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Jetplanes 08-30-2014 04:37 PM

is 3k too much?
 
I need to sell my washing machine to pay a few things. Paypal and ebay are free of restrictions. I've received a few hundred dollars sales here and there also 1k once. Will a 3k payment raise red flags? like send in invoices and crap?

thanks

BigCJ 08-30-2014 04:40 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Yes...

dangerous amount.

Any other possibility of accepting another payment method?

JamesNorth101 08-30-2014 04:40 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
I would say there would be a high chance it will go into review.

How old is the account? Have you supplied EIN/SSN?

MM78 08-30-2014 05:24 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
$3,000 Washing Machine? Is it made out of Gold? :noidea:

rsot 08-30-2014 05:26 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quite the large transaction OP...how long ago did you receive 1k?

Jetplanes 08-30-2014 06:24 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Account is about a year old. I got the 1k for my macbook 5 days ago, shipped out and withdrew without a problem...

The thing is I don't have ss to give them ****ers :( but i need this money.

Jetplanes 08-30-2014 06:26 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCJ (Post 583724)
Yes...

dangerous amount.

Any other possibility of accepting another payment method?



what other payment can i use? when i try to list with "pay onpickup" it refuses and tells me i must use paypal

just_smile 08-30-2014 07:39 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
You have to 'offer' paypal.

But if you clearly state cash on collecton only, most buyers wont have a problem.

Infact, create a fresh stealth account, list it on that. Then if your buyer tries paying by paypal, you can just refund without fear of getting a defect or neg. Just throw the account away once the transaction is complete.

yankee 08-30-2014 07:55 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
That is fantastic advice just_smile! I have been doing this with high dollar items. ATVs, Autos, boat motors where 99% of the time it is cash in person.

jeffweico 08-30-2014 08:01 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
I agree, since you are obviously going to sell this locally, go for it. If the buyer wants to use PayPal, just keep on pushing for cash. If push comes to shove, tell the buyer you don't want to pay the 3% in PayPal fees and offer to accept PayPal at THEIR expense. My guess is that cash will quickly appear!

BigCJ 08-30-2014 09:04 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Cash is king.

If you can get that, go for it.

But BEWARE of a buyer insisting on paypal.

They will pick the item up and then open a case you are almost certain to lose because you have no proof.

jeffweico 08-30-2014 09:07 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
I didn't think of that. Why not prepare a receipt? You sign where it says received $3,000 and the buyer signs that he received the merchandise?

From my understanding, you CAN accept cash if a buyer picks an item up, but you have to offer PayPal as an option. Or am I wrong?

yankee 08-30-2014 09:11 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
You are correct Jjeff, also take a couple pics upon delivery and signiture of prrof of delivery.

Jetplanes 08-30-2014 09:59 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 583769)
You have to 'offer' paypal.

But if you clearly state cash on collecton only, most buyers wont have a problem.

Infact, create a fresh stealth account, list it on that. Then if your buyer tries paying by paypal, you can just refund without fear of getting a defect or neg. Just throw the account away once the transaction is complete.

Did everything you said, awesome advice man. Finally got the darn thing up and I don't have to worry about shipping!

Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 583788)
You are correct Jjeff, also take a couple pics upon delivery and signiture of prrof of delivery.

Yes this will be done also. Thank you all :clap:

SaiJin 08-30-2014 10:21 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Jet, the $1k for macbook may fly and you got lucky.

But for such large item with high value, I think that craigslist is better no?

I have sold $5k worth of TV on it once and it worked better than eBay

Jetplanes 08-30-2014 10:55 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 583794)
Jet, the $1k for macbook may fly and you got lucky.

But for such large item with high value, I think that craigslist is better no?

I have sold $5k worth of TV on it once and it worked better than eBay

Nah I seem to attract alot of scum off craigslist idk why :noidea:

masimo 08-31-2014 02:28 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
What's your selling limit?

just_smile 08-31-2014 04:14 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Jetplanes, if the buyer pays by paypal, DO NOT think you are covered by getting them to sign a receipt or takeing pictures. You WILL NOT be covered by paypal.

The buyer can simply claim it is not them in the photo. You could film the whole meeting from start to finish and it still wouldnt mean anything to paypal.

The only way that you should be paid for a pick up item is cash on collection or bank transfer.

yankee 08-31-2014 07:20 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 583836)
Jetplanes, if the buyer pays by paypal, DO NOT think you are covered by getting them to sign a receipt or takeing pictures. You WILL NOT be covered by paypal.

The buyer can simply claim it is not them in the photo. You could film the whole meeting from start to finish and it still wouldnt mean anything to paypal.

The only way that you should be paid for a pick up item is cash on collection or bank transfer.

This is NOT true at all but I personally only accpet cash in person these days.
Paypal will take ALL signed proof of delivery with eligible signiture faster than a "delivered to zipcode" USPS scan. Of course you have to do it correctly. No napkin contacts, lol

just_smile 08-31-2014 07:33 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 583877)
This is NOT true at all but I personally only accpet cash in person these days.
Paypal will take ALL signed proof of delivery with eligible signiture faster than a "delivered to zipcode" USPS scan. Of course you have to do it correctly. No napkin contacts, lol

Yankee you really can't do that. Paypals seller protection rules are clear.

