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Opening a new PayPal without SS#. Possible?
 

Once they do, any account you created is toast.

Two months ago, I created an account on Paypal and i didn't even have an ebay account yet. They limited it immediately and wanted my social.

If Paypal asks for your social, and if your name does not line up exactly with your social, and Paypal and EBAY are linked, then you are dead.

It appears to me that there is absolutely no way to ever use Paypal successfully. If they ask for SS, the account is toast. And if you change the address and give them the SS, they will link you to all your past Paypal accounts and all your linked EBAY accounts will get suspended.

Modee says it is a dead end, but merchant accounts are only practical for some.

Is anyone successfully using Paypal anymore (new accounts created this year)? Has anyone gotten around the dreaded request for a Social?

PayPal IS a dead end my man. Merchant account is much better and should be used instead of PayPal. It is not easy, because of verification, and setup. But it's a way to go.


You do have your W-2 don't you? Instead of your SS you can use company tax ID. I don't think it's legal, but I don't think anyone would come after you if you do. That's the only way that I see to use PayPal successfully, or you have mom, wife, aunt, father, friend, I bet you do. Make an account on them.

I think you are out of date...
 

last I read on this board, EBAY is not approving any new merchant accounts. So unless you have a way around that you are back to Paypal.

Extension, please do NOT say that paypal is a dead end. Paypal is the beginning of the new ebay, sooner or later in the US it will be required. Already in the UK and Auz paypal has to be accepted on listings. So it most certainly is not a dead end, it's a requirement.

Have to agree w/you ... pp is the mindset of eb buyers...like it or not.

We are just going to have to be very careful, share as much info./war-stories as possible & figure it out.

They only ask you to provide a SS # if you're in the US. Pack your stuff and move over here to Japan, nobody can ask you for a SS # here. :D

A lot of people will leave eBay if they need a social for paypal.

Apparently, Paypal is making this request on a ton of accounts already. And it kills them when they do because many are business aliases.

But Paypal doesn't care. If you read the thread on why EBAY is suspending so many and what their business model is moving towards, you will understand.

Requesting social doesn't hurt the big business selling through EBAY, it is just a way of nailing the little guy.

I had Paypal request SS on an account I just opened that wasn't even linked to an EBAY account yet a couple of weeks ago. I was like, BZZZZT. I just dumped the account. Screw them.

paypalsucks.com is having more relevance every day.

Thats why the best options are
1. A pre 11/07 account (No Paypal Required)
2. Invoice buyers from your merchant account, if they pay w/ PP, refund and resend invoice.

Right....
 

Agreed. Sad, but true.

Ironically, it seems stupid for Paypal to be so anal. Seems they will be losing business to merchant accounts unnecessarily if they do this.

But I think it gets back to where EBAY wants to be in the future.

Paypal is very easy for many. And the only way for some. I have a niece for example that loves EBAY and is 16. She isn't supposed to be on EBAY, but she loves it and got hooked (worse things to get hooked on). She can't get a true merchant account and she can't pay with a credit card (without alerting mummy). So paypal is all she has.

Even with all of its drawbacks, Paypal is convenient for many that cannot pay with credit card for one reason or another or that cannot easily get a merchant account. And the barrier to entry on the merchant accounts for the real small seller is just not worth it.

Yeah, besides the fees, Ccnow has been a great alternative for me cause people can use their precious paypal...

Ebayaintstupid, I'm 16, and I have a merchant account... so it is possible :)

But I agree with you that paypal is so widely used because it's convenient, and moreover, they market it as being the safest payment method around.

It's just a shame that sooner or later, they will bring the compulsory paypal rule to the US.

If they ask for S.S number. Get the number from a family member or friend that never used paypal before.And open a new account. I did it and it worked

Using a false SS# is ill advised...
 

it will only work if the name matches. If it does not and they run a check, you are screwed.

Using a false SS is a federal offense. Faking out EBAY and Paypal is sport. Don't get them mixed up.

As far as being 16, you bad girl. LOL.

mantisinc is female?

THing is paypal wants either SS or federal tax id. Your company has a federal tax id, either that or you can register a business. In one instance its id theft and in other it is expensive. I n both cases it is more expensive than a merchant account.

Opening a new PayPal without SS#. Possible?
 

Hello everyone,

I have a paypal account but my ebay account has been suspended. Therefore, I was suggested not to use the same paypal account, even though I changed the paypal email and removed the old one. My question is, now I am planning to open a new PP account but with a friend of mine's bank information. However, he is an international student here in the US and does not have a SS# or any bills sent to his house. He said, he could get a letter from his landlord to prove that he resides at that address. I will be asked SS# by PP in order to lift the $500 limit. Since he does not have a SS#, do you guys think PP will consider the fact that he is an international student and does not have a SS#?

Thank you.

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Here this will help you http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...ps-tricks.html

this link will not help you if you use us paypal. the only whay to do it is to open paypal canada account.
Remember no 1 problem is SSN. They won ask you if you have canada paypal.

Yes Canada PP is better but he is asking how to lift the $500 limit. So that link will work. All you have to do is 2 of the 3. So to lift the $500 just add cc and bank account and verify them.

How long before PayPal asks for SS#?
 

