i recieved this message: https://www.screencast.com/t/EtPS4Q8gQ
I contacted back the seller of the Vccs.
Just to hear from him : "Paypal is crazy", "We see in new year".
Contacted again, and been told "How can i know that paypal will suspend"
Luckily, 1 of my account is pretty new, and the other one didnt have much inside it.
Just imagining what would have happened if i would connect these VCCs to any of my old paypals!
*Currently not going to post the seller name, because i hope it was 1 time thing.
Beware! |
lally106 | 01-01-2019 09:30 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble What message did paypal give you ? you missed it. |
ItzakJano | 01-01-2019 09:36 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble |
parsierngue | 01-01-2019 09:51 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble That's the exact same limitation that you get if you link an Entropay card to a PayPal. It seems that PayPal had a purge of cards some time last month and added a load of them to a blacklist, as they worked just fine before that. |
Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble You bought the VCC here? |
just_smile | 01-01-2019 10:35 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble It's happening a lot. Something has changed within paypals security features in the last week.
I'm pretty sure if the card is non avs the account is instantly limited. |
Ebayorbust | 01-01-2019 10:40 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
*Currently not going to post the seller name, because i hope it was 1 time thing.
Beware!
| It's not a "one time thing" and the seller didnt do anything wrong.
As others have said, Paypal are starting to clamp down on certain types of card. |
parsierngue | 01-01-2019 11:11 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by just_smile
(Post 967877)
It's happening a lot. Something has changed within paypals security features in the last week.
I'm pretty sure if the card is non avs the account is instantly limited. | Payoneer's card is 100% non-AVS and doesn't cause the account to get limited. |
just_smile | 01-01-2019 11:14 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by parsierngue
(Post 967888)
Payoneer's card is 100% non-AVS and doesn't cause the account to get limited. | Have you added one within the last 7 days? |
parsierngue | 01-01-2019 11:18 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Yesterday. |
ItzakJano | 01-01-2019 11:23 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 967872)
You bought the VCC here? | Yeah
Verified seller by Aspkin.
Sent an message to Aspkin letting them know. |
ItzakJano | 01-01-2019 11:24 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 967878)
It's not a "one time thing" and the seller didnt do anything wrong.
As others have said, Paypal are starting to clamp down on certain types of card. | Well, that's the reason i didnt mention his username, not to harm his business anyway, hoping he is warning other customers. |
just_smile | 01-01-2019 11:25 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by ItzakJano
(Post 967891)
Yeah
Verified seller by Aspkin.
Sent an message to Aspkin letting them know. | It's not the sellers fault, paypal have made this change within the last 7 days. Your report is isnt the first and it won't be the last. Before that the sellers cards probably worked fine 99% of the time. |
Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Every year at this time I wonder what surprises Ebay and Paypal will launch in the new year |
just_smile | 01-01-2019 11:26 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by parsierngue
(Post 967890)
Yesterday. | That's interesting. Keep an eye on it. I've not used payoneer cards for paypal so won't know if they're avs or not. |
parsierngue | 01-01-2019 11:46 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble It's definitely not, as I have used it with PayPals registered in a completely different country to the card.
I have some bank issued VCCs that are also not AVS, and they don't cause limitations either. |
xenix | 01-01-2019 11:52 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble I'm in this business for more then 10 years so speaking from my experience from time to time Paypal puts cards in blacklist ,every time people come up with new set of cards,based on what limitation they come up with good psd docs this is how sellers who sell here for many years survived .
We dont know who is the seller still its not seller's fault as Paypal is 3rd party and they ban cards so its not upto the seller |
slokor | 01-01-2019 12:20 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble It is more than likely due to the card being a Vietnamese one - or another non US based card.
What was the BIN number for the card you used? Im referring to the 6 first digits of the VCC - those are used as an identifier that can tell you what bank issued the card and in what country - and of course paypal has access to this info as well.
The first thing I always ask of a VCC seller is what the BIN number is. If the card is non US based I wont even think of touching it.
