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| EarnLikePro | 03-23-2019 08:40 PM |
NO more new stealth US PayPal
It was going fine with US paypal for me. But i tried to create a new paypal few days ago. It instantly asked for SSN or document to verify.
Even after the account creation first time login i can see the document request or social security number request.
Is there anyway i can pass that?
What other good option for Stealth paypal?
Please genius people help me :) |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
If you post your creation method, we can surely help you :) |
| EarnLikePro | 03-23-2019 08:53 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEI
(Post 988370)
If you post your creation method, we can surely help you :)
| I used VPS to create account like i was creating old times. New VPS and all real info from real estate websites. |
| yankee | 03-23-2019 09:34 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
if you add a USA bank account, you should still be able to withdraw to a bank but not use the balance for anything else and yes this is the new Paypal of March 31st 2019. |
| EarnLikePro | 03-23-2019 09:42 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 988383)
if you add a USA bank account, you should still be able to withdraw to a bank but not use the balance for anything else and yes this is the new Paypal of March 31st 2019.
| WHich alternative is better then? Can u suggest? UK or CA ones?? In terms of restrictions |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by EarnLikePro
(Post 988386)
WHich alternative is better then? Can u suggest? UK or CA ones?? In terms of restrictions
| Which ones you think you can get documentation for when/if you get limited? |
| agent006140 | 03-24-2019 07:38 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 988383)
if you add a USA bank account, you should still be able to withdraw to a bank but not use the balance for anything else and yes this is the new Paypal of March 31st 2019.
| why does Paypal want to do that? |
| james_112233 | 03-24-2019 07:51 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 988454)
why does Paypal want to do that?
| The UK paypal requires documents when you hit the EU limit of £1600-1800 in sales. If nothing else triggers a manual review before then.
Either way, all of them will eventually require documents. |
| agent006140 | 03-24-2019 08:46 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
There is this Irish lady who travels to London frequently ,she has a UK bank account and a PO box and uses UK paypal account to collect payment for what she sold and transferred the proceeds to her UK bank account .
One day Paypal wants to see some docs,and one of them is her driver license,but she does not have a UK driver license,she has Irish driver license,and Paypal restricted her account. |
| phaz0rz | 03-24-2019 09:33 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 988454)
why does Paypal want to do that?
| They don't want to but there's too much international money laundering going on, so they're having to do this. The age of cryptocurrency probably accelerated PP's timeline for doing this by like 5 years. They've probably known all along they would be forced to start actually verifying users one day, but I doubt it's something they've been looking forward to because it means a lot of lost revenue for them. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 988463)
There is this Irish lady who travels to London frequently ,she has a UK bank account and a PO box and uses UK paypal account to collect payment for what she sold and transferred the proceeds to her UK bank account .
One day Paypal wants to see some docs,and one of them is her driver license,but she does not have a UK driver license,she has Irish driver license,and Paypal restricted her account.
| Yeah, things like that can happen. |
| parsierngue | 03-24-2019 09:38 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
That's just weird. PayPal should accept a photo ID from any country.
I would think that the only thing specific to a certain country that PayPal would ask for is the proof of address. |
| phaz0rz | 03-24-2019 10:16 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
If the person submitted an Irish ID with an Irish address printed on it, attempting to prove their residency in GB, then that was probably the problem. |
| agent006140 | 03-24-2019 10:42 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988475)
If the person submitted an Irish ID with an Irish address printed on it, attempting to prove their residency in GB, then that was probably the problem.
| she could be hiding something too,from the Irish goverment?
keeping money she earned from her goverment,in a foreign bank account.
Come to think of it,in our tax return,if we have fund in a foreign bank ,we have to disclose it,IRS is very strict on it.
They have caught many who did not disclose large amount parked in foreign banks! |
| ddm50 | 03-24-2019 03:41 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 988487)
she could be hiding something too,from the Irish goverment?
keeping money she earned from her goverment,in a foreign bank account.
Come to think of it,in our tax return,if we have fund in a foreign bank ,we have to disclose it,IRS is very strict on it.
They have caught many who did not disclose large amount parked in foreign banks!
| What are you on about? Lol.... |
| ddm50 | 03-24-2019 03:53 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEI
(Post 988370)
If you post your creation method, we can surely help you :)
| It doesn't matter lol, US accs now require SSN so unless you have your own SSN or you wanna commit identity theft I don't see how are you gonna help him. |
| EarnLikePro | 03-24-2019 10:29 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Canadian PayPal require SSN or driving license too? Even to start using PayPal? |
| agent006140 | 03-25-2019 09:38 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddm50
(Post 988574)
It doesn't matter lol, US accs now require SSN so unless you have your own SSN or you wanna commit identity theft I don't see how are you gonna help him.
| may be someone will sell him a real SSN?
