Why is PayPal doing this?

[Papyrusman]

Yeah, I see no reason to put myself into PP's or any other company's crosshairs if I can help it.

If I could just get Amazon to not be ****ty, I'd be golden.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Papyrusman

Yeah, I see no reason to put myself into PP's or any other company's crosshairs if I can help it.

If I could just get Amazon to not be ****ty, I'd be golden.

Amazon is that EXTREMELY HOT GIRLFRIEND..... but she has BPD and that time of the month all the time

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Do you keep using the F&F option?

If so it's abuse and they'll eventually nail you

Yes I do keep using F&F to send money from these stealth accounts I make.

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by agent006140

These have to do with your business model,you are denying Paypal to earn a fee for services provided.
Soon,Paypal could restrict your account,I would not abuse it

Yes I am aware of that and I think from now I will tell my clients to pay with F&F option and then I will send to myself with goods if that helps my acc from getting restricted.

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by rsot

You get quite a few disputes on the regular?

None at all really it depends how long I take to send out product to customers if I don’t they open a unauthorised case.

[agent006140]

I would be careful,Paypal will notice there are too many F & F activities !!
It does not just look at your Paypal account,but the sender account as well.

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by agent006140

I would be careful,Paypal will notice there are too many F & F activities !!
It does not just look at your Paypal account,but the sender account as well.

So say for example if I tell my clients to use F&F option only and from stealth accounts I send to myself using goods would that be fine to do?

[agent006140]

why do you want to do that?
why not ask your buyer to use payment for goods and service?
they do not pay fee,you do,so it should make no difference to them.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

Yes I do keep using F&F to send money from these stealth accounts I make.

That needs to stop. Can't do that.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

So say for example if I tell my clients to use F&F option only and from stealth accounts I send to myself using goods would that be fine to do?

You are going to run into trouble if you keep getting tons of F&F payments from random clients - pp's detection system is not so dumb. Either spread out payments over numerous pp accounts or change your business model

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

So say for example if I tell my clients to use F&F option only and from stealth accounts I send to myself using goods would that be fine to do?

NO, just tell them to pay you for goods or services.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

Yes I am aware of that and I think from now I will tell my clients to pay with F&F option and then I will send to myself with goods if that helps my acc from getting restricted.

This is worse,Paypal would wonder what trick you are playing?
when yo send the money to yourself ,paid Paypal fee,then what?
Do you print shipping labels?
if so,what is the ship to address?

[rsot]

Seems like Rodney123 is set on doing what is not recommended - anyhow, all the best moving forward

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by agent006140

why do you want to do that?
why not ask your buyer to use payment for goods and service?
they do not pay fee,you do,so it should make no difference to them.

Because if I tell clients to send with goods and services they can open up a dispute case and I won’t know about it because I don’t keep checking my stealth accounts.

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by rsot

You are going to run into trouble if you keep getting tons of F&F payments from random clients - pp's detection system is not so dumb. Either spread out payments over numerous pp accounts or change your business model

What will they do? The most they probably can do is limit the stealth accounts when they have been used a good few times.

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by agent006140

This is worse,Paypal would wonder what trick you are playing?
when yo send the money to yourself ,paid Paypal fee,then what?
Do you print shipping labels?
if so,what is the ship to address?

There’s no trick actually I just don’t want people to open disputes, there’s no shipping address as it’s digital goods & not physical items.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

There’s no trick actually I just don’t want people to open disputes, there’s no shipping address as it’s digital goods & not physical items.

they'll nuke your account and keep the money.

You can just send them a thank you postcard with tracking to show proof of delivery.

Seriously, stop abusing F&F.

[agent006140]

first class shipping with tracking could wipe out his profit.
what some digital sellers do is to block that buyer,if this is on Ebay,Ebay could suspend his buyer privilege as he is a hazard to the seller community.
Paypal could suspend his account as well,if he does it too many times

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

There’s no trick actually I just don’t want people to open disputes, there’s no shipping address as it’s digital goods & not physical items.

Keep in mind that digital goods are always subject to big time buyer abuse...lot of buyer fraud going on - especially if you're doing stuff like MS keys etc...tread carefully.

[agent006140]

It is just a matter of time his F & F payments will cause him his Paypal account.
what some digital sellers do is just take a chance,lose a few as long it is still a profitable .
Also Paypal and Ebay do not like such,do it too many times,they could lose their Ebay buying privilege and Paypal account

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

Because if I tell clients to send with goods and services they can open up a dispute case and I won’t know about it because I don’t keep checking my stealth accounts.

Seems like you're getting quite a few disputes or expecting to get them...check your business model

[Rodney123]

Okay will tell them all to pay with goods from now on thanks for the info.