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| dustin2br | 09-01-2011 01:24 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 264815)
This is the oldest trick in the book, you're cruising for a bruising. I wouldn't do it at all, ever. | Yes I've seen it in other threads not to do this. But I really don't see the risk here which is why I am asking. I pay my suppliers (the same supplier often) with different paypals, hell some ebay accounts I have a paypal with a vba and just use the balance to pay a supplier for items for all my accounts. I haven't been limited or suspended doing this in about 5 months so far. I only buy stuff once or twice a month, so its not often, but I'm sure even a number of us on this form have crossed paths and bought things from the same supplier month after month. Whats the risk?? |
| First Edition | 09-01-2011 07:15 AM | If you don't see the risk then why did you ask if it was a good idea? IT"S A BAD IDEA< DON"T DO IT!!!!
The risk is that both accounts will go down, and all you need to do is open a bank account. You're losing an extra 3 percent and more time and effort when you need to do is open a bank account.
I wish this thread would be deleted and in it's place say : Just add a new bank account to paypal. |
| dustin2br | 09-02-2011 12:19 AM | The only reason I asked if it was/wasn't a good idea is because you said it wasn't! lol. But seriously have you personally been kicked off for this reason specifically or know someone that has? I just noticed that this was an option because I always pay my suppliers from multiple different paypals (yes the same supplier, and even from one that got supsended and it never affected the others) and none of them have ever linked and/or been suspended for that reason. I know it seems too easy but it's not far off the scriptlance, freelancer idea. And it saves having to constantly transfer money from 8 different paypals to 8 different banks to one. |
| First Edition | 09-02-2011 04:29 PM | You'll get LINKED for doing that. You will get away with it for a while, sure. But given the easier alternative, there is no good reason to do it. |
| tergwin | 09-15-2011 07:06 PM | What about in UK, is there anyone except Cardone? Is there anywhere that accepts emailed id?
Would it be worth trying the freelancer thing on a few different sites? It is competeive now and it would look more realistic. Please keep this thread going with new ideas, I am just in the process of going for it with Amazon and Ebay!
:bump: |
| RomexTM | 09-23-2011 05:30 PM | Anyone used anonycard before the say they accept paypal? |
| ratleg | 12-17-2011 03:50 AM | is it safe to buy best buy electronic gift card by paypal? |
| J dub 1984 | 12-19-2011 03:57 PM | To the original poster...I dunno if you have a paypal debit card I always left one official paypal account in goodstanding and withdrew all funds threw that card added an email address temp/ to that business card /business account to get the liquid out. |
| J dub 1984 | 12-19-2011 05:14 PM | Knock on wood. Other methods I found useful or that were recommended for getting around Paypal. Intutit Go Payment and just had a former collegue mentioned another service called Square |
| BubbleTea | 04-20-2012 06:27 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 264940)
I wish this thread would be deleted and in it's place say : Just add a new bank account to paypal. | What if adding a bank account isn't an option?
You can't open a bank account in another country when you're not there.
And even when you are there, there may be problems for a non-resident to open a bank account.
There are many people outside US/UK who want a US/UK eBay account, because eBay is dead in their country lol!
It seems that everything has problems.
People here say that everything cannot work and will get the accounts linked and suspended.
1) Using a prepaid card/ moneycard
2) Using freelancer sites
3) Paying your own website
4) Sending funds to your main Paypal
Perhaps using the most direct and open way is the safest?
That is option 4 - Sending funds to another Paypal linked to bank.
Paypal can see exactly from where to where the funds are going and this openess may make them feel more secure and less suspicious.
As compared to operating like a snake and leaving many gaps for PP to fill in.
I think there are a few ways to make this transfer appear "valid" and unsuspicious.
1) Pay a fixed sum at the end of the month every month and state that the payment is for rent. I don't think paying your rent through Paypal at the end of every month is fishy. Of course, the amount has to be a rent amount and will work for larger sums.
2) Pay an irregular sum at semi-irregular times and state that it is for repayment of a personal loan.
3) Pay a fixed sum at a fixed time of the month and state that it is for the payment of nanny services (or whatever services). You can make this mid month if you are paying the rent end of month so you can spread out your payments and distribute cashflow.
