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| poimo | 07-25-2013 02:30 AM | How many seller's feedback needs for 21days hold? I wanna know how many seller's feedback needs for no 21days hold
anyone know? |
| GreenBean | 07-25-2013 02:31 AM | Yep, paypal does.
:thumb: |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-25-2013 03:41 AM | No set rules for this. Anyone can have 21 day holds |
| GreenBean | 07-25-2013 04:04 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by poimo
(Post 470692)
I wanna know how many seller's feedback needs for no 21days hold
anyone know? | Like James stated, there are no set rules.
Is anything happening with your account that you ask this?
It differs between the countries too.
:mod: |
| Dmshark25 | 07-25-2013 04:11 AM | Yep , patience is the key to stealth don't worry about the holds eventually they will be lifted , work hard and ship fast
I'm in the states and luckily my items for in priority flat rate boxes and padded envelopes so I pay $5.15 and $5.70 I only do domestic everything arrives in 2-3 days and than funds lifted 3 days later
I try and ship same day if sale was on time so in 6 days funds are released |
@poimo, dont focus on bypassing the 21 day hold - focus more on keeping customers happy with fast shipping and quality product. Arrange your operations so you can work with the hold - over time, as your credibility is built, holds can come off...but can come back on too, keep that in mind |
| parker1608 | 07-26-2013 04:38 AM | By the new rules , most of country paypal hold 21 days , If it can ship before 3 days with tracking number and can be faster delivered , the funds will be available early .Australia account doesnt hold for 21 days , but it can not withdraw too fast , it will get limited or suspened , so it doesnt matter how many days hold ~ |
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Originally Posted by parker1608
(Post 471117)
Australia account doesnt hold for 21 days , but it can not withdraw too fast , it will get limited or suspened , so it doesnt matter how many days hold ~ | Not sure about this statement - seems like there is the hold also involved for Australia |
| keithy72 | 07-26-2013 07:50 AM | This is what I done in my stealths to get my money sooner.
When creating the listing on your new ebay page, explain that you are new to ebay but you will be providing A+ Customer service and that you will post same/next day etc and also on the listing state that you would really appreciate the feedback as soon as possible because you have lots of things to sell and you want other potential buyers to see that you can be trusted etc etc...
I found that most of my buyers left pos feedback very quickly in most cases, then as soon as you get a positive feedback paypal can release your funds, however they will not release it unless you ask them to do so.....So you send them an email every day or whenever you have a new positive f/b with all the new positive feedbacks you have received then they will manually release the funds for you. (You have to give them all the transaction details.)
I just sent one email and then kept replying every day with more funds that they would need to release, then after a few weeks they will get sick of you and realise that you are an honest ebayer and release the 21 day hold altogether.
I am of course just expressing my opinions from my own experience, no problems have been caused when doing it this way.
Good luck. |
Nice experience you are having - I dont send out these e-mails just to avoid unnecessary attention to my account but it does seem to be working for you. |
| GreenBean | 07-26-2013 05:04 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by keithy72
(Post 471161)
This is what I done in my stealths to get my money sooner.
..........
I am of course just expressing my opinions from my own experience, no problems have been caused when doing it this way.
Good luck. | If this works for you, then fine.
I prefer to not give away too much info or invite PayPal to " look" at my account. As for funds release I never chase them for that
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| Furious George | 07-26-2013 07:34 PM | established accounts with over 1000 feedback, FLAWLESS feedback still get hit with holds
You'll get an email when they don't hold the funds anymore.
Then you might get another one saying they're holding funds.
Then you might get another one saying they're not holding funds. |
| GreenBean | 07-26-2013 07:44 PM | @FuriousGeorge
Wait until you get the emails at the same time. Their own staff have issues deciding which one is valid.
Have to love paypal.
That movie Sleepless in Seattle has a rerun
Clueless with Paypal.
:FF: |
| Sandy D | 07-27-2013 12:07 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Furious George
(Post 471300)
established accounts with over 1000 feedback, FLAWLESS feedback still get hit with holds
You'll get an email when they don't hold the funds anymore.
Then you might get another one saying they're holding funds.
Then you might get another one saying they're not holding funds. | I have had this exact thing happen many times over the past year or so.
Eventually ending up with tons of accounts with no limits and no holds.
For me most of mine used to get the 21 day holds off around 90 days but anymore I am getting them oddly around 45-60 days or so.
Just got an account that is just a few days older then 90 days get no holds and no limits on sales which is rare.
All accounts are different and as I always state, ebay and pp love to just toss a dart and see where it sticks. |
| GreenBean | 07-27-2013 08:08 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 471363)
All accounts are different and as I always state, ebay and pp love to just toss a dart and see where it sticks. | On that basis I work my accounts.
There's always the chance of ebay/paypal 'landing' and making a mess.
:argue: |
| oompaloompa | 07-31-2013 03:19 AM | I age my accounts and sell slow til holds disappear and never ever had one after that.....I age them over 3-6 months, not that many fb needed sometimes as little as 5......it tells you if you will get hold on the auction when you press confirm on listing....so I test it with a few small listings and see if I am good to go for more exensive items.... |
| danshan | 07-31-2013 06:43 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 471363)
I have had this exact thing happen many times over the past year or so.
