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ap1337 03-11-2022 12:33 PM

PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Hello,

so I do have a problem. I was able to create tons of stealth PayPal accounts without any problem for a last few years, but for like last 7 days I'm not able to make any account. Making an account on a fresh user, fresh sim card, new local isp and everything - nothing works for me anymore. After a first payment before that PayPal was always asking for docs - I was sending them and account was getting restored, but now after a first payment they do just perma limit the account. Does anyone knows what's going on and how to avoid that? Thank you.

Jband0 03-12-2022 06:12 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
I’m having the exact same issue brother, I have no idea what the problem is, seems like PayPal are using a new system to detect stealth or something. My stealths were working for the past two years and suddenly I’m getting permanently limited. If someone can find a fox for this you’d be saving my financials.

rsot 03-12-2022 07:27 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Are you all using a new user account on the same computer? Same browser?

ap1337 03-12-2022 08:33 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1187016)
Are you all using a new user account on the same computer? Same browser?


I’ve tried a new user on windows, also I did a full clean install, tried doing it on my mac, tried a VM - nothing works. The numbers to the accounts are a real sim cards so that’s also not the issue. Tried multiple vccs - from revolut, icard, zen, also one from my bank - the same. Multiple local ips, multiple internet from a fresh sim card - that didn’t work also. Multiple ids also - that does not work also. Really having no idea.

Jband0 03-12-2022 09:06 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
The same with me. I use phones for stealth. Tried a whole new phone with new sim using 4g bought specifically for one account. Still no success, please don’t tell me it’s something in my method as I literally have made up to 60-70 accounts in two years using this method.

Ebayorbust 03-12-2022 10:01 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jband0 (Post 1187028)
The same with me. I use phones for stealth. Tried a whole new phone with new sim using 4g bought specifically for one account. Still no success, please don’t tell me it’s something in my method as I literally have made up to 60-70 accounts in two years using this method.

At what point are you being limited?

ap1337 03-12-2022 10:56 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1187029)
At what point are you being limited?

For me it's after receiving the first payment - they always were asking for docs and after sending them the acc was getting restored but now it's just an instant perma limitation

Jband0 03-12-2022 11:02 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1187029)
At what point are you being limited?

After the first payment. The account could sit for days with no issues but when someone purchases from me I get permanently limited. This was not the case before. They would ask for docs but ultimately I’d get restored as my docs are legit.

Ebayorbust 03-12-2022 12:02 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Well it's not happening across the board so perhaps take a look at what you are selling.

It might be worth lifting limits / confirming identity on your accounts before receiving any funds.

Quote:

They would ask for docs but ultimately I’d get restored as my docs are legit.
Explain how were you supplying "legit" documents across multiple stealth accounts? It's a bit of a contradiction.......

Jband0 03-12-2022 02:14 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1187034)
Well it's not happening across the board so perhaps take a look at what you are selling.

It might be worth lifting limits / confirming identity on your accounts before receiving any funds.



Explain how were you supplying "legit" documents across multiple stealth accounts? It's a bit of a contradiction.......

Have you created stealth accounts in 2022? Which method? If you don’t mind me asking as this is very important for me.

And to answer your question I’m blessed with friends who allow me to create stealths in their name.

Jband0 03-12-2022 02:46 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Forgot to add. I sell vintage clothing usually on PayPal. When my accounts get limited they always ask for invoice and all the rest. Now because my items are vintage I cannot provide invoice for PayPal so I always write to them stating this and up until December this was working, could this be the reason why they are permanently limiting my new accounts after the first sale? Would this create a link. PS done this for over 15 accounts.

Ebayorbust 03-12-2022 03:08 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Depending on how you are selling the items and where, then yes, you can definitely get linked.

Perhaps your friends who's info you are using already have their own paypal accounts and forgot to tell you.

And yes, I've made loads of paypal accounts in 2022 but I make actual stealth accounts and not real accounts in friends' details.

ap1337 03-13-2022 01:46 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Still didn’t came up to any solutin for that. Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I cannot do my business anymore since that.

Roy3805 03-13-2022 11:03 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1337 (Post 1187077)
Still didn’t came up to any solutin for that. Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I cannot do my business anymore since that.

You have to be selling risky items or something that’s suspicious to PayPal to keep getting limited after first sale

rsot 03-14-2022 03:49 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1337 (Post 1187077)
Still didn’t came up to any solutin for that. Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I cannot do my business anymore since that.

In what category is your first sale?

ap1337 03-14-2022 04:11 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Clothes, before that I had no problems for a few years, it just started recently.

Roy3805 03-14-2022 02:25 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Clothes may be risky, I know ebay hates clothes unless you can verify that they are authentic. Not sure about paypal

SaiJin 03-14-2022 02:31 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1337 (Post 1187115)
Clothes, before that I had no problems for a few years, it just started recently.

what kind of clothes are they and what's the value?

ap1337 03-14-2022 07:33 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Designer clothes, all are authenthic. Never had any problems before. 400$+ all

SaiJin 03-14-2022 07:47 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1337 (Post 1187162)
Designer clothes, all are authenthic. Never had any problems before. 400$+ all

There... that's the problem.

designer clothes and they are expensive. Authentic or not this is the most likely culprit.

Ever tried just listing something generic for the first week?

ap1337 03-14-2022 10:43 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1187165)
There... that's the problem.

designer clothes and they are expensive. Authentic or not this is the most likely culprit.

Ever tried just listing something generic for the first week?

Never did as I never was in need of. - after a first sale they always just wanted docs which I was able to provide to get the account restored, but now they just perma ban it. Guess I’m just gonna buy an aged PayPal.

rsot 03-15-2022 03:53 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1337 (Post 1187172)
Never did as I never was in need of. - after a first sale they always just wanted docs which I was able to provide to get the account restored, but now they just perma ban it. Guess I’m just gonna buy an aged PayPal.