There are foreign nationals ,permanent residents and naturalised citizens who have returned to their own countries and they have SS number.
but if Paypal finds out this person is no longer in this country,does it matter?
as for utilities bill,some are renters or adult children living with their parents and they dont have utilities bill in their name? |
| phaz0rz | 03-25-2019 09:40 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Using a SSN that doesn't belong to you, in any shape or form regardless of if you bought it, would be illegal and a bad idea. How could you file taxes for this SSN you purchased? You couldn't.
About the utilities part there have been countless instances showing that Paypal will not accept that kind of excuse. |
| agent006140 | 03-25-2019 10:57 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
one year my accountant was about to file income tax return of his client,a doctor and found out the return has already been filed and a small refund has been issued?
It turns out a clerk who has once worked in the doctor office has filed for his boss and received a small refund,dont ask me how he cashed the IRS refund check or the electronic payment?
reminds me of my neighbor who received a letter from bank asking me to sign up for some service and get a free radio just for signing up.
he got the radio and I got the bill! |
| agent006140 | 03-25-2019 11:03 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988743)
Using a SSN that doesn't belong to you, in any shape or form regardless of if you bought it, would be illegal and a bad idea. How could you file taxes for this SSN you purchased? You couldn't.
About the utilities part there have been countless instances showing that Paypal will not accept that kind of excuse.
| if you know the owner of the SSN you borrowed either have left the country or lie dormant (not death,but earn no taxable income,no savings account in his name etc) and your paypal account with his SSN would not exceed 200 transactions and $20k,get no 1099K from Paypal,then you may not have t o file income tax return for him.
or his income is so small,there is no need to file. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 11:12 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988743)
About the utilities part there have been countless instances showing that Paypal will not accept that kind of excuse.
| Fun fact, I have been living in this place for 20.5 years and the electric bill is not in my my name.
It happens! |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 11:17 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
I don't have a wife.
It's in my old room mates name from when we first moved here from up North. |
| pperry | 03-25-2019 12:25 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddm50
(Post 988574)
It doesn't matter lol, US accs now require SSN so unless you have your own SSN or you wanna commit identity theft I don't see how are you gonna help him.
|
They only require SSN if you want to spend/ use your balance online. If you dont provide ssn you can still withdraw to your bank if attached. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 12:59 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988800)
Ah so you're a yankee too, eh...
|
You know where I'm from. I just don't post it on the forums lol... |
| phaz0rz | 03-25-2019 01:37 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 988777)
when we first moved here from up North.
| Transplant detected. :dance: |
| StealthGirl | 03-28-2019 06:46 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
I had to call paypal today regarding an issue with my "real" account. The rep asked if I was interested in verifying my identity and I declined because I said that I will do what I currently do...withdraw any payments received to my bank and make purchases using my credit cards so that I can earn the points.
I did ask some questions about the change tomorrow and was told that these changes do not apply to business accounts. I went back to the policy update and can't believe I didn't pick-up on it being a policy update for personal accounts. She said that business accounts will continue operating as normal for the time being.
I've abandoned all accounts that didn't have a bank account attached, but i'll go back to one in a few weeks to see what happens if I try converting it to a business account. |
| Leader2dark | 03-28-2019 08:47 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by StealthGirl
(Post 989774)
I had to call paypal today regarding an issue with my "real" account. The rep asked if I was interested in verifying my identity and I declined because I said that I will do what I currently do...withdraw any payments received to my bank and make purchases using my credit cards so that I can earn the points.
I did ask some questions about the change tomorrow and was told that these changes do not apply to business accounts. I went back to the policy update and can't believe I didn't pick-up on it being a policy update for personal accounts. She said that business accounts will continue operating as normal for the time being.
I've abandoned all accounts that didn't have a bank account attached, but i'll go back to one in a few weeks to see what happens if I try converting it to a business account.
| It sounds like upgrading to Business accounts now want tax info and IDs anyway. Some posts on here about it today. |
| Lucynda | 03-31-2019 11:06 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Over on the Etsy forum, they have started opening Mexican accounts to avoid the issue of a social since Etsy no longer accepts EIN's. That's always a possibility too. |
| agent006140 | 03-31-2019 01:30 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
mexican Etsy ACCOUNT with US bank account for fund transfer.
do you have to put in adddress,and phone number? |
| oethumb39 | 03-31-2019 11:42 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
if not verified can we still use the paypal balance to pay for ebay ees? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 988383)
if you add a USA bank account, you should still be able to withdraw to a bank but not use the balance for anything else and yes this is the new Paypal of March 31st 2019.
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| slokor | 04-01-2019 12:19 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by oethumb39
(Post 990530)
if not verified can we still use the paypal balance to pay for ebay ees?
| No you cannot.
Unless the account is SSN+DOB verified you cannot send payments of any kind - including ebay fee payments. |
| phaz0rz | 04-01-2019 10:44 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
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| Leader2dark | 04-01-2019 11:59 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 990629)
| Yeah I don't think the changes have happened yet. I've paid for orders from my balance, BUT I DO have banks attached. |
| phaz0rz | 04-01-2019 12:04 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Makes me wonder when/if the changes will happen on accounts made before today. Their original ominous email regarding these updates made it sound like every account would be updated overnight.
