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Another victim! help needed desperately
 

Hi all, sorry to burden you and I am sure these questions are answered in the blog but I need immediate help as I am at work and no time to read all of them.
Problem is I followed the instructions and created my ebay account sveral weeks ago bought some stuff and built up my rating to 22 positive feedbacks and I felt it was time to open a paypal account and start selling again.
So last week I started selling sole ink crtridges and all was well and they paid me and then I sold a new laptop for $1400 and I received my suspension notice. I could have died. I verified my simon card on paypal and all that good stuff but I did not have a bank account. So now they want a bank account and my social.
questions:
1. am I dead due to the social security number thing? (is there a way around it)
2. If I do work through the social and I open an account I cant possibly open it under my ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name that I gave ebay and paypal so how do I open it?

Thanks folks I appreciate it.

Hi lisa,

Can you kindly clarify this, once you get limited the first time do you need to provide an SSN?

If you do the bank deposits and expanded use can you avoid the SSN requirement?

If SSN is inevitable then when likely do they ask for this, i.e. during first or second limitation?

Apparently Modee is working on a solution for the no SSN requirement for PayPal. THEY WILL ASK FOR IT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. It may take a week, or a month, but they will ask for it.

I think there is way to set up a Canadian PayPal, but you need an address and IP from canada and possibly Canadian government ID for it to work.

The SSN requirement makes it next to impossible to create multiple accounts - I hope a solution can be found to counter this.

yes I was wondering the same exact thing.
If we have the same ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, addy for ebay and paypal and then in a matter of weeks or months paypal asks for the SS# and bank info obviously you can't give the same ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info to open a new bank account and even if you could the SS# is going to be the deal breaker anyway.
also when you buy stuff unless you inform the seller you want it shipped to your real name, addy, not the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ one how are you going to receive items you are buying. I think you can say its a gift please send to (my real name, addy). :eek:
It just seems like the SS# is going to be the nail in all our coffins.
Even if you can get one from a dead relative you would have to use that persons name and start all over.

Would you be willing to discuss these techniques as part of your tech service. :)

I am new to this board but I have read EBAY STEALTH top to bottom a few times and I am getting a bead on how to set up a new eBay account after being suspended for life - for basically no reason except I was selling "high risk" items - that were 100% genuine! I know, you've all heard this before. Anyway, since eBay and PAYPAL are so closely linked -and eBay requires all new sellers to have PAYPAL - I don't want to get tripped up here. I was going to open my new eBay and PAYPAL accounts as Business accounts and use a made up name as the contact. The problem is that I cannot provide a SS# with a made up name if problems come up with PAYPAL. Should I use one of my kids names instead as the Business contact so I can produce a SS# if necessary? I will have my bank account also under this same Business umbrella (and under my kids name if necessary) - so I will be able to produce a piece of mail with the info on it if I get limited too. ( Been there, done that.) The only thing I will not be able to produce is a photo ID for the Business contact because my children are minors. I cannot find a link here that discusses the option of setting all this up as Business accounts. Is this a bad idea? I am getting ready to go to the bank to set up this new account but I want to do it right before I link it to a new PAYPAL account - which I will set up next. I think that I have everything else covered but with bank accounts - I will have to provide real, verifiable info - and if PAYPAL ever gets suspicious - I will have to provide verifiable info to them. How do they do this with a Business account? (I am going to open a Merchant account too - but I am under the impression that you have to have 100+ feedback before you can accept any other forms of payment than PAYPAL.) eBay is closing the gap.
cK

Make sure you read through all the "Sticky" threads posted at the top of each section.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...ber-no-no.html

You have opened a can of worms with the children question.
It is a heated topic here.
I for one would NEVER use my children for personal gain.
You could be blowing their chance to even have a paypal account.
I do NOT agree with using your childs SSN to get a PP account.

Using kids names for PAYPAL accounts
 

I don't disagree with you about how distasteful it is to use your children to by-pass this system. I had a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name all picked out and everything then I remembered that PAYPAL once restricted my account and would not re-instate it until I provided them with a photocopy of my SS#. I couldn't find mine and I tried to get them to accept another form of ID - but after much phone time - NO. I am going to start off this new account as a buyer until I feel more confident but I definitely want to sell too. I read that eBay has a new rule that you cannot receive payments by Merchant account unless you have at least 100 feedbacks. Otherwise, I would open a merchant account and not even deal with PAYPAL. I am just trying to look down the road at what problems might befall me and the SS# thing reminded me. I have practically memorized the eBay Stealth book and there isn't a lot in it about how to safely set up a PAYPAL account. I think that I have about everything else covered. I would never use my own name for a new PAYPAL account - even if I was only going to buy on eBay, because it is just too risky. This is a lot of work and I don't want to have to do it all again because I got linked. I am open to other suggestions.

You could just buy a pre-11/07 account from Modee and you won't have to wait to use a Merchant Account. Shouldn't have to fax eBay anything, either.
At least get a quote from him.

Can anyone tell me what info pay pal actualy see by SS#
I know the name has to match

but what else?
Age? ( what if the person is under 18? Can they see it)
Adress?