You can also pay irregular payments at irregular times. Say that its for dog boarding, etc. You need to stick with the same service. Your main account person is less suspicious if he has just one occupation.
You can use all of the above for 3 different accounts paying into one account, but I don't think one account can wear many more hats.
So you can have 4 PP accounts with only 1 bank.
Then you need another withdrawing PP account and you can use the rent, loan and whatever services like dog-sitting, nanny, nursing, etc. These services have to be for personal service that are usually offered by people without a business can offer. Don't say a service like food catering, etc. that are usually run by a business because your account isn't registered as a food catering business, I'm sure.
What do you think of these ideas? |
| NoneOther | 04-21-2012 05:34 PM | The reason that options 1-4 are not recommended is because they have been proven time and time again to consistently lead to accounts being limited.
It doesn't matter how you try to 'dress' the payment up, they will get you limited eventually.
To take heed of more experienced users advice is part of the reason you joined this forum, is it not? |
| BubbleTea | 04-21-2012 09:01 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by NoneOther
(Post 333589)
The reason that options 1-4 are not recommended is because they have been proven time and time again to consistently lead to accounts being limited.
It doesn't matter how you try to 'dress' the payment up, they will get you limited eventually.
To take heed of more experienced users advice is part of the reason you joined this forum, is it not? | All the solutions ever being offered are options 1-4 and then comments to reject them.
For this topic, I have been reading lots of posts... all revolving around 1-4, only to get thrashed and say they can't work.
So in the end, there is nothing that works and it can't be done?
Because I have never come across a viable solution for this.
And if you have to get something done, you have to get it done, isn't it?
So if all roads lead to doom, then you'll just have to pick one with the best chances of survival, isn't it?
So... ... pick one.
Which is the best option.
Or tell me a better option.
:brushteeth: |
| moneyhustler88 | 04-30-2012 06:57 AM | hmm interesting |
The key is to vary up your activity. |
| First Edition | 04-30-2012 04:19 PM | If adding a new bank account to paypal isn't an option.... well, how do you think sending funds to another paypal account is an option? Doesn't that account need a bank account? Excuse my rhetoric... but I still stand by my original statement. |
| cainhoffman | 04-30-2012 04:53 PM | Just keep your money in Paypal. They will keep it safe for you, at least for 180 days :clap: |
| BubbleTea | 04-30-2012 09:03 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 336540)
If adding a new bank account to paypal isn't an option.... well, how do you think sending funds to another paypal account is an option? Doesn't that account need a bank account? Excuse my rhetoric... but I still stand by my original statement. | If you're having a eb and pp account in another country, you cannot open a bank account in that country...... at least not until you get there... and it may be very costly to get there.
You can send money to the PP in the country you are in, which is linked to a bank.
Do you understand the rationale behind the need for this now?
Your original statement does not solve such a problem.
No, don't suggest to open the eBay in the country you are in... there are obviously good reasons for not doing so but that's another topic. |
| BubbleTea | 04-30-2012 09:05 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by cainhoffman
(Post 336546)
Just keep your money in Paypal. They will keep it safe for you, at least for 180 days :clap: | Yeah... as safe as a dead body is in a coffin! LOLLLL!!!
:rip: |
| First Edition | 04-30-2012 11:00 PM | You could always move to that country, or open the bank accounts from abroad. |
| BubbleTea | 05-01-2012 05:55 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 336644)
You could always move to that country, or open the bank accounts from abroad. | Moving to that country - bad idea if your goods are in another country as there are much better ways to get around this.
Besides, I want to sell to many countries, not just in one country.
Opening up bank accounts in US, UK, AU from abroad is not possible for foreigners.
In fact, it is usually not possible even if the foreigner already has an existing bank account in that country. |
| Thankful | 05-01-2012 06:11 PM | Interesting thread this. |
| First Edition | 05-08-2012 08:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleTea
(Post 336968)
Moving to that country - bad idea if your goods are in another country as there are much better ways to get around this.
Besides, I want to sell to many countries, not just in one country.
Opening up bank accounts in US, UK, AU from abroad is not possible for foreigners.
