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Default BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

Hey there.
I recently purchased 2 vccs in order to verify 2 of my Paypal accounts.
After adding 1 vcc to each, it was about 15 min untill i recieved this message:
https://www.screencast.com/t/EtPS4Q8gQ

I contacted back the seller of the Vccs.
Just to hear from him : "Paypal is crazy", "We see in new year".
Contacted again, and been told "How can i know that paypal will suspend"

Luckily, 1 of my account is pretty new, and the other one didnt have much inside it.

Just imagining what would have happened if i would connect these VCCs to any of my old paypals!

*Currently not going to post the seller name, because i hope it was 1 time thing.
Beware!

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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

What message did paypal give you ? you missed it.
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

That's the exact same limitation that you get if you link an Entropay card to a PayPal. It seems that PayPal had a purge of cards some time last month and added a load of them to a blacklist, as they worked just fine before that.
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

You bought the VCC here?
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

It's happening a lot. Something has changed within paypals security features in the last week.

I'm pretty sure if the card is non avs the account is instantly limited.
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

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*Currently not going to post the seller name, because i hope it was 1 time thing.
Beware!
It's not a "one time thing" and the seller didnt do anything wrong.

As others have said, Paypal are starting to clamp down on certain types of card.
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

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It's happening a lot. Something has changed within paypals security features in the last week.

I'm pretty sure if the card is non avs the account is instantly limited.
Payoneer's card is 100% non-AVS and doesn't cause the account to get limited.
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Payoneer's card is 100% non-AVS and doesn't cause the account to get limited.
Have you added one within the last 7 days?
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

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You bought the VCC here?
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Verified seller by Aspkin.
Sent an message to Aspkin letting them know.
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It's not a "one time thing" and the seller didnt do anything wrong.

As others have said, Paypal are starting to clamp down on certain types of card.
Well, that's the reason i didnt mention his username, not to harm his business anyway, hoping he is warning other customers.
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Yeah
Verified seller by Aspkin.
Sent an message to Aspkin letting them know.
It's not the sellers fault, paypal have made this change within the last 7 days. Your report is isnt the first and it won't be the last. Before that the sellers cards probably worked fine 99% of the time.
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

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Yesterday.
That's interesting. Keep an eye on it. I've not used payoneer cards for paypal so won't know if they're avs or not.
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

It's definitely not, as I have used it with PayPals registered in a completely different country to the card.

I have some bank issued VCCs that are also not AVS, and they don't cause limitations either.
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I'm in this business for more then 10 years so speaking from my experience from time to time Paypal puts cards in blacklist ,every time people come up with new set of cards,based on what limitation they come up with good psd docs this is how sellers who sell here for many years survived .
We dont know who is the seller still its not seller's fault as Paypal is 3rd party and they ban cards so its not upto the seller
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Default Re: BeWare!!! Paypal VCC getting into trouble

It is more than likely due to the card being a Vietnamese one - or another non US based card.
What was the BIN number for the card you used? Im referring to the 6 first digits of the VCC - those are used as an identifier that can tell you what bank issued the card and in what country - and of course paypal has access to this info as well.
The first thing I always ask of a VCC seller is what the BIN number is. If the card is non US based I wont even think of touching it.
You can use the following site to check the BIN of any card or VCC you are considering using:
https://www.exactbins.com/bin-lookup
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Adding an Entropay Card to an established Paypal Account is not a problem.

I do this a lot with no issues.

The issue is with new or nearly new Paypal Accounts.

Certain VCC's cause problems when added to these accounts.

It could be the time of year, a glitch, a bad batch of VCC's, the BIN, or Paypal tightening up.
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Don't try it unless you're OK with 100% losing an account.

It had always worked fine for me too until I tried it late last month. It's simply been added to a blacklist, with a ton of other cards.
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Don't try it unless you're OK with 100% losing an account.

It had always worked fine for me too until I tried it late last month. It's simply been added to a blacklist, with a ton of other cards.
If it was on a Blacklist, Paypal would prevent you from adding the card full stop.

The limitation is triggered when when enough Red Flags are raised. Usually on new Paypal Accounts.

I have added Entropay to numerous established accounts in December with no issues at all.
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When exactly was it that you added it, last month? It worked for me earlier in the month, then I didn't make any other accounts for about 2 weeks, and at that point it would always cause a limitation when added to accounts.To me that indicates that PayPal definitely changed something.

Also, everybody here knows how sinister PayPal is; it's just like them to let something go through and then punish you for it after.

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