Eventually ending up with tons of accounts with no limits and no holds.
For me most of mine used to get the 21 day holds off around 90 days but anymore I am getting them oddly around 45-60 days or so.
Just got an account that is just a few days older then 90 days get no holds and no limits on sales which is rare.
All accounts are different and as I always state, ebay and pp love to just toss a dart and see where it sticks. | They send you an email telling you your holds are lifted? |
| Dmshark25 | 07-31-2013 07:05 PM | I never get emails , payments just start showing up as instant |
Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 472916)
They send you an email telling you your holds are lifted? | You MAY get an e-mail saying that holds are no longer applied - but not 100% a given - check status of your payments - they should up as available if no holds on |
| GreenBean | 07-31-2013 07:22 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 472916)
They send you an email telling you your holds are lifted? | Not always
:spy: |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-31-2013 07:27 PM | Not had an email for a while saying this. Just notice the funds becoming available. Tends to happen after 90 days of selling at the moment, but not always. |
| wasaby | 07-31-2013 07:37 PM | i have sold 9 items per 1 week, used the next day shipping
after the 10th deal, money were available after 2-3 business days after they were delivered.
Question: how much deals i should have to get money available before my items will be delivered to the buyer? 100-500- 1000 ??? |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-31-2013 07:38 PM | No set amount. Like I said, I notice it at 90 days of selling in the UK, but this is not always the case. Just a waiting game |
| Dmshark25 | 07-31-2013 10:00 PM | I have accounts that were just under 60 days old where the hold was lifted and and accounts that are 90 days and others over 90 days and still holds , so it's basically whenever Paypal feels comfortable with you which is probably a real complicated formula with derivatives..
Or they toss a dart up blind folded as I think SandyD mentioned |
| danshan | 08-01-2013 12:11 AM | Just curious did the accounts have minimum 26 transactions and over 250 in sales before the holds were lifted? |
| Dmshark25 | 08-01-2013 12:32 AM | Yea most did, just the one account that lifted the holds 2 months in so just off the top of my head it had 20 sales and $1200, but all the rest were at 3-4 month mark so they would of had 30-40 transactions.
I feel there's no set science in this, now that I have a large group of accounts most are little over 3 months of selling but some have a randomness |
| Dmshark25 | 08-01-2013 12:35 AM | Oh I just had one account the other day start accepting instant payments with 22 transactions 10 feedback and 3months old exactly |
| JamesNorth101 | 08-01-2013 07:32 AM | Had a couple recently myself that have not had any holds on the payments. Seems to be little patten to what PP does |
| GreenBean | 08-01-2013 08:07 PM | @JamesN'
:nono:
that is wrong.
paypal has a pattern that only paypal knows
:juggle: |
| john456 | 08-02-2013 12:59 AM | I only have 21 days hold on my US sales. For my UK sales, I get the money instantly. |
| Ebayorbust | 08-02-2013 02:05 AM | Yes, not every new account gets hit with 21 day holds. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by john456
(Post 473280)
I only have 21 days hold on my US sales. For my UK sales, I get the money instantly. | This isnt special to UK however - one of my UK accounts has holds from day one - low level sales though so havent had a lot of money coming in |
| igotsuspended | 08-02-2013 03:23 PM | An eBay representative told me that I need at least 25 sales before they can remove 21 days hold. |
| danshan | 08-02-2013 06:21 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by igotsuspended
(Post 473499)
An eBay representative told me that I need at least 25 sales before they can remove 21 days hold. | 26 sales over $250 in transactions within 90 days to release holds. I know i know it varies but this is the standard. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 473550)
26 sales over $250 in transactions within 90 days to release holds. I know i know it varies but this is the standard. | Essentially correct but holds can be placed BACK on by pp - known to occur |
| GreenBean | 08-02-2013 07:44 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 473550)
26 sales over $250 in transactions within 90 days to release holds. I know i know it varies but this is the standard. | May be described as a standard.
But it can be varied without warning.
Not hard and fast at all.
Typical paypal/ebay ( regardless of country). |
| igotsuspended | 08-03-2013 12:22 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 473550)
26 sales over $250 in transactions within 90 days to release holds. I know i know it varies but this is the standard. | It doesn't have to be within 90 days. It can be more or less depending on how fast you are selling. |
| danshan | 08-03-2013 05:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by igotsuspended
(Post 473755)
It doesn't have to be within 90 days. It can be more or less depending on how fast you are selling. | I dont agree with that other than the fact that pp can do whatever they want and do |
| danshan | 08-03-2013 05:38 PM | Normally you need over 25 items and over $250 in sales to lose 21 day hold. I dont think ebay feedback has anything to do with it although dsr's or negs could probably nix the plan |
| GreenBean | 08-03-2013 06:34 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 473801)
Normally you need over 25 items and over $250 in sales to lose 21 day hold. I dont think ebay feedback has anything to do with it although dsr's or negs could probably nix the plan | For UK users, intraction between ebay & paypal does have influence on holds.
Dont forget a rolling reserve can also be placed on accounts.
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