In fact, it is usually not possible even if the foreigner already has an existing bank account in that country. | It is possible. |
| BubbleTea | 05-08-2012 09:12 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 339066)
It is possible. | Then pls elaborate.
If you tell me that you want to fly, I can also tell you it is possible.
And you will be like :confused::confused::confused:
Did you notice that I said from abroad?
It is not so difficult if you are in the country and I have done so in some of these countries.
Anyway, I'm doing some research on that now.
I suppose I can find a way if I really look hard.
Or find another way.... |
Perhaps best to PM BubbleTea. |
| goofball | 10-15-2012 12:19 PM | I have an alternative method to share as well, though NOT ideal, it has still worked for me.
I have in the past, for testing reasons, had paypal send me a check. It takes forever (took almost 2 weeks for me to get it).
The name on the check was not mine, (it was a business name) I took the check to my banks ATM, and made the deposit into my account this was way and it worked. The bank never questioned it. I had never made any deposit to this account using this name in the past either.
Again, not ideal, but perhaps another method to consider if your in a pinch about how to get it the $ out. |
| mercurial333 | 10-16-2012 03:42 AM | Would it work if you don't have a bank account attached at all? That's the only reason I see to use this method.
If so, isn't there a withdrawal limit if you don't have a bank account attached? |
| goofball | 10-16-2012 01:50 PM | I think the limit on single checks is 9999.99 (just under the IRS reporting theshold of 10K) however I don't remember for sure. Someone else could weigh in on this if they have the numbers handy, as well the info is readily available on pp web site. When I did mine the check was for about 4k and the bank in my situation attached was actually a netspend, Metabank card.
I believe they would send a check without a bank account available. I imaine this is in part why pp offers this option. However I'm not sure if the same amount 9999.99 would apply. |
| mercurial333 | 10-16-2012 06:17 PM | Good to know, will try it out soon.
Did you have access to the stealth address ? or did you forward the mail from the stealth address to your actual address? |
| goofball | 10-17-2012 11:48 AM | I had access. |
| John11uk | 10-19-2012 06:48 PM | There is nothing wrong with moving money from one PP to another. I move money from unverified PP accounts to verified and cash out.
Make it look like a sale, give PP those 3.4% to keep them happy, put a tracking number and you are good to go. I can see some saying now: No it will get your accounts limited. I've been doing it for over 2 months now without single enquiry from PP.
Use your imagination on creating "sales". I have 12 verified PP accounts to play with and spread "sales" between them. Don't use same amounts, try to keep them low and you will be fine.
People send and receive money frequently on PP and I don't see any limitation if you do it right. Think how most people send money on PP and how much and how frequently, this will keep you under PP radar.
High amounts are now usual activity in PP eyes and attracts their attention. Create as much accounts as you can to use them. PP has to investigate high activity due money laundering act. If you have more accounts you can spread your sales. :peace: |
| GreenBean | 10-19-2012 07:17 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by goofball
(Post 384453)
I think the limit on single checks is 9999.99 (just under the IRS reporting theshold of 10K) however I don't remember for sure. Someone else could weigh in on this if they have the numbers handy, as well the info is readily available on pp web site. When I did mine the check was for about 4k and the bank in my situation attached was actually a netspend, Metabank card.
I believe they would send a check without a bank account available. I imaine this is in part why pp offers this option. However I'm not sure if the same amount 9999.99 would apply. | No, the amount can be $5000 to trigger banks implementing their reports.
Many factors are obviously involved.
:juggle: |
Can you use Payoneer to withdraw money form your Paypal account? |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-29-2013 05:22 PM | Yes, but not in all countries. Works very well in the US, unsure what other countries can use it. |
| GreenBean | 07-29-2013 05:29 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 472192)
Can you use Payoneer to withdraw money form your Paypal account? | You set the account up so you can. Global Payments, Payout Services & Money Transfer | Payoneer
Read thro' their site.
It is explained in depth what to do.
If you read thro' their community forum pages, there are questions like this. It is answered for users.
Hope this helps.
:typing: |
| GreenBean | 07-29-2013 05:40 PM | If you looked at the date of the thread, the past posts were some time ago.
Payoneer was not being used widely.
Besides, talking about good alternatives too much is not always advised either.
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