Oh well. Business as usual lol
:ranger: |
| Lucynda | 04-01-2019 03:50 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by StealthGirl
(Post 989774)
I had to call paypal today regarding an issue with my "real" account. The rep asked if I was interested in verifying my identity and I declined because I said that I will do what I currently do...withdraw any payments received to my bank and make purchases using my credit cards so that I can earn the points.
I did ask some questions about the change tomorrow and was told that these changes do not apply to business accounts. I went back to the policy update and can't believe I didn't pick-up on it being a policy update for personal accounts. She said that business accounts will continue operating as normal for the time being.
I've abandoned all accounts that didn't have a bank account attached, but i'll go back to one in a few weeks to see what happens if I try converting it to a business account.
| I attempted to convert one to a business account and they are now asking me for a social security card, a W2, or a paycheck stub to verify my identity. I found a program online that can make a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ one for me with the information I submit but you still have to buy the stub after. I don't know how much it costs though. |
| Leader2dark | 04-01-2019 05:16 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucynda
(Post 990700)
I attempted to convert one to a business account and they are now asking me for a social security card, a W2, or a paycheck stub to verify my identity. I found a program online that can make a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ one for me with the information I submit but you still have to buy the stub after. I don't know how much it costs though.
| You realize the SS number they can check with IRS? How can you ⊗⊗⊗⊗ this? |
| ddm50 | 04-01-2019 05:19 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988468)
They don't want to but there's too much international money laundering going on, so they're having to do this. The age of cryptocurrency probably accelerated PP's timeline for doing this by like 5 years. They've probably known all along they would be forced to start actually verifying users one day, but I doubt it's something they've been looking forward to because it means a lot of lost revenue for them.
Yeah, things like that can happen.
| Age of cryptocurrency? Why do you always point every bad thing that happens at crypto. PayPal doesn't give two ****s about moneylaundering, they just have to comply with laws.
Cryptocurrency is the best thing that happened to monetary systems. |
| phaz0rz | 04-02-2019 06:31 AM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddm50
(Post 990716)
Age of cryptocurrency? Why do you always point every bad thing that happens at crypto. PayPal doesn't give two ****s about moneylaundering, they just have to comply with laws.
Cryptocurrency is the best thing that happened to monetary systems.
| It is what it is. Crypto is 100% what brought this on. I blame bad things on crypto because crypto is used exclusively for bad things. What do you think caused the new laws that PP is having to comply with to be written in the first place? Crypto money laundering. Now PP is being drug down in a mess caused by crypto.
Crypto is a joke. Good for buying weed, meth, cocaine, identities, children, Amazon accounts, etc (mostly illegal stuff) . Could all be a psyop to track drug dealers and human traffickers. Who knows. It certainly hasn't taken off like people were saying it would.. and it never will. The central banking system IS NOT going to give up their power over the world and just let BTC take over. They just wanted you to think it might for a while, so they could make a sh!tload of money off of everyone's ignorance. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-02-2019 01:46 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 990887)
The central banking system IS NOT going to give up their power over the world and just let BTC take over. They just wanted you to think it might for a while, so they could make a sh!tload of money off of everyone's ignorance.
| Exactly. The government would confiscate every computer in every household before they allowed something like that! |
| ddm50 | 04-02-2019 08:56 PM |
Re: NO more new stealth US PayPal
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 990887)
It is what it is. Crypto is 100% what brought this on. I blame bad things on crypto because crypto is used exclusively for bad things. What do you think caused the new laws that PP is having to comply with to be written in the first place? Crypto money laundering. Now PP is being drug down in a mess caused by crypto.
Crypto is a joke. Good for buying weed, meth, cocaine, identities, children, Amazon accounts, etc (mostly illegal stuff) . Could all be a psyop to track drug dealers and human traffickers. Who knows. It certainly hasn't taken off like people were saying it would.. and it never will. The central banking system IS NOT going to give up their power over the world and just let BTC take over. They just wanted you to think it might for a while, so they could make a sh!tload of money off of everyone's ignorance.
| Mate, do some research, most of the money is money laundered from banks, every 3-4months you'll see atleast up to 1-2b laundered and banks being investigated for it.
Central banking system? A country without it's own banking system is not a country, banks will always exist.
Bitcoin mostly is used actually for legal purposes. You probably also think the earth is flat.
Cryptocurrency is a revolution whether you like it or not and about not taking off, I guess your comment on the forum made Bitcoin spark to 5k. :surrender:
Also, Rome wasn't built in a day.
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The estimated amount of money laundered globally in one year is 2 - 5% of global GDP, or $800 billion - $2 trillion in current US dollars.
Say money laundered through Bitcoin is 1.6b every year, that's still 0.2% and the other 99.80% is cash/banks. Do some research man. |
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