Another question
Can limits be lifted with time?
Say you open an account and sell, but keep it under $500 limit.
Will the lift ever?

Paypal can do a name compare against the SS number.

If they choose to do a 'hard credit pull', they will see anything that would be in credit reports. Addresses going way back, debts, date of birth, bounced checks, and a lot more. Thing is, they can't do a hard pull unless you authorize it. So, each time you opt to upgrade your PP or ebay... read the conditions EVERY TIME. Money Market - READ IT. Link your accounts - READ IT. Paypal Plugin - READ IT. Seriously.

Limits to not get lifted with time. If you keep your activity below 500 per month, you have nothing to be concerned about (sortof).

I see you added 'sort of. tbf, it would be safer to say to the newbies that they should be prepared to have their paypal account limited for nearly any amount of money. ffs, it's paypal and they limit accounts. :peace:

Yes. It's pretty much just like that.

If you only do a small number of transactions of low value, the likelihood of trouble is somewhat low. All it takes is a single $100 transaction. Maybe you sold 10 items at $10 each but try to transfer the entire balance of $100 - BAM! (most likely).

But, since it is Paypal... one single $15 transaction COULD get you. Several $200's you might be fortunate. Many factors come into play. For instance, if you live around Detroit or Youngstown, you'll have more problems. If you live around Fairfax VA or Rochester Hills MI, you'll have less problems.

Simple answer - General Rule: No SS, no removal of limits. Low transactions - probably no trouble, but no guarantees.

no activation code.
 

i am new here and yesterday i bought the ebay stealth ebook. i paid with my credit card.
but i made a mistake and entered an invalid email address
so i never received an activation code.

i have sent 2 emails to the support email of this website. but no answer.
i also sent a pm to aspking. a while ago.

now i am trying the forums to see if somebody can help me.


thanks

^^^ This gets handled by aspkin. Send him another pm and so I will as well. Don't worry, we will get the code fixed for you. And Welcome to the forum. Feel free to send me a pm if you have any problems.:peace:

if i create a paypal account in my mothers name and create an ebay account with a fiction name and link them will they close the account? of course i would provide routing/account number and then list my mothers name so that i could use her SS#. would they shut it down?

illey

Preferably names should match for ebay/paypal. Your aim should be to have everything in order to keep paypal happy. :ranger:

with the 2000 dollar limit and 500 withdrawal can one raise by having a real bank account in ones name since they dont check the name on account, then adding a ss number that matches name of stealth paypal account will that fly?

beetle,
Ya want to expand on your post 'specially about the ssn matching the stealth paypal name? :ranger:

500 and 2000 starting limitations and ss number to match
 

if your stealth paypal account is in another name and location, and you have a paypal account running and doing well also a stealth account same name and address you have a dilema you have not used the 500 dollar limit because you cant pull the money out but you can use the 2000 dollar limit to move money out made on ebay that way without using a bank account to verify or a ss number until limits are met however here is the problem, you get an account to verify if your real name since they cant see it with correct information can you pull money out that way without triggering anything, now the real trick when limitation hits or before it hits can one use ass number that matches the name of the stealth account? to pass ss verification? example stealth account pete smith ebay account pete smith bank acount mike jones(ie real name) ss number to match pete smith will it pass to lift limitations to lift limits to pull more money until the next hard limitation comes?this could give you more time to run the game if the ss number matches the name am i correct?

You guys have it slightly worse in the US. In the UK we DO NOT have to supply the equivalent of the SS number which is the NI number.

Thats at present.... could change......

So, as long as you confirm your account with a credit card, they will not limit you right? I want to be sure because I just opened up 5 newbie accounts....SO scared of this limit!! My items are expensive and I will $500 in NO time FLAT!

no SS in hong kong too

i thought that if you verified 2 of the 3 ways you didnt need to give the ssn?

So does just giving them a social still work to verify an account lacking a bank account?

It's not needed by me, but I've seen a lot people ask about how to make a personal account(not to be used for large/risky trading) without adding a bank.
I had no idea this was even an option. Does it at least require a CC+Social, or just a bald social?

I have not made any new accounts recently. However, if I recall correctly, all US Paypal accounts must have a bank account attached.

I think you are possibly confusing the bank issue about confirming the deposits.

You can add a bank account but not confirm it. Or you can add a bank account and confirm the deposits.

I am pretty sure that if you do not confirm the deposits, you cannot withdraw PP funds to the bank account and you can not add funds to Paypal from the bank account.

Thus adding a bank account without confirming the deposits would pretty much be a waste. You can do it, but why would you?

In summary, you must add a bank account. You should confirm the deposits.

Anyone who has contradictory info, please feel free to correct me.

Continuing on...

CC+Social should work, but you can't do much with the PP. Valid, but not very useful.

CC+Bank should work fine.

Bank+Social, more useful.

NOTE - At some point, PP will pester you for the SS# anyhow. And if you don't produce it, they limit the account.

