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azil 04-03-2012 03:23 PM

21 day hold on funds??
 
So paypal is holding my funds for 21 day. This was for the first sale I made on my stealth account. Will they release it after 21 days? Don't tell me this will be for every sales. Sometimes buyers don't leave feedback then what?Pure BS

mrcvs1 04-03-2012 03:45 PM

Most new stealth accounts now start out at 21 day holds. If you want your cash sooner, ship fast and you should have your money 3 days after the buyer gets their product or sooner if they leave feedback.

rsot 04-03-2012 03:48 PM

Many threads on this - pretty random - might be on every sale, might not be...sadly it's the way pp works.

Cashew 04-03-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcvs1 (Post 327936)
Most new stealth accounts now start out at 21 day holds. If you want your cash sooner, ship fast and you should have your money 3 days after the buyer gets their product or sooner if they leave feedback.

For me, its 21 days to the day. even when they leave feedback
About 1 of 3 leave me FB

I have 2 accounts with this 21 day hold

i ship every item within 24 hrs with tracking on these 2 accounts and even when it shows delivered, they hold til 21 days

these accounts are 11 months old 100% pos fb

:deadhorse:

stanislav 04-03-2012 07:06 PM

For me it's always 21 days hold, no matter if they leave feedback or not. As far as I know you have to either get 25 selling feedbacks in order for 21 days hold to go away or at least 3 month after your first sale 21 days limit should go away.

mrcvs1 04-03-2012 07:20 PM

I've had every 21 hold payment be released 3 days after they received the item(s). I guess it's random for some people.

stanislav 04-03-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcvs1 (Post 328010)
I've had every 21 hold payment be released 3 days after they received the item(s). I guess it's random for some people.

Maybe it depends on what you sell? If you sell high risk they wont release is 3 days after someone gives you feedback. Also maybe it has something to do with price range too. If you item is expensive they would rather protect themselves with 21 days hold. Of course if you are selling something really cheap under 30 dollars they will probably release your funds sooner. But honestly I dunno... Are you using PayPal shipping labels ?

trader1510 04-03-2012 10:08 PM

I read the other threads on this subject, but its not clear that
Do they do this if sales are not thru ebay?
And if items are delivered with confirmation thru paypal, do I still need the feedback or can I get the funds released simply by calling them?

mrcvs1 04-03-2012 10:30 PM

You can call if the tracking confirmation says that it's been delivered but I don't know how Canada Paypal works. All I know is that when I ship an item and it arrives to the buyer, 3 days later I get my funds released which in total is 6 days after I ship. That in mind I ship all my items Priority Mail since all my items are over $75.

I rather lose a few bucks to get my money quick. Fortunately for me I usually double my investment even after shipping Priority Mail.

stanislav 04-03-2012 11:39 PM

I wish that was the case for us Canadians. I remember it used to be this way but so far I always get my 21 days hold. Do you think maybe because we have to actually CALL ebay? Only this way they will release our money? Do you call eBay or Paypal btw? And what kind of questions are they asking you ?

GreenBean 04-03-2012 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader1510 (Post 328047)
I read the other threads on this subject, but its not clear that
Do they do this if sales are not thru ebay?
And if items are delivered with confirmation thru paypal, do I still need the feedback or can I get the funds released simply by calling them?

'Off ebay sales' get 'held' to be checked.

Not a given that the funds are kept 21 days. paypal does look closely at off ebay transactions.

Simple reason is that far too many users decided to make their transactions off ebay to bypass existing holds there.

Not rocket science that paypal worked this out.:heh:

Ideally payments should be from varied sources.

Sandy D 04-04-2012 12:23 AM

I am getting money released a lot sooner then 21 days recently.

And I am not getting holds on off ebay items so far.

I tested it by selling a few things on craiglists and worked like a charm.

Maybe we need to get together and figure out how we can get a stealth phone to work on CL next so we can use pp if we have to.

makaveliagain 04-04-2012 02:58 AM

Yea, it sucks on new accounts. Just be happy you can even sell. Once you build up a history with Paypal and feedback on eBay it will go away.

GTB 04-04-2012 03:08 AM

provide a brill service and hope for the best

the hold are for scammers and idiot sellers who dont care

once they determine you are a safe bet,you should get them lifted eventually

BUT, the holds can also be put in place for other reasons like high risk items,poor seller performance,too many disputes just to name a few

no seller is immune from the dreaded holds of death

azil 04-04-2012 08:21 AM

I sold a used video game as my first sale for under $30 and paypal is holding funds for 21 days hahah not even high risk item or expensive still the hold is on. I won't be shipping through paypal shipping labels so I guess my hold will last 21 days or more.

Paypal wants the buyer to have the item in hand and doesn't give jack**** about seller. Buyer will get item but I won't have my money till paypal decides.

fu paypal

GTB 04-04-2012 08:27 AM

i feel you man......or i know how you feel :boink:@GB

means the same thing!!!:ranger:

something we all got to deal with

rsot 04-04-2012 10:10 AM

Try and coerce buyers to pay via other means than pp.

newjerseymax 04-04-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 328007)
For me it's always 21 days hold, no matter if they leave feedback or not. As far as I know you have to either get 25 selling feedbacks in order for 21 days hold to go away or at least 3 month after your first sale 21 days limit should go away.

