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How much feedback do you need to stop the 21 day hold on PayPal??
 

I've heard 20, and I've heard 100.

Welcome!

Totally varies now.

It used to be past the 100 feedback thing, but now, its whenever paypal feels like it for the most part.

They even updated their conditions for removing the 21 day hold on their page -_-

Might work for some still though

If you can supply the answer to how long is a piece of string you might get the reply for the amount of feedback for avoiding the 21 day hold. :juggle:

Feedback is part of the issue, imo.

paypal is tending to look at accounts on an individual basis. They factor much more than previously.

Sellers must step up their game & operate their paypal in such a way to avoid holds.:juggle:

Can I know what are the new conditions?

In all fairness to yourself, you should read the actual words personally.

It's not realistic to have someone explain terms & conditions in case something important to you is missed.
Below URL is from paypal.com
Section 3.


https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?c...cale.x=en_US#3. Sending Money.

You can, of course set the country to whatever one you wish:ranger:

It sems that it is automatically lifted on the eBay side once 90 days have passed since first sale regardless of feedback level, but then PayPal can reapply the holds on their side at any time after that. That is the sticking point. Robbing barstwords. :ranger:

funny this

ive been on the blower to PP today to do a bit of ducking and diving

the "lady" say that PP 21 day holds are automatically removed after 90 days from the first sale

as im new to ebay i couldnt tell her that this isnt true

:eek:

Read my above post. It is correct in so far as eBay will stop instructing PayPal to apply holds, but PayPal themselves may decide to apply the holds on their own accord at any point thereafter. It could be around the corner on your first sale after the 90 days... so that you never even get to realise that eBay released you.

And this explains how when you register a "lucky egg" eBay account with no holds, the PayPal account does not automatically get them.

I think a lot of it has to do with time. I opened an account in December and listed the 10
item limit for December. Shipped everything out ASAP and got positive feedback on 4-5 of the items. January I again listed the 10 items limit. Shipped out 6 of the 10 items and my brother had an emergency in Florida that I had to attend to. I left for Florida Jan 16th also leaving about $800 in my Paypal account that I never withdrew. Some time around Valentines day I went to a library in Florida and logged into Ebay to refund the other 4 items I didn't ship for the month of January. There was a claim on 1 of the items and I refunded the other 3. I came back home to Maryland on May 16th and again listed 10 items. Sold those and received positive feedback on most of those. It seems like half the items I sold in May had the 21 day hold and the other half didn't. When I listed in June the 21 day hold was gone. I had the account for 6 months and a feedback score of only 16 and my DRS's were all 4.8 with one 4.7. I also called into ebay to try to get the selling limits raised before I listed the month of June and failed all the questions and it remained at the 10 item limit. Hope that helps... I met a girl last month and she just started letting me use her Ebay account to sell which is all 100% legit in her name. :hail: It was just a buyers account that I turned into a seller account with her credit card and bank account info. She has had the account for 2+ years with over 50 feedbacks from buying. When I listed it still started with a 10 items limit and the Paypal 21 days holds. I will keep you updated on getting the selling limits raised and the 21 day hold. I just listed 10 items on her account and immediately shipped so once I get positive feedback on all of them I am going to have her call and try to get the limits raised since it's all legit in her name.....

I also noticed that when I opened the stealth account back in December I started out with a 10 item $1000 limit and when she just turned her buyer account into a seller account with all legit info they gave her a 10 item $500 limit...

I'd like to say that the limits are also site specific.
I was selling stuff on UK eBay for over a year.
I sold in the Mobile Phone accessories category, as well as many other categories... no holds after the first 10 or so items.
Then when I started selling on US eBay, in the Cell Phone accessories category, I had the 21 day hold on all those sales.
At the same time, I had also sold on UK eBay same category and no holds.
After the first 10+ sales and after that hold period, I never got holds for selling the same things in that category again in US eBay.

Later on, I started selling on Germany eBay but not in the Mobile Phones category and I never got any holds from the first sale.
So, I think they have some sensitive categories where you may get holds for selling on an eBay site for the first time.

mine's puzzling me. so far i've sold 3 items (yeah, i'm taking it slow - ). 1st payment has cleared and is available, 2nd is being held, 3rd is available. PP was registered 2 weeks ago, verified about a week ago. any ideas?

@derbydave

Usual paypal procedure.

Until the account has some 'history' this will happen.

This does happen.

Your need is to prove the account will cause no grief.
:juggle:

We honestly cannot apply the UK terms to the US.

Just like with lifting the selling limits, the Hold policy is different in other countries.

I have been having good luck with these limits getting removed pretty quickly. The way i think i have achieved this was by using my phone.

very true, each country has it own policy.

sell

send

add tracking

when shown delivered then call and they will remove holds for those items

Take a hit on the postage costs/ profit margin wherever possible - UK sellers, my advice is ALWAYS send everything by recorded/ signed for delivery. Its deffo worth the additional 64p (or so) per mailing... get your receipt and immediately enter the tracking number into paypal/ ebay function. This has always freed my 'holds' money instantly. To avoid the bs*** scammers claiming they never received their items in the mail, this avoids those problems and I always send by recorded if the sale is over £10.

I just noticed that as well. I have an account that normally lists on eBay.co.uk, with over 5000 all positive feedback. It never had even a single negative or a dispute, in over 2 years. I tried listing on eBay.com today and got a hold on all payments. On eBay.co.uk I still get no holds.

