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Ebay12345 08-12-2019 07:31 AM

Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Hello.


Stealth PayPal limitation got lifted off yesterday after waiting 6 months and PayPal sent me an email saying how to withdraw money and when I attach my Debit credit card it says card is declined please attach another card. Anyone know what’s the issue here? I haven’t got another card and it’s a nationwide card.

defercule 08-12-2019 09:04 AM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebay12345 (Post 1025907)
Hello.


Stealth PayPal limitation got lifted off yesterday after waiting 6 months and PayPal sent me an email saying how to withdraw money and when I attach my Debit credit card it says card is declined please attach another card. Anyone know what’s the issue here? I haven’t got another card and it’s a nationwide card.

Is this a usa or uk account? I do not think you can withdraw the money to a debit card

JamesNorth101 08-12-2019 09:17 AM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
You cannot withdraw to a card... you need to add a bank account.

james_112233 08-12-2019 09:19 AM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Why are you trying to withdraw funds to a "debit" card ? Money goes in to a bank account. Add a bank before you get yourself limited again and they ask for docs.

JamesNorth101 08-12-2019 09:42 AM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Something is amiss...

A debit card and a bank account are 2 totally different things. One is a card that draws funding from the bank account, the other is the bank account.

You add the bank account, not the card. You then withdraw to the bank account.

JamesNorth101 08-12-2019 11:26 AM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Yes you can have a card without a bank account. They are called prepaid cards - they are also debit cards simply ones without a bank account linked to them directly.

You can also have a bank account without having a debit card.

Its the bank account that gets added. 8 digit account number and the 6 digit sort code.

Debit cards will always get declined as they fail the AVS checks.

Ebay12345 08-12-2019 12:00 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1025978)
Yes you can have a card without a bank account. They are called prepaid cards - they are also debit cards simply ones without a bank account linked to them directly.

You can also have a bank account without having a debit card.

Its the bank account that gets added. 8 digit account number and the 6 digit sort code.

Debit cards will always get declined as they fail the AVS checks.


Ok I’ll try the bank account

Ebay12345 08-12-2019 12:02 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
I thought the credit card was for withdrawal the funds I will remove that now and have a go at the bank account.

JamesNorth101 08-12-2019 12:18 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
So you say... but every time I have tried or other members have tried here with fully mismatching address they fail when done the usual standard way. By all means feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

Regardless of semantics a debit card is not the same as a bank account. They are 2 separate things. One simply draws from the other.

That article simplifies the entire thing a lot. Its also for the US... so being that we are based in the UK its not much use. Best to read and fully understand something when trying to prove a point with quick Google :) A simply way to demonstrate that is you an get prepaid cards linked directly to bank accounts. Cardonebanking for example. Payoneer operate something similar as well. Blows the definition on that link out the water a tad.

There are really only 2 things that matter for stealth

Cards that have to pass AVS and cards that do not. It doesnt matter if its a prepaid card, a debit card, a VCC, a credit card etc

Cards that have to pass the AVS checks will not work for mismatching adds. Cards that do not pass the AVS check will not

Sure there are ways to get around and bypass that, but really if someone isn't sure what the different between a bank account and a debit card is maybe its best to keep it simple...

@tinsoldier - If you are able to add your debit card to a PayPal with a random address I would really advise talking to your bank. They are really letting you down on anti-fraud measures.

OP - add the bank account not the debit card.

Ebay12345 08-12-2019 12:35 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
When I click the agree and add button it says.


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Ebay12345 08-12-2019 12:47 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
What is the issue here can someone point me in the right direction please ? i need these funds I got 2 more stealth accounts do do after this one.

JamesNorth101 08-12-2019 12:55 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Which bank are you trying to add?

defercule 08-12-2019 02:45 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebay12345 (Post 1026010)
What is the issue here can someone point me in the right direction please ? i need these funds I got 2 more stealth accounts do do after this one.

Do you have 2 pther seperate accounts to use?

Ebay12345 08-12-2019 03:38 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1026011)
Which bank are you trying to add?


Nationwide my own bank

Ebay12345 08-12-2019 03:39 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defercule (Post 1026040)
Do you have 2 pther seperate accounts to use?


2 more stealth accounts I have after this one I complete

parsierngue 08-12-2019 03:41 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1025995)
So you say... but every time I have tried or other members have tried here with fully mismatching address they fail when done the usual standard way. By all means feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

Regardless of semantics a debit card is not the same as a bank account. They are 2 separate things. One simply draws from the other.

That article simplifies the entire thing a lot. Its also for the US... so being that we are based in the UK its not much use. Best to read and fully understand something when trying to prove a point with quick Google :) A simply way to demonstrate that is you an get prepaid cards linked directly to bank accounts. Cardonebanking for example. Payoneer operate something similar as well. Blows the definition on that link out the water a tad.

There are really only 2 things that matter for stealth

Cards that have to pass AVS and cards that do not. It doesnt matter if its a prepaid card, a debit card, a VCC, a credit card etc

Cards that have to pass the AVS checks will not work for mismatching adds. Cards that do not pass the AVS check will not

Sure there are ways to get around and bypass that, but really if someone isn't sure what the different between a bank account and a debit card is maybe its best to keep it simple...