I have an account that I sold nothing but non-branded products for 1 year. Finally last month I started selling only branded stuff, apple, Nike, Reebook, and much more. Suddenly after 40 of those sales I got email that 21 day holds removed. Makes no sense at all.. :confused:

GTB 04-04-2012 12:03 PM

i think of it like this.....it is a reps decision to lift them!

so you mite never get them lifted or you mite get them lifted straight away

too many factors to consider to worry about it too much

the rep may be a complete psycho and press the "DONT LIFT LIMITS" button without even looking at the account lol

point being...it is pointless worrying about something that is...in the main.. out of your hands

Sandy D 04-04-2012 07:46 PM

Another thing is I am noticing in a certain category I sell in I am getting no holds on any item in that category with 7 fb.

So I listed and sold another item in a different category for 12.00 and they held it.

Now I have found a soft spot to use for feedback builders and dont have to worry about getting shipping money into accounts as I build them.

MM78 04-04-2012 07:54 PM

Update: So Ebay had decided to be gracious with my account and bump it up to 20/$1,700. I just sold 12 items and didn't bother to really check PP until I was about to add tracking number and noticed that PP also was gracious enough not to hold my funds on all 12 items. I think this could be a start of a beautiful relationship. Also those feedback makers really helped.

JohnPublic 04-07-2012 01:13 AM

"This applies to items listed and sold on eBay.com, eBay.ca, and cafr.eBay.ca"


If paypal places 21 day holds in all countries why does it state that?

GreenBean 04-07-2012 01:29 AM

John,

what do you mean? :juggle:

JohnPublic 04-07-2012 01:43 AM

"As part of this effort, for some eBay sellers who are establishing a successful selling history, funds from their eBay sales will be pending in their PayPal account for up to 21 days before the funds become available. This applies to items listed and sold on eBay.com, eBay.ca, and cafr.eBay.ca"


It's like they are saying that 21 day holds are only placed on ebay.com and ebay.ca, but that is not the case.

GreenBean 04-07-2012 02:39 AM

Correct.

Never has been the case. :pout:

Have mentioned B4, holds can be applied in each country.

scrapdog2grand 04-07-2012 07:52 PM

I have no holds on one account - never did since day one, ebay motors.

another account gets the hold only if its an apple product.

And another just started to release the funds immiediatly, untill that - red flag, high risk - **** started this week, and now I'm back to the 21 day hold, but they are only holding funds for 14 days.

robpav 04-09-2012 08:20 AM

I have some 15 accounts ready for use but now when i read about those 21 days money holdups i'm not sure what to do. Is it related to some countries or all? My accounts are registered to:Slovakia, Slovenia and San Marino ( since those countries can withdraw to CC ).

rsot 04-09-2012 10:20 AM

Might have to test and teach rest of us robpav.

biggunn 04-09-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robpav (Post 329742)
I have some 15 accounts ready for use but now when i read about those 21 days money holdups i'm not sure what to do. Is it related to some countries or all? My accounts are registered to:Slovakia, Slovenia and San Marino ( since those countries can withdraw to CC ).

Seems to me like a lot of accounts in countries outside of the US, UK, Canada see 21-day holds on new accounts. Also, if you use a stealth name that can't be looked up in public information, I see the 21-day hold on these accounts as well.

robpav 04-09-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 329803)
Might have to test and teach rest of us robpav.

Yeah, will try it in few days. I just added a cards, about a week ago :(

robpav 04-09-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggunn (Post 329858)
Seems to me like a lot of accounts in countries outside of the US, UK, Canada see 21-day holds on new accounts. Also, if you use a stealth name that can't be looked up in public information, I see the 21-day hold on these accounts as well.

Hm all names I used are randomly selected ( well common name for a country + random common username :) ). Same with phone number, only address is real. Well I'll see how it goes :)

411guru 07-23-2012 07:28 AM

How long does the 21 hold last on old accounts? I just got the hold on a non stealth 2007 account.

jamcocktail21 07-23-2012 08:28 AM

I have an account with 75 feedback and still has 21 days hold

Have more accounts with 1-5 feedback and do not have any hold from the first sale.

One factor that you get 21 days hold is location

Just my 2 cents

GTB 07-23-2012 10:16 AM

location huh

what do you mean?

no holds if they see the address is on a posh estate or something lol

JohnPublic 07-23-2012 09:59 PM

Don't think you are safe after they stop doing 21 day holds. I received $5,700 in one account. Item shipped. Customer happy. Xfered money out after 21 day hold. No problem. Paypal sends e-mail stating no more 21 day holds. Then revived $3200. Xfered $2000 out... LIMITED!!! Refunded customers and closed the account then opened another one.

newjerseymax 07-23-2012 10:51 PM

With me they ago away on 1 year anniversary... So far 4 accounts went this direction. Have not had them back since....

ebaystinks1784 07-27-2012 09:34 AM

The holds go away with 100 feedback. That has always been the case with my accounts. They will come back if your paypal gets limited.

bchrist430 07-27-2012 10:25 AM

it different for everyone. acct. 1 year old, only fb @ 64 now, but no 21 day hold after i received maybe 15-20 fb

sax4 09-16-2012 12:32 AM

Any news on those foreign accounts robpav?

stanislav 09-16-2012 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcvs1 (Post 327936)
Most new stealth accounts now start out at 21 day holds. If you want your cash sooner, ship fast and you should have your money 3 days after the buyer gets their product or sooner if they leave feedback.

False ... Not true! Outdated information. Does not apply anymore.


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