So, the hold is indeed site-specific. Since I never had any sales on eBay.com, I now get holds even though I have over 5000 positive feedbacks. Ridiculous.

hello! from my experience I found that if you put the item in a "high-risk" category, the money will hold 21 days.
But if you make a few purchases (3-4) for example and sell the same item in a category not considerated "high-risk" the money will not be hold.
That was my experience.

Even if you have an old account, seasoned with great feedback, and low risk items... they can decide to put the payment holds in place. It is in their hands. I think they do it randomly now to audit people. Funds are released soon after delivery anyway... if cash flow is a problem, go get a loan.

Paypal has always worked for me... no period never on hold!!
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New account experience for me.

3 items sold. All non "high risk". First 2 payments held. 1 buyer marked positive feedback and that payment was instantly released. 3rd item had no restrictions.

So only the 2nd payment is held until the buyer leaves feedback I'm presuming.

This is great advice. Whenever I'm wavering- and internatational users note that postage costs in the UK went up significantly one month ago- I always just think "suck it up", because you KNOW the one time you try to save on that extra £1 per item or whatever to send recorded (and it does add up/take a toll on you.... it means you're always underquoting the actual postage cost alone so are just paying more yourself to send your item to someone, let alone getting the correct amount for it, or- common sense forbid- charge like a whole 20p more to cover your packaging/travel/tiny part of fees) it'll be the time you get the idiot claiming non-receipt or giving you grief.

I enter the tracking codes immediately into both pp and eb too, but the funds are not instantly released upon delivery of item. Sometimes they are, sometimes they;re not: I assumed it should be instant (tracking number shows delivered = trigers realease) but it's not. interesting info: when requesting a few holds released where delivery had been proven two days prior, reply from pp mentioned that holds are ususally (or often... something like that- "its the standard") released three days after delivery confirmation: i.e. when tracking shows delivered, probably only need to contact pp if holds haven't been released after three days.

can proof of postage. Be enough for funds to be released quicker or does it have to be strictly recored or tracking?

Proof of delivery can be enough, but most of the time they just release whenever they want.

How about proof of postage?

Absolutely useless (in eb/pp terms).
if anyone files a non-receipt case etc against you, you will simply get the "proof of postage is not proof of delivery" response from eb/pp, even if you can indeed provide the receipt proof.
Item has to be shown to actually have been DELIVERED i.e. RECEIVED at the address on file with pp.

100 feedback
 

I am in the USA, and since after hitting 100 feedback my account has not been placed on hold.

Before that I had a hold placed on my account on 2 seperate occasions. First time was because I was a new seller. 2nd time was because-so i believe- I let my account sit for a while with no sales and under 100 feedback.

Once the 2nd hold came into place, I immediately stopped selling on the account. About 30 days later the hold was lifted.

Paypal looks at a lot of criteria before placing the funds on hold. The 100 feedback is the criteria that usually lifts the Hold most permanantly in most instances. Time will also lift the hold.

Paypal is a pain in the ass, but after finding this forum I have gotten a lot more control over my Paypal processed payments. Thanks!

You can't really say what paypal does MOST times in this situation, because you are not paypal....

For me, I always post it & provide tracking info on both paypal & Ebay. As soon as i receive a positive feedback on that particular item, the funds are released immediately.

my funds do not get released even if the buyer leaves positive feedback....
this hold sucks big time, have to wait so much to get your money. i wait 21 days period, fb received or not. got about 15fb in my ebay account so far, but its only a few months old, hopefully it will change.

This 21 day hold is horrible

Keep on working at getting over the holds then :violin:

Lol when I phoned up pp they said the hold will always be there.
It looks like Ill have to buy an account

You were already told on the last thread that this is a lie. Why do you constantly ignore advice given?

Buying an acccount will not help if you operate it poorly and get a ton of disputes/complaints, or if PayPal simply decides to be a d*ckhead even when all is well, as they do 99% of the time. As I wrote previously, they will automatically be removed on the 90th day after first sale and since PayPal will take at least a few hours to "respond" after this happens (if they decide to reapply the holds on their own accord this time), you will in theory be able to get a few hours worth of "new" payments that will be unheld between the time of freedom and the moment of doom.

You are getting held by Satan again. He is making you misunderstand the real situation.

You are spinning yarns to compensate your shortcomings.


Holds are not always there. You were told that in another thread.


Buying a paypal account is NOT the answer.

The answer is WORK by you & not a hand out:deadhorse:


Earn the right from paypal to not have holds....

or dont sell on an ecommerce platform that has paypal:rip:

:pound: :pound:

How about a WHOLE NEW Approach to the Paypal 21 Day Hold thing, Since it is now pretty clear that this will be pretty permanent thing, why does'nt Everyone who creates a New selling account PLAN on their Money Being held for 28 Days, NOT 21, so this way if your money gets released sooner or Paypal takes the Holds Off your account completely you will feel like you Hit the Lottery, it is better that constantly writing theses posts complaining and looking for a way to circumvent the holds that does NOT exist, or is Costly AND Dangerous to your account/accounts

Hows that for a RADICAL Approach to this issue?

far out man :humble:

over the past 8 years or more i have occasionally been drawn in to the world of selling what i dont have

it was HARD ENOUGH with no PP holds to keep an account running in this way

but as slapped correctly states, you HAVE to plan on not having the money from the sales for 28 days or more

21 days they hold it

2-3 days to get it to your bank

another 2-3 days for stock to arrive from supplier

another day or so to pack

another 1-3 days to get it to the customer

thats ONE WHOLE month

buyers wont accept delays and accounts WILL die

trust me ive been down that murky road