Otherwise you could sell a 5k tv on ebay, get paid via paypal, withdraw the cash, then get your mate jack the lad from round the corner to come and sign your 'receipt'

It is easily open to abuse and that is why paypal do not accept it. There rules are in place for a reason.

rsot 08-31-2014 08:06 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
All very good ideas OP - especially the part about NOT expecting PP to cover your sale...PP is not 100% reliable.

Since you are likely to deal with the buyer in person...arrange the sale in this way

yankee 08-31-2014 08:31 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 583880)
Yankee you really can't do that. Paypals seller protection rules are clear.

Otherwise you could sell a 5k tv on ebay, get paid via paypal, withdraw the cash, then get your mate jack the lad from round the corner to come and sign your 'receipt'

It is easily open to abuse and that is why paypal do not accept it. There rules are in place for a reason.

You REALLY can! Call paypal and learn the facts.

yankee 08-31-2014 08:37 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 583880)
Yankee you really can't do that. Paypals seller protection rules are clear.

Otherwise you could sell a 5k tv on ebay, get paid via paypal, withdraw the cash, then get your mate jack the lad from round the corner to come and sign your 'receipt'

It is easily open to abuse and that is why paypal do not accept it. There rules are in place for a reason.

Yes the rules are in place for a reason! You must prove delivery to the SHIP TO ADRESS and if that is LOCAL PICKUP ONLY(like all of us who sell appliances, boats, motorcycles, ATV, HOMES, recreational vehicles, tractors, etc... This is very very common and YES it is 100% paypal's rules and policies. Call them and inquire.

just_smile 08-31-2014 08:47 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 583922)
Yes the rules are in place for a reason! You must prove delivery to the SHIP TO ADRESS and if that is LOCAL PICKUP ONLY(like all of us who sell appliances, boats, motorcycles, ATV, HOMES, recreational vehicles, tractors, etc... This is very very common and YES it is 100% paypal's rules and policies. Call them and inquire.

Perhaps the rules are different across the pond.

In the UK you 100% are not covered. Cars, boats and other vehicles are 100% not covered.

Can you quote the policies were it shows you are?

It just doesn't work. Refer to my example which shows the ease in which it can be abused.

yankee 08-31-2014 09:29 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 583930)
Perhaps the rules are different across the pond.

In the UK you 100% are not covered. Cars, boats and other vehicles are 100% not covered.

Can you quote the policies were it shows you are?

It just doesn't work. Refer to my example which shows the ease in which it can be abused.

Ummm.....Call paypal to confirm. It 100% works. It is paypal policy. When have you ever read delivery must be by UPS, FEDEX, etc or any other carrier? I am sorry, you are 100% incorrect. This is not a debate, I am stating facts directly from Paypal business center.
As for abuse of shipping, well, you can do that with any and all carriers if you want. I mean USPS says delivered to a zipcode and no signiture required up to $750.00

BigCJ 08-31-2014 09:32 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
OP. You are taking a big risk by accepting paypal then letting the buyer pick up.

You shouldnt have to call into paypal to get a clear policy.

At the end of the day, its an unnecessary risk that you are taking with the buyer and your paypal account. :ranger:

Keep control over your sales and tell the buyer how you wish to be paid. If they want it bad enough, they will comply.

yankee 08-31-2014 09:35 AM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCJ (Post 583938)
OP. You are taking a big risk by accepting paypal then letting the buyer pick up.

You shouldnt have to call into paypal to get a clear policy.

At the end of the day, its an unnecessary risk that you are taking with the buyer and your paypal account. :ranger:

Keep control over your sales and tell the buyer how you wish to be paid. If they want it bad enough, they will comply.

100% agreed.
It is very clear in paypal policy, but I am not going to waste my time reading it, copy and paste and take screenshots for something so silly, but for us who have local pickup, it is an everyday occurance. It is just common sense. A fairly local person buys something, pays for it and drives over to pick it up to save shipping cost. They sign for it, same as a walmart.com and target, etc... or a furniture store. :))

Jetplanes 08-31-2014 01:59 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Nah yankee. Everyone said no paypal on pickup which makes alot of sense. Why would I open myself to fraud like that when I could simply get cash on the spot? Anyone trying to buy my sh1t with pp then ask to pick it up gets reported right away :)

yankee 08-31-2014 03:12 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetplanes (Post 583979)
Nah yankee. Everyone said no paypal on pickup which makes alot of sense. Why would I open myself to fraud like that when I could simply get cash on the spot? Anyone trying to buy my sh1t with pp then ask to pick it up gets reported right away :)

I would NOT accept paypal for this transaction. I stated this right off.

yankee 08-31-2014 03:28 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Called paypal business center, since the launch of Paypal here, online tracking is required for all paypal transactions.
That now includes local pickups at retail stores. Paypal is insisting on paypal here for local pickups for protection.

I stand corrected!!

Jetplanes 08-31-2014 05:27 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 584001)
I would NOT accept paypal for this transaction. I stated this right off.

Well sorry I must have misread

rsot 08-31-2014 05:47 PM

Re: is 3k too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 584001)
I would NOT accept paypal for this transaction. I stated this right off.

You and me both, brother


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