@tinsoldier - If you are able to add your debit card to a PayPal with a random address I would really advise talking to your bank. They are really letting you down on anti-fraud measures.

OP - add the bank account not the debit card.

Payoner definitely aren't a bank (just ask PayPal lol), and their "global payment service" has always been a separate service. Payoneer issue prepaid cards but not debit cards; debit cards and prepaid cards are not the same thing, and the country that we are speaking about makes not one bit of difference as the three types of card (credit, debit and prepaid) are all separate from one another regardless of the country.

Card BIN checks wouldn't be able to tell you that a card was prepaid rather than credit or debit if it didn't truly exist as a separate card type. A card that's not linked to a bank account simply isn't a debit card.

SaiJin 08-12-2019 03:48 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Debit cards and banks are 2 different things. Adding a bank is a much better option.
However if you addded a card and it was rejected, it flagged the system and now when you try to add a bank, you'll tend to see the error message you saw.

Ebay12345 08-12-2019 04:33 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Can someone help me when I try adding a bank account on PayPal to withdraw my stealth money it keeps saying this error message in red.


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JamesNorth101 08-12-2019 04:53 PM

You chaps need to stop skim reading and take a little more time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1026047)
Cardone are not a bank. :doh:

I didnt say that they were a bank. I said that they have a bank account. Again there is a difference. You keep skipping over these important difference. If you slow down and take the time to read more you may learn a few things :thumb:

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsierngue (Post 1026051)
Payoner definitely aren't a bank (just ask PayPal lol), and their "global payment service" has always been a separate service. Payoneer issue prepaid cards but not debit cards; debit cards and prepaid cards are not the same thing, and the country that we are speaking about makes not one bit of difference as the three types of card (credit, debit and prepaid) are all separate from one another regardless of the country.

Once again I didnt actually say that they are a bank. I said that they have a bank account.

Happy to concede that in absolute terms a debit card and a pre-paid card are different, but that is just semantics not really the point I am getting at here as it really bares no relevance to the OPs issue..... The point I am making is that a bank account and a prepaid card / debit card are separate things. They are not the same. Adding one is not the same as adding the other.

The second point being that any card, be it prepaid or debit, if they have to pass an AVS check will not add to PayPal accounts in which the address is different.

@tinsoldier you have said a few times that you can always add your debit card to a PayPal account without any issues and I am pretty sure in the past I have asked you to explain but there was no reply. Again feel free to explain how you add in a debit card issued by a bank that has AVS checks in place to any PayPal without issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsierngue (Post 1026051)
Card BIN checks wouldn't be able to tell you that a card was prepaid rather than credit or debit if it didn't truly exist as a separate card type. A card that's not linked to a bank account simply isn't a debit card.

BIN checkers dont always get them right, but again beside the point here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebay12345 (Post 1026071)
Can someone help me when I try adding a bank account on PayPal to withdraw my stealth money it keeps saying this error message in red.


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To answer OP - sometimes you need to phone PayPal for them to manually add the bank account

parsierngue 08-19-2019 01:53 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
I didn't skim read. It's simply not possible to have a bank account if it hasn't actually come from a bank... and that's why Payoneer has agreements with real banks to provide their gimped virtual account details, which are not even proper bank accounts; were it a true bank account, it would have a debit card linked to it, not a prepaid card.

Regarding the BIN check, I wasn't saying that they were always correct, but there wouldn't be a category specifically for prepaid cards if they weren't actually separate from debit cards; it's nothing to do with semantics.

agent006140 08-19-2019 02:16 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
In US,you can use a bank issued debit card,you haVE to pay a fee but it is much ,much faster than ACH(AUTOMATED CLEARING HOUSE VIA FEED RESERVE SYSTEM).
I dont think this is available in UK,CHECK !

agent006140 08-19-2019 02:23 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
A card that's not linked to a bank account simply isn't a debit card.
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DEBIT CARD by definition debits an account which holds a balance,like Paypal MC debit card which debits Paypal balance backed by your bank account .
debit card itself does not hold any fund.

JamesNorth101 08-19-2019 02:24 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Thank you agent - already gone over that though :thumb:

None of this has anything to do with OPs actual question which was why he was having issues linking his card to a PayPal. The answer to which is that that most real debit cards will fail the AVS check.

agent006140 08-19-2019 02:24 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebay12345 (Post 1026071)
Can someone help me when I try adding a bank account on PayPal to withdraw my stealth money it keeps saying this error message in red.


**We’re sorry. We’re not able to process your request right now. Please try again later**

has it been added to another Paypal account already?

JamesNorth101 08-19-2019 02:50 PM

Re: Permanent PayPal limit got removed yesterday help PLEASE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1027906)
has it been added to another Paypal account already?

Lets try not to guess if we can avoid it

That message just happens on PayPal UK - it can be down to not having enough cookies, the bank account itself having an issue (if its only just been set up for example), or sometimes its PayPal being a bit funny

9 times out of 10 a phone call will fix it


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