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Why is PayPal doing this?
 

Hello all.

We’ve stopped this payment to keep you safe

I have noticed something why is pp not letting people send payment?

Re: Why is PayPal doing this?
 

You have to tell us more,what is the payment for and who is the sender>Did he buy something from you and where is he?
You will not know what is the source of his payment,that could be a problem

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Paypal only has your safety in mind, they are like your personal guardian angel :heh:

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Why are they doing that though it just doesn’t make sense.

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this is done by anti fraud , it is hard to tell why as you did not specify if it was from paypal to paypal or from paypal to outside or to paypal from outside

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Paypal has many fraud alerts-your sender could have a bad reputation,he could be making multiple purchase at the same time,he could be buying items which can be easily converted back to cash,he could be using virtual cards,gift cards,cards issued by ??
He could have just open his Paypal account ?He could be from a certain country?
You can call PAYPAL and ask.

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All the above comment is relevant except "call Paypal and ask" - that is a waste of time and potentially problematic for the pp account

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I sell items to people who buy and few people have tried sending payment with F&F option and pp has refused to send.

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It is from PayPal to another PayPal, my PayPal is only 1 week aged account do does this raise any alarm?

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I doubt it’s not that causing the problems.

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new paypal accounts should be treated the same way as new ebay accounts

safety on paypal can only be created if many accounts are used at the same time so open 50 accounts and switch between them , a couple of hundred quid there and here will not make a difference then

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why should a buyer send F & F for purchases and get no buyer protection?
Unless you are giving them a discount and Paypal earns nothing

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F&F option is tripping security flags when abused for purchase sale...looks like you're trying to circumvent fees - listen to murdered, good post about switching etc

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Because PayPal holds funds for 21 days and sometimes they ask for proof and I haven’t got that sort of proof to provide to pp, and also buyers can open a dispute at any time and I don’t be checking all the time in the pp account to see if they opened a case.

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Do you keep using the F&F option?

If so it's abuse and they'll eventually nail you

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FF is no problem if 1-3 payments come within a month , I have some older paypal that have not been actively used since paypal was scrapped on ebay and I was not suspended a single time for receiving FF payments and those payments were comparatively large , about $500-$1500 each

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These have to do with your business model,you are denying Paypal to earn a fee for services provided.
Soon,Paypal could restrict your account,I would not abuse it

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Yeah I think it really matters the scale of the orders coming in. I will occasionally get a F&F for something I sold, but I don't generally do it. If you can't set your email reminders up when someone disputes you via PP maybe you shouldn't be doing this? It's your business, treat it like one!

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If you constantly get F&F payments and they come all over the world from different Paypal accounts, highly possible that you can get flagged, as agent said above - because the algo labels you in avoiding Paypal fees for business payments.

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You get quite a few disputes on the regular?

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I generally just shy away from any FF payments.
It's not worth getting suspended over.

I'm using their service so it's right to pay them

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That's actually decent of the buyer to send it as F&F without you asking, it seems...but smart not to abuse that option

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Yeah, I see no reason to put myself into PP's or any other company's crosshairs if I can help it.

If I could just get Amazon to not be ****ty, I'd be golden.

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Amazon is that EXTREMELY HOT GIRLFRIEND..... but she has BPD and that time of the month all the time

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Yes I do keep using F&F to send money from these stealth accounts I make.

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Yes I am aware of that and I think from now I will tell my clients to pay with F&F option and then I will send to myself with goods if that helps my acc from getting restricted.

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None at all really it depends how long I take to send out product to customers if I don’t they open a unauthorised case.

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I would be careful,Paypal will notice there are too many F & F activities !!
It does not just look at your Paypal account,but the sender account as well.

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So say for example if I tell my clients to use F&F option only and from stealth accounts I send to myself using goods would that be fine to do?

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why do you want to do that?
why not ask your buyer to use payment for goods and service?
they do not pay fee,you do,so it should make no difference to them.

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That needs to stop. Can't do that.

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You are going to run into trouble if you keep getting tons of F&F payments from random clients - pp's detection system is not so dumb. Either spread out payments over numerous pp accounts or change your business model

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NO, just tell them to pay you for goods or services.

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This is worse,Paypal would wonder what trick you are playing?
when yo send the money to yourself ,paid Paypal fee,then what?
Do you print shipping labels?
if so,what is the ship to address?

Re: Why is PayPal doing this?
 

Seems like Rodney123 is set on doing what is not recommended - anyhow, all the best moving forward

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Because if I tell clients to send with goods and services they can open up a dispute case and I won’t know about it because I don’t keep checking my stealth accounts.

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What will they do? The most they probably can do is limit the stealth accounts when they have been used a good few times.

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There’s no trick actually I just don’t want people to open disputes, there’s no shipping address as it’s digital goods & not physical items.

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they'll nuke your account and keep the money.

You can just send them a thank you postcard with tracking to show proof of delivery.

Seriously, stop abusing F&F.

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first class shipping with tracking could wipe out his profit.
what some digital sellers do is to block that buyer,if this is on Ebay,Ebay could suspend his buyer privilege as he is a hazard to the seller community.
Paypal could suspend his account as well,if he does it too many times