It is possible that recently, the designer labels you were working with have been flagged harder

Jband0 03-15-2022 06:43 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
It’s crazy that I have the same problem ap1337 has, I have been selling sneakers for over 2 years with the same method now all of a sudden none of my accounts are getting restored. Permanent ban straight after first sale. I find it hard that it’s only us with this problem.

Awest 03-21-2022 09:31 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
I’ve been having issues with stealth PayPal accounts now for the first time. In my case it gets limited immediately, I submit the documents which are accepted and everything seems fine. Then I receive the first payment it perma banned within days. I’m using a new device and new mobile data connection.

rsot 03-22-2022 04:02 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Awest (Post 1187763)
I’ve been having issues with stealth PayPal accounts now for the first time. In my case it gets limited immediately, I submit the documents which are accepted and everything seems fine. Then I receive the first payment it perma banned within days. I’m using a new device and new mobile data connection.

What category of item is your first sale?

Jband0 03-22-2022 04:49 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Awest (Post 1187763)
I’ve been having issues with stealth PayPal accounts now for the first time. In my case it gets limited immediately, I submit the documents which are accepted and everything seems fine. Then I receive the first payment it perma banned within days. I’m using a new device and new mobile data connection.

Are you using eBay or depop to sell, in my case I think using the depop app is my downfall but I am yet to test it.

volumedead 03-23-2022 01:17 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Same problem. Reg acc new limit 180 day or id, new order limit 180 day

rsot 03-23-2022 04:10 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volumedead (Post 1187852)
Same problem. Reg acc new limit 180 day or id, new order limit 180 day

Lot of details needed to analyze - new order limit 180 day?

volumedead 03-23-2022 08:29 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1187858)
Lot of details needed to analyze - new order limit 180 day?

Yes bro, first payment account limit 180 day

Pacif 05-02-2022 02:25 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1337 (Post 1186964)
Hello,

so I do have a problem. I was able to create tons of stealth PayPal accounts without any problem for a last few years, but for like last 7 days I'm not able to make any account. Making an account on a fresh user, fresh sim card, new local isp and everything - nothing works for me anymore. After a first payment before that PayPal was always asking for docs - I was sending them and account was getting restored, but now after a first payment they do just perma limit the account. Does anyone knows what's going on and how to avoid that? Thank you.

Have you found a solution so far? I'm facing the exact same problem. I tried to change everything including business name but I still got a permanent limitation immediately after the first sale. I'm suspecting that PayPal has decided to stop doing business with people in certain niches.

rsot 05-02-2022 04:10 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacif (Post 1191262)
Have you found a solution so far? I'm facing the exact same problem. I tried to change everything including business name but I still got a permanent limitation immediately after the first sale. I'm suspecting that PayPal has decided to stop doing business with people in certain niches.

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:


Need more details about your setup and category of selling

Pacif 05-02-2022 05:53 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1191266)
Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

http://youtu.be/TLcuTISVs3s

Need more details about your setup and category of selling

I sell under "digital goods" category. I had been using a real account with friend's details for 3 months then all of a sudden, I got a permanent limitation immediately after receiving a payment. Then I created a new account with another friend's details using new ip, new simcard though I used the same window account and same browser but I cleaned cookies. Immediately after getting the first sale I got permanently limited. Today I have created a new account using another friend's details, new windows user account, and new simcard. I'm still waiting for my first payment, to see if I will be limited or not, but from what I have read on the previous comments here, it seems I will still get limited. I will let you know if I get limited or not after the first sale.
I sell PDF books on my website and I use "buy now" buttons. I'm also suspecting that my website may have been black listed by PayPal. Though I didn't mention my website on any of my accounts. I don't know if they check the referring website. I have also used the "noreferrer noopener" tags on the "buy now" buttons html codes

Pacif 05-03-2022 02:17 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1191266)
Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

http://youtu.be/TLcuTISVs3s

Need more details about your setup and category of selling

The new one also got permanently limited limited immediately after the first sale. I really don't know what to do now

Ebayorbust 05-03-2022 02:34 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

I sell PDF books on my website and I use "buy now" buttons. I'm also suspecting that my website may have been black listed by PayPal.
This is causing the link and suspension.

You need to change the website URL.

Pacif 05-03-2022 02:57 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1191340)
This is causing the link and suspension.

You need to change the website URL.

Should I change only the URL but the same domain or create a whole new website?

Ebayorbust 05-03-2022 03:00 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacif (Post 1191342)
Should I change only the URL but the same domain or create a whole new website?

It's not something that I have personally done so you might be best to take advice from someone that has.

Pacif 05-03-2022 03:14 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1191345)
It's not something that I have personally done so you might be best to take advice from someone that has.

Have you created any business account recently that worked fine? It seems this problem started from the end of March this year, I don't know how many people are facing the same problem?

Ebayorbust 05-03-2022 03:16 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacif (Post 1191346)
Have you created any business account recently that worked fine? It seems this problem started from the end of March this year, I don't know how many people are facing the same problem?

Your specific problem is due to linking. It has nothing to do with account creation.

It is perfectly possible to make both personal and business accounts that do not get instantly limited with a request for ID. I've made loads in the last few months.

rsot 05-03-2022 05:15 AM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacif (Post 1191342)
Should I change only the URL but the same domain or create a whole new website?

Feels like new would be safer but it seems like a lot of work...following thread for other comments

Unimoc007 08-09-2022 05:27 PM

Re: PayPal instant limitation after a first payment.
 
I have the same problem now bro . Days ago my paypal accouts get limited even the first transaction not limited .then after 21 days when i try to withdraw it turns limited id
,Bussiness ,supply, invoice and trackings limitations


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