PayPal will start holding funds for 21 days

DogFacedBoy · #23 01-29-2008

This isn't much different than telemarketers spoofing phone calls which there are currently bills in congress to make it a felony to do so

koalawash · #24 01-29-2008

It doesn't matter whether or not eBay uses proxies I would think. Couldn't their employees just look at the site at home anyway?

Ballsack · #25 01-29-2008

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Originally Posted by savahaganda

I think this whole paypal limitation funds thing is for huge transactions.... paypal does not want to get frauded out of a $2,000 sale. I can somewhat see putting a hold on full funds for something like that. But than again. such a transaction should be ok first, talkin about having your balls in a grinder

Granted but since when did that ever stop them from limiting an account when you tried to withdraw $100 after maybe doing a few hundred dollars of business? I can't wait till one of us comes on here to complain that their $50 is being held for 21 days.

imjustme · #26 01-29-2008

What I find strange and what I believe needs to be discussed is their "less than 5% of payments" sentence. So far, they told us that unless you have:

* Less than 6 months registered on eBay
* Less than 100 feedback
and some other things..

They MAY hold your funds. Whether in eBay terms that means they WILL hold the funds, we don't know.

Surely it's NOT only 5% of eBay sellers that have been registered for 6+ months and have 100 feedback. Surely not, I mean come on ...

So does it affect about 5% of sellers that have less than 100 feedback? Or is the 5% estimate those buyers that have less than 100 feedback?

topazcorp · #27 01-29-2008

Hey guys why don't we do like them and start banning people out of this site if they don't fax their life to Aspkin:D

imjustme · #28 01-29-2008

By the way, notice how they say if you have 20+ feedback and a detailed rating of 4.5 your funds won't be held?

Jonas · #29 01-29-2008

Ebay also likes ebay accounts older than 6 months.

But anyway, ebay also said DSRs of 1 or 2 will count as bad to you.

imjustme · #30 01-29-2008

Great, so a competitor can bid on your item. You can't leave him negative feedback, but he can leave you a DSR of 1 on each row, causing you to be a "bad seller" and having your funds locked up for 21 days on top.

Chris Hanson · #31 01-29-2008

Thats the point.. I bet paypal employees will start bidding on sellers item just to leave them neg feedback to have an excuse to lock up funds..

Its all a big game

Dutch · #32 01-29-2008

All these new restrictions take away from the business of selling without repercussion makes them (eby and PP) money and not you in the long run. I don't have these problems anymore outside of the ebay community. Even when my customers use paypal, they know what they are getting and without incident from ebay.

Ebay controls their sellers now. Sellers have lost their rights IMHO. I sell my Veros without incident without using ebay. No one buys Veros on ebay anymore when they can get it cheaper and faster someplace else and privately.

Not all auction marketplace sites that accept paypal want intrusive garbage from an ebay-owned site that is dictating the rules. Sellers need to get back to the business of running their own businesses, and finally leave PP in the gutter, and go merchant account.

ebay is no longer a trusted name.

Chris Hanson · #33 01-29-2008

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Originally Posted by ebayhateluv

CHRIS...Naahhh.. I think Everyones Over Reacting..
--Dont you think those high paid Loss Prevention people have to come up with something new every once in a while, to keep their jobs??
-- I mean for real-- the standard "Limitation, fax your drivers license is kinda old,,,for real??
-- A New Challenge, a New Day.. Thats all!
-- The Managers all have New Bosses coming on board- Dont you think they wanna IMPRESS??

yep and we are giving them something new to come up with..

Telling you everytime we come up with something new they block it within a month..

Merchant accounts, now this

Dutch · #34 01-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Chris Hanson

Thats the point.. I bet paypal employees will start bidding on sellers item just to leave them neg feedback to have an excuse to lock up funds..

Its all a big game

That is exactly what happened to me and I got suspended. I have been waving that red alert ever since. The "buyers" are dubious, and many are ebay staff itself.

The people making the real money are their employees with sellers accounts.

ebayhateluv · #35 01-29-2008

Very GOOD Point, Dutch.. Well Taken.

koalawash · #36 01-30-2008

Yeah it's like eBay kamikaze attack.. no way to defend.

EDIT: LOL not even that I guess.. I forget the buyer can't get neg fb's now.

ebayhateluv · #37 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Chris Hanson

yep and we are giving them something new to come up with..

Telling you everytime we come up with something new they block it within a month..

Merchant accounts, now this

Well.. we all have our own opinions, I know this much.. there are some Extremely Intelligent folks on this Forum.
- Whatever they throw at us, we'll overcome.
--BTW- if Aspkins Forum grows some more, Paypal + Ebay will have to hire more staff! Its Absolutely Amazing the ideas + sharing that goes on here!

-- I have been a member of the Rolex Forums for years, and thats BORING compared to in here.. (+ most of those folks own yachts + the like)

)

ebayhateluv · #38 01-30-2008

SAVAH- Always a Laugh!!!

) Breaks the ICE!

Chris Hanson · #39 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Dutch

That is exactly what happened to me and I got suspended. I have been waving that red alert ever since. The "buyers" are dubious, and many are ebay staff itself.

The people making the real money are their employees with sellers accounts.

Yep exactly. thats what i have been saying for months, but nobody wanted to believe..

koalawash · #40 01-30-2008

Well not really. I've known about eBay employees bidding on items for some time because it's happened to me before..

ebayhateluv · #41 01-30-2008

They are "supposed" to send you a courtesy email, advising you they are ebay employees, bidding on your items, its a generic email with their user id, and where theyre from, i.e. ebay canada, etc, I have had many over the years,, funny thing--- never sold to any, guess my reserves always too high for them?

imjustme · #42 01-30-2008

The question is, after the 21 days are up ..can you withdraw all funds immediately? Or will they slap you with a limitation if you try to withdraw say $1000 at once?

Ballsack · #43 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by ebayhateluv

They are "supposed" to send you a courtesy email, advising you they are ebay employees, bidding on your items, its a generic email with their user id, and where theyre from, i.e. ebay canada, etc, I have had many over the years,, funny thing--- never sold to any, guess my reserves always too high for them?

How can they interfere with your auction that way? Why are they getting involved in the bidding process?? They have to be breaking some law by doing this.

Chris Hanson · #44 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Jonas

Can you cancel their bids and block them from bidding if you get that email?

Or will they suspend you for doing that?

of course you can block their bids if you want, but if you do u already know they are going to mess with your account for the hell of it..