I have opened a new ebay and PayPal account and have been using them for the past 3 months. I lifted my initial $500 limit with PayPal and since I do a volume of couple thousand a week. I withdraw my money almost everyday in $200-400 amounts. I am just nervous still. How long before PayPal will ask for SS#? and for other documents?
what is the best way to get around if they ask for SS#?
Have a merchant account but didnt get it approved by eBay yet. I am just reluctant about that. any comments?

My Friend from past experience all it takes is a few dispute to trigger a limit account also if you do daily withdraws always remember that when pp system detects daily transaction also triggers them to call your number listed with them so be ready for calls also always try not to use debit card as CC for gas purchases the reason I say this is because any transaction thats done with the pp debit card use as CC in large amounts also triggers them to call for you to verify last five transaction Etc and if you dont answer call by x amount of time it will also limit your account because then think your card is lost so remember don't use the pp debit card as a CC always use pin debit transactions.For SS# Not Sure hope this helps you stay up longer ..

I dont even have a PP debit card( by the way what is the advantage to have have one?)
I have had about 4 disputes so far and I cleared 2 of them. Usually item not received claims. I also leave about $200 in my PP account at all times. They havent called me for anything yet. I pray that they dont...

Advantage of PP Debit Card take a look http://www.aspkin.com/forums/member-...heres-how.html

Correct way to start new Paypal account?
 

I opened a new paypal account yesterday with virtual name.

I opened a new bank account with ING Direct, and used one of my credit card that I have.

Today, I have this message:

# May 14, 2008: Unusual account activity has made it necessary to limit account access until additional verification information can be collected.

They're asking me to confirm my SSN, bank account, four-digit PayPal code for Visa Card, and Location.


How can I pass the SSN part with a virtual name?

You can't pass this......

I guess I have not really found out why this thread has been stickied.

The only answer to the thread's title I believe I have read in this thread is that a PayPal US account will not be possible without giving your Social Security number eventually.

My mistake was assuming that I would read the solution in this thread about finding a way to get a PayPal account without having to give my Social Security number.
I guess I was wrong.

It pisses me off that so many online businesses use PayPal.

verifying PP account
 

Nhan - Didn't you confirm your PP account before you started selling? if not, there's your problem right there.

Crafton - You DO NOT need a social to verify your PP account, you can do one out of three things to get verified:
1. Give them your social (not recommended)
2. Verify the two small deposits in your bank account.
3. Give them the 4 digit expanded use number.

Everyone here does #2 and #3.

ebayhateluv made a good post about this a few months back.

Here is is

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...ebit-card.html


Hope this helps

What's the 4 digit expanded use number?:confused:

Alternative SSN choices; EIN or TIN ?
 

Use of a EIN or TIN for paypal.

EIN = Employer Indentification Number (all employers) and
TIN=Taxpayer Identification Number (for foreigners with US income)

I am still in the information gathering and preparation stages of setting up my backup ebay and Paypal accounts.

In going through the forums I see that I may have a problem getting a paypal account limited. As part of the unlimiting process I see paypal will ask for a SSN. Now, I definitely do NOT want to give paypal my ssn. So I was reasearching other options.

The one legal option is the EIN, The IRS will give a sole proprietor (Indivdual) an Employer Identification Number if that person forsees having to hire. (Even if you only have to hire a nanny)

The process is easy, do it on their site or just fill out a SS4

The EIN is basically a SSN for businesses.

IRS rules say that an individual only can have one EIN at a time, but when that business is sold, the business is required to get a new EIN, and if the business is sold back to the original owner that person must get another EIN. So legally, you could run through a bunch of EINs.

The question, will a new business EIN satisfy paypal for the purpose of unlimiting an account? (note, I plan to register with paypal as a business)

anybody want to weigh in on this?

you cant leave neg feedback anymore as a seller:mad:

SSN and Corporation -- or?
 

If you have a legit Tax ID do you need a social -- will they still ask --? And for the DBA and Tax ID will that serve as a social or will they still push for that? It seems they are asking for socials very quickly now...
Thanks in advance!

No, they don't allow you use corp Tax ID. just SSN of the person the when first time you registered for that paypal account.

I asked this before and can't find where so I apologize for a 2nd request...

Question 1: If you do the EIN number they will still ask for a social? Right? But not as soon?

Question 2: I have a LLC company -- they will ask for the social on this I assume -- will they allow me to have more than one open ebay account under this once I validate?

Question 3: As a company will they allow me any more freedom at all?

Thanks!!

Thank you
 

Thanks for the info-- still learning-- I was such a dope and was looking at the first part of the forum rather than the last links every time! I better put my thinking cap on better than that at ebay! :) Great stuff and great help! Thanks to everyone!

I have a question, what prevent paypal from asking for SSN when you first sign up?
why do they wait till they limit you then they ask for it?
is it illegal for them to ask when you sign up?
I am only asking this because I fear the day they will start asking for SSN when you sign up, so I hope it will never come

EIN verification
 

Has anyone had or having experience with this before. I seen several people get hit with this recently as I did. Still able to take out money but for how long until they zap it. Thanks in advance.

Modee, is the method you are experimenting above... please do inform me of your results. And if your tests are successful... I will pay you for this knowledge!

me too modee