You can use the following site to check the BIN of any card or VCC you are considering using: https://www.exactbins.com/bin-lookup |
donkeykong2012 | 01-01-2019 12:22 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Adding an Entropay Card to an established Paypal Account is not a problem.
I do this a lot with no issues.
The issue is with new or nearly new Paypal Accounts.
Certain VCC's cause problems when added to these accounts.
It could be the time of year, a glitch, a bad batch of VCC's, the BIN, or Paypal tightening up. |
parsierngue | 01-01-2019 12:29 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Don't try it unless you're OK with 100% losing an account.
It had always worked fine for me too until I tried it late last month. It's simply been added to a blacklist, with a ton of other cards. |
donkeykong2012 | 01-01-2019 12:37 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by parsierngue
(Post 967910)
Don't try it unless you're OK with 100% losing an account.
It had always worked fine for me too until I tried it late last month. It's simply been added to a blacklist, with a ton of other cards. | If it was on a Blacklist, Paypal would prevent you from adding the card full stop.
The limitation is triggered when when enough Red Flags are raised. Usually on new Paypal Accounts.
I have added Entropay to numerous established accounts in December with no issues at all. |
parsierngue | 01-01-2019 12:41 PM | When exactly was it that you added it, last month? It worked for me earlier in the month, then I didn't make any other accounts for about 2 weeks, and at that point it would always cause a limitation when added to accounts.To me that indicates that PayPal definitely changed something.
Also, everybody here knows how sinister PayPal is; it's just like them to let something go through and then punish you for it after. |
Ebayorbust | 01-01-2019 01:11 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by ItzakJano
(Post 967891)
Yeah
Verified seller by Aspkin.
Sent an message to Aspkin letting them know. | Why??
You're making out like you've been scammed or something, lol. |
ItzakJano | 01-01-2019 02:40 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 967919)
Why??
You're making out like you've been scammed or something, lol. | Because people should be aware to the option of taking this risk.
There is no note on the sale page mentioning that there is a risk of getting your paypal screwed up. |
Ebayorbust | 01-01-2019 02:53 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Then discuss your complaint with the seller directly. Moderators and aspkin are busy people and will only get involved when disputes / issues cannot be resolved. |
ItzakJano | 01-01-2019 03:01 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Can you even read?
I have discussed with him, Didnt even get an option of refund.
Once the 2nd message on the Selling post is "VERIFIED", you get the feeling Aspking is backing up the seller.
But yea, protect the poor seller ,
damn |
Ebayorbust | 01-01-2019 03:06 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble I'm not protecting anyone. Get a grip on yourself. This a recent Paypal security measure which couldnt have been forseen. |
epimetheus039 | 01-01-2019 03:15 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble To add on more value to this topic. I have had accounts recently being limited for exact same reason even with no cards ever attached, so I am 100% certain it has nothing to do with the card.
They are just changing something internally
And to fix this docs had to be provided and had to speak to the rep to remove "credit card" request |
BigCJ | 01-01-2019 04:12 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble I just purchased vccs and a few that I were using were outright blocked.
There seems to be more headaches coming around on paypals part.
I didnt purchase them from the forum though so I doubt it was just the sellers vcc alone. |
slokor | 01-01-2019 05:15 PM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Yet again I ask - post the BIN numbers for these VCCs and share with the community which ones are no longer good for use with paypal and are causing issues. |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 04:48 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 967919)
Why??
You're making out like you've been scammed or something, lol. | That message is caused by entro-pays, which have even for a while been advised not best for use on here. So why is a verified seller allowed to sell them, Surely he should be expecting a high quality card from a verified seller. |
just_smile | 01-02-2019 04:50 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by lally106
(Post 968085)
That message is caused by entro-pays, which have even for a while been advised not best for use on here. So why is a verified seller allowed to sell them, Surely he should be expecting a high quality card from a verified seller. | Its not just Entropay. Its multiple cards across multiple countries.