If you plan on using it to process much money and/or if you plan on keeping it for very long - Plan for and expect to do the following: Add bank account, confirm bank deposits, add credit card, provide social, and perhaps do the expanded use procedure for the credit card.

They have not yet asked for my firstborn child. If and when they do, they will find themselves empty handed unless they can get a court order to exhume the body.

^ That's always what I thought. But then I read his post stating that a SS would verify an account. Useless for me, but I've seen it asked several times on other forums.
I've even replied that a back account was flatly required for a verified account because I thought it was.
I don't like disseminating misinformation :p

Well, most of Paypal is about as clear as Scottish mud.

I think for starters, you could open a PP account with the following minimum:
a bank account
{and}
comply with any 2 of the following - Social Security Number, Credit Card with Expanded Use, Confirm the amount of 2 secret deposits into your bank account from Paypal

But in truth, no matter which 2 you choose, eventually they will get around to weaseling all 3 out of you. They especially want your SS#, so if you don't do it at the beginning, expect a limitation soon. If you skip either of the other 2, they wait a bit longer before the limit comes.

And to be even more honest: If you conduct many transactions of small value or even a few transactions of higher value,they will get around to requesting some form of ID and also request proof of possession (inventory not demons). Proof of possession could be store receipts or supplier invoices (not a note from your mom or the head of your religious group). They do sometimes further ask you to provide a copy of your bank statement and your credit card statement. Sometimes a utility bill can be used.

There's a thread that mentions other things you can submit, as a substitute for some of the things they ask for. I've used my voter registration card, copy of my car title, birth certificate, passport, copy of hospital bill, marriage license, my ministerial credentials (I'm a monk and a reverend), my press ID card (I'm a reporter for the monastery newspaper and radio station), a copy of a speeding ticket (they agreed that nobody would offer a copy of a ticket for doing 130 MPH above the posted speed unless it really was genuine), my pilot's licence (rotary wing), my forklift licence, and my mechanic's license.

I have not yet tried providing them with a copy of my death certificate. I can't really predict how well that would suffice.

Hey Vic,

I was reading your replies above and wanted to ask about the SSN#. My accounts have been set up for a while now and I remember opening up my PP acount and had the option of using the SSN, which I could have, and still can.
I do lot of transactions of small value and I'm just waiting to log on to PP and get the limitation. Hope not! "Hope for the best and prepare for the worst", as the saying goes.

If perhaps I am limited will PP give me a certain time to enter my SSN that I have? If I do enter it, does ALL return to normal since they would have all 3 forms of ID? Or can I log onto PP right now and enter the SSN to get it over with?

Also, I apologize for interjecting into someone else's thread.

Thanks!
waterproof

I saw your PM before I saw this post. Thus, I answered you via PM.

If you think my answers would be helpful to others in this thread, please feel free to paste my response in here.

I don't think any of this matters anymore. Very scary, I'm an eBay power-seller, 12 years, over 700 positive feedbacks, verified phone, bank accounts, credit cards and address. PayPal account was limited a few weeks ago, wanted to verify address, I.D. and social. I supplied my I.D. and multiple address documents, wrote the a letter that I did not feel comfortable supplying them my social. I told them it's not required for a new user, why are your requiring it from me now. If there is an investigation of some sort on me, I would like to be informed of the details. I also told them I was a victim of financial fraud in the past and the financial institution made good on the amount of fraud, no where in your agreement do you hold any responsibility should my information get accessed or used in any manor. Well, shortly thereafter, I was informed that my account with them is closed and I can wait 180 days to get my funds. This is ridiculous! 180 days to get my funds!

Do you need to provide ss even if your just buying?

Not typically. But it can happen.

Buying, Selling or just looking for a tin can...you never know when you will be asked.

I specifically said "no pay pal".
 

did you say this in your listings? maybe thats the reason why you got limited? I know I have had the same problems. Paypal and nothing but paypal. do you have the guide? there is a nice text in there that you can use for buyers and also auctiva account!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=ihatebay;3902]My items are usually $150 or $100. I have a merchant account but I am not using them because ... well LONG story but basically I got suspended off Ebay and now they are saying that I can't use it on Ebay (b/c I got suspended but I can't use someone else's Ebay account AKA a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ named account) so now I am forced to make a website so I can reactivate my merchant account... THEN I will use it on Ebay, on my new user IDs.

But anyways, I am now using Google Checkout it's free!

I hate all these buyers who say "I prefer Paypal, or for security reasons I need to pay with Paypal" when I SPECIFICALLY SAID "NO PAY PAL". Seriously one of these days I 'm going to open up a new ID and list 50 items. For every buyer that says this BAM they get a negative.

And as of January 1st, 2011, paypal will require an SSN / Tax ID from every U.S. seller who makes over 200 individual sales OR $20,000. USD in total sales per year.

If you meet this criteria and do not provide your SSN / Tax ID, paypal will limit your account. And it doesnt matter how old the account is. This is due to the federal gov.s (IRS) new laws going into effect. 1099's will be required by Paypal and other merchant accounts/alternatives who have not required this info in the past.

wooo hope and change! :rolleyes:

They spread the risk...simple stuff.