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Hey guys, newb here.

I have website that sells VIP access to certain content(gray area) and I charge users via Patreon that then transfers money to paypal.

Is this the best and safest way to avoid KYC from both sides?

So far I've managed to pull out some money(P2P crypto) and pay for servers and other services without problems.

I started to warm up account 1 year ago(added phone, credit card and logged in from time to time, but no money on account) and last 2 months I've been pulling some $$$ out that is increasing every week, steadily.

Is this combo the best because there are no cashbacks or physical goods.
Because it's in the gray area, I try to avoid any KYC if possible

Tips that I've gathered and am following atm(but not verified):
  • Keeping under 1k on account.
  • Not withdrawing right away when money arrives
  • Withdrawing 50-70% of the whole balance
  • Withdrawing max once a day. Preferably once a week

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Following for other people's experiences with Patreon
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It is important to understand and follow people who are really users of patreon
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The way you do it seems very good to me, you shouldn't change your strategy. Although I would ask what you sell on your website.
Thanks.
I'm selling digital goods/SaaS.

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Thanks.
I'm selling digital goods/SaaS.
I know on eBay it's always risky to sell digital goods.

Paypal though I think should be ok.
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Agree with SaiJin - removing eb from the equation changes quite a bit on the use of pp...you should be ok as long as not a lot of chargebacks and issues
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Agree with SaiJin - removing eb from the equation changes quite a bit on the use of pp...you should be ok as long as not a lot of chargebacks and issues
because of Patreon, I don't have any chargebacks.
Is there some kind of limit on paypal on how much money you can withdraw until they ask KYC?
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because of Patreon, I don't have any chargebacks.
Is there some kind of limit on paypal on how much money you can withdraw until they ask KYC?
what is your average incoming payment amount/ and how much times that amount do you have in the balance/
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what is your average incoming payment amount/ and how much times that amount do you have in the balance/
plan is to earn 2k per month and withdraw from Patreon ~500 sums every week
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with pp, there was a kind of consensus to keep 3-4x the average sale in the account in order to keep it 'purring nicely' - dont withdraw to zero and certainly not right away after a sale
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with pp, there was a kind of consensus to keep 3-4x the average sale in the account in order to keep it 'purring nicely' - dont withdraw to zero and certainly not right away after a sale
Personally I don't like keeping ANYTHING in PP, what if they limit your account? You'll lose your money,
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Personally I don't like keeping ANYTHING in PP, what if they limit your account? You'll lose your money,
What other option do I have?
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Personally I don't like keeping ANYTHING in PP, what if they limit your account? You'll lose your money,
I hear that but look at your posts from years ago...back when pp was used by eb for sales...if i recall correctly - anyhow, times change
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What other option do I have?
I'd keep the balance on Paypal enough to cover your shipping costs.
But the majority of the $ I'd withdraw to the bank immediately.
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I hear that but look at your posts from years ago...back when pp was used by eb for sales...if i recall correctly - anyhow, times change
Sure time always changes but PP still steals people's money regardless.

I don't trust them and neither should you
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I'd keep the balance on Paypal enough to cover your shipping costs.
But the majority of the $ I'd withdraw to the bank immediately.
I do not have any shipping. I only sell digital goods via Patreon.
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I do not have any shipping. I only sell digital goods via Patreon.
Then I don't see why you'd keep your money in PP.

Especially with digital goods which is very risky.
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Then I don't see why you'd keep your money in PP.

Especially with digital goods which is very risky.
Patreon is a great payment gateway that takes care of the subscription/recurring payments and they only pay out to paypal or payoneer. Paypal is only one that doesn't ask KYC right away
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Patreon is a great payment gateway that takes care of the subscription/recurring payments and they only pay out to paypal or payoneer. Paypal is only one that doesn't ask KYC right away
Right, so keep using them, but I wouldn't keep the money inside paypal long.
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Hey guys, newb here.

I have website that sells VIP access to certain content(gray area) and I charge users via Patreon that then transfers money to paypal.

Is this the best and safest way to avoid KYC from both sides?

So far I've managed to pull out some money(P2P crypto) and pay for servers and other services without problems.

I started to warm up account 1 year ago(added phone, credit card and logged in from time to time, but no money on account) and last 2 months I've been pulling some $$$ out that is increasing every week, steadily.

Is this combo the best because there are no cashbacks or physical goods.
Because it's in the gray area, I try to avoid any KYC if possible

Tips that I've gathered and am following atm(but not verified):
  • Keeping under 1k on account.
  • Not withdrawing right away when money arrives
  • Withdrawing 50-70% of the whole balance
  • Withdrawing max once a day. Preferably once a week
Side question, isn't patreon mainly used for XXX content?
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Side question, isn't patreon mainly used for XXX content?
Its used for all sorts

Thats just one thing it can be used for

Lots of IG creators also use it. Photographers. People doing lots of charity. IG cannot be monetised in the same way youtube / tiktok etc can be so they use patreon a lot instead. I would say only a small part of those that use patreon are XXX providers. Most xxx use OF
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Its used for all sorts

Thats just one thing it can be used for

Lots of IG creators also use it. Photographers. People doing lots of charity. IG cannot be monetised in the same way youtube / tiktok etc can be so they use patreon a lot instead. I would say only a small part of those that use patreon are XXX providers. Most xxx use OF
so OF has a payment processor.
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