Its only just started happening, so the seller is probably unaware. |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 04:54 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 967944)
I'm not protecting anyone. Get a grip on yourself. This a recent Paypal security measure which couldnt have been forseen. | Well i mean there is a Verifed seller profiting selling dog **** entro pays to people under the guise of the forums. Which is ****ty. |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 04:56 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by just_smile
(Post 968086)
Its not just Entropay. Its multiple cards across multiple countries.
Its only just started happening, so the seller is probably unaware. | Yeah but entropay has been hit and miss for a while now, so i even avoided using them myself. Even though i could easily generate them.
I dont see how a verified seller, selling something that has been known to be hit and miss for a while is ok ? |
Ebayorbust | 01-02-2019 05:03 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by lally106
(Post 968085)
That message is caused by entro-pays, which have even for a while been advised not best for use on here. So why is a verified seller allowed to sell them, Surely he should be expecting a high quality card from a verified seller. | Quote:
Well i mean there is a Verifed seller profiting selling dog **** entro pays to people under the guise of the forums. Which is ****ty.
| Where does it state the card was Entropay???? |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 05:12 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 968090)
Where does it state the card was Entropay???? | Because it's this seller - https://www.aspkin.com/forums/accoun...-delivery.html
who i bought back from a while ago ( Maybe 6 moths ) and he sold me some entropay, which i didnt use.
Maybe two weeks ago i had VCC supply issue, remember he was selling entro's thought maybe their working ok, tried setting up two stealths with my entro's got the same error instantly on both as OP https://www.screencast.com/t/EtPS4Q8gQ
Seller also looks to be still selling and not closed or edited thread in same time period or after buyers complaint.
FYI if i sold something to someone and it didnt work even due to un forseen circumstances i would refund that buyer, especially i generated those things for free. Scummy seller. |
Ebayorbust | 01-02-2019 05:15 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by lally106
(Post 968093)
Because it's this seller - https://www.aspkin.com/forums/accoun...-delivery.html
who i bought back from a while ago ( Maybe 6 moths ) and he sold me some entropay, which i didnt use.
Maybe two weeks ago i had VCC supply issue, remember he was selling entro's thought maybe their working ok, tried setting up two stealths with my entro's got the same error instantly on both as OP https://www.screencast.com/t/EtPS4Q8gQ
Seller also looks to be still selling and not closed or edited thread in same time period or after buyers complaint.
FYI if i sold something to someone and it didnt work even due to un forseen circumstances i would refund that buyer, especially i generated those things for free. Scummy seller. |
He sells a variety of different cards as stated on his thread so once again you don't know for certain that Entropay was used in this case.
The issue is caused by a load of different cards and is not just specific to Entropay. |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 05:17 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by ItzakJano
(Post 967829)
Hey there.
I recently purchased 2 vccs in order to verify 2 of my Paypal accounts.
After adding 1 vcc to each, it was about 15 min untill i recieved this message: https://www.screencast.com/t/EtPS4Q8gQ
I contacted back the seller of the Vccs.
Just to hear from him : "Paypal is crazy", "We see in new year".
Contacted again, and been told "How can i know that paypal will suspend"
Luckily, 1 of my account is pretty new, and the other one didnt have much inside it.
Just imagining what would have happened if i would connect these VCCs to any of my old paypals!
*Currently not going to post the seller name, because i hope it was 1 time thing.
Beware! | Dude post the bin first 6 digits for the cards u bought ? |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 05:19 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 968095)
He sells a variety of different cards as stated on his thread so once again you don't know for certain that Entropay was used in this case.
The issue is caused by a load of different cards and is not just specific to Entropay. | Well i asked him at the time what ever cards he had and the bins, USA/EU/UK were all bins which all matched entro-pays bins posted on here.
He wasnt able to provide me any options for cards with bins that didnt match entropay.
This entro issue is very recent and matches the timescale OP faced. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots.
Whatever put your tin foil hat back on. |
lally106 | 01-02-2019 05:24 AM | Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 967919)
Why??
You're making out like you've been scammed or something, lol. | Okay so u bought one of the samsung phones which exploided, ( Unforseen circumstance, yes ) and they refused to replace or refund. How would you feel ? Not scammed obv. | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 PM. | |
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