Won case against Paypal for AUP on stealth account

TheBosss · #1 12-13-2023

PP stole 3.4k from me under AUP, went with a no cost upfront lawfirm I got put on through that one website that helps with all types of claims. Won 2k of it back, well 1.3k after lawfirm fee, still better than nothing as I chalked it up to awhile ago.

Lawfirm sent me forms to sign that include a W-9 since this is income over $600. They also send a check in the mail, so not as easy as depositing to bank account. So obviously its time to come clean, just don't know in what way to do it lol. I'm in the USA as well.

**SaiJin** · #2 12-13-2023

what happens with the other 1.4k?

murdered_by_ebay · #3 12-13-2023

paypal lose court cases very frequently , on large amounts they usually agree to out of court settlements but demand to sign a non disclosure agreement

TheBosss · #4 12-13-2023

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Originally Posted by SaiJin

what happens with the other 1.4k?

Paypal sends the remaining balance on accounts to themselves under AUP. 95% of the time people don't get that money back and paypal keeps it. I and many others tried many different routes and no one or entity can help get it back since you "agreed" to their TOS. So i'm just happy to get anything back at this point, been like 3 years lol.

**SaiJin** · #5 12-13-2023

3 years for $2k ... It's more of a "I'll slap PP in the face" gratification for me

TheBosss · #6 12-14-2023

Ehh can't think about it that way. It's better than zero, which is what I was expecting and what 95%+ of people in the same position get. Nor would I even want to bother the lawyer to try to get more, as I have to drop the "Thats not my real name on the account" line on them shortly. Don't know if we'll even get to proceed after that.

**SaiJin** · #7 12-14-2023

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Originally Posted by ErkDaddy

Ehh can't think about it that way. It's better than zero, which is what I was expecting and what 95%+ of people in the same position get. Nor would I even want to bother the lawyer to try to get more, as I have to drop the "Thats not my real name on the account" line on them shortly. Don't know if we'll even get to proceed after that.

I hear you. I'm glad you got 2K back.
Just wish you get 100% of what yours is back...

but still it's a win for you and that's super

rsot · #8 12-15-2023

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Originally Posted by ErkDaddy

Ehh can't think about it that way. It's better than zero, which is what I was expecting and what 95%+ of people in the same position get. Nor would I even want to bother the lawyer to try to get more, as I have to drop the "Thats not my real name on the account" line on them shortly. Don't know if we'll even get to proceed after that.

Congrats on the win - even minus the fees - you got something

TheBosss · #9 12-15-2023

Well I haven't gotten anything yet lol. Unsure what the lawyer will say when i tell them "Sooo the name on the account and address are completely made up".

They might say I have to update both on the account to my name and address (if possible) and this would totally ruin my 10+ year actual personal & business accounts as i'm sure paypal will link them and ban.

Automasters · #10 12-15-2023

Yes congrats, finally someone is taking these scammers to account

rsot · #11 12-16-2023

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Originally Posted by ErkDaddy

Well I haven't gotten anything yet lol. Unsure what the lawyer will say when i tell them "Sooo the name on the account and address are completely made up".

True - if nothing received yet, not any reason to celebrate

TheBosss · #12 12-22-2023

Update: Lawyer says she needs to ask boss how to proceed. Apparently paypal is the one asking for a W-9 aka my info. I'm afraid this would link to my actual real business paypal since my SSN is attached. So it comes down to is it worth being banned forever from Paypal over $1300? That amount to be honest is a lot for me right now. I barely have any expendable income after I pay all my expenses every month.

**SaiJin** · #13 12-23-2023

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Originally Posted by ErkDaddy

Update: Lawyer says she needs to ask boss how to proceed. Apparently paypal is the one asking for a W-9 aka my info. I'm afraid this would link to my actual real business paypal since my SSN is attached. So it comes down to is it worth being banned forever from Paypal over $1300? That amount to be honest is a lot for me right now. I barely have any expendable income after I pay all my expenses every month.

I understand how you feel. $1300 can feel a lot depending on your situation. now I can't tell you what to do , but I'll tell you what I would do.

$1300 is little money nowadays, you need more to survive long term and if I have to choose between a long term money making account and instant gratification $1300 now, I'd choose my long term money making account.

And if that account isn't making me enough, then I'll do my best to make it so.
Suffer a little bit but be relieved in the long run

OldTom · #14 12-23-2023

Whilst we're not privvy to the contract you signed with the lawyers, I'll wager they will want paying if you back out so this whole exercise would end up costing you money and paypal get to keep your funds.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but surprised this scenario wasn't raised with your lawyers beforehand.

**SaiJin** · #15 12-23-2023

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Originally Posted by OldTom

Whilst we're not privvy to the contract you signed with the lawyers, I'll wager they will want paying if you back out so this whole exercise would end up costing you money and paypal get to keep your funds.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but surprised this scenario wasn't raised with your lawyers beforehand.

right, that's a good point right there.

But sounds like OP is also rather desperate for the $$ so we can't blame him.

Whatever happens, I hope he won't risk his money making goose

agent006140 · #16 12-23-2023

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Originally Posted by ErkDaddy

Update: Lawyer says she needs to ask boss how to proceed. Apparently paypal is the one asking for a W-9 aka my info. I'm afraid this would link to my actual real business paypal since my SSN is attached. So it comes down to is it worth being banned forever from Paypal over $1300? That amount to be honest is a lot for me right now. I barely have any expendable income after I pay all my expenses every month.

It depends,Paypal is a large organisation,those police and those who handle cases like yours are separate departments.
A clerk who handles your case gets a copy of your W-9,is he going to key all that information into the data Base?and how many data bases do they have?
It would take a bot which catches wrongdoers to sweep database(s) to connect
your two accounts based on SSN,AND then what?Is it programmed to conclude these are the same person and ban your good account?
It is a chance you will have to take.

TheBosss · #17 12-23-2023

Yeah while not 100% certain they would link my account and ban my personal business paypal, pretty high chance.

I don't use paypal to sell anything, just use it to buy things. But its a 10 year old account that has done many money in the past, so would hurt if I did need it in the future.

Lawfirm is kind of just like a beginner type once who works with fairshake. I doubt they did much besides send a demand letter. They're only taking 33% share, no upfront money, so doubt they have use any major "manpower" / time effort into these things. Either way I would kind of feel bad backing out on them at this point.

degsey69 · #18 12-23-2023

I would have tried to deposit the check into my account by online banking, I am sure it does not scan the name just the account and routing number and technically you could endorse it on the back as though you cashed it for the payee.

Automasters · #19 12-23-2023

Yes, have done this before as well, deposited checks in another name via online banking via a scan. I also never use gaypal for selling, only for purchases. They screwed me over for the last time when they tried to lock funds for an item which took me hours to build. Since they have been removed from all my websites. Never again scammers.

TheBosss · #20 12-24-2023

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Originally Posted by degsey69

I would have tried to deposit the check into my account by online banking, I am sure it does not scan the name just the account and routing number and technically you could endorse it on the back as though you cashed it for the payee.

Nah before we proceeded to even get to the point of cashout they asked me to fill out forms and a W-9 was one of those.

OldTom · #21 12-24-2023

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Originally Posted by degsey69

I would have tried to deposit the check into my account by online banking, I am sure it does not scan the name just the account and routing number and technically you could endorse it on the back as though you cashed it for the payee.

There is no check and probably never will be.

xenix · #22 12-26-2023

Glad that you sued scampal