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For those getting the 21 day hold on new accounts
 

I'd like to know what banks you are using.

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The 21 day hold has nothing to do with the bank being used.
Its standard operating procedure for all new paypal accounts.
The only way around it is a solid history on the account.

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Wrong again. It absolutely does. How do I know? I made two stealth accounts, both business. One I used Capitalone, the other TD. The Capitalone required a 21 day hold on a $25 payment. The TD one, I received $625 in three separate transactions and there is no hold. Both were made yesterday.

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Just to further clarify, the last 6 stealth accounts I've made, all with Capitalone, all had the hold.

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It has nothing at all to do with the bank....
It is EBAY policy, not even on the paypal side.

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This is what you will get when you click "help" and ask, Why is paypal holding my money


Here's what we found for "Why is my PayPal payment being held?"[ Previous ]
Hello, XXXXXX

It looks like you need to keep selling for a little while longer. Even though you registered with us on April 27, 2014, you just started selling with this account since September 01, 2014 . New sellers need to successfully sell items on eBay for 90 days.

Once you have fulfilled all the requirements in the table below, the money will be deposited to your PayPal account and money from future sales will no longer be held.

Where you are in the process

Criteria Your transactions Where you need to be
Number of days successfully selling 77 days 90 days
Total domestic sales $4,070.56 $250
Total items sold domestically 30 items 25 items

Tips on how to make transactions easier:
• Mark the item as shipped and add tracking information in My eBay.
• Use the eBay shipping label for discounts and to automatically upload shipping status and tracking info

Re: For those getting the 21 day hold on new accounts
 

That one account is simply you got lucky. Odds are open 1000 more accounts with any bank you choose and you will get nine hundred and ninety something more accounts with 21 day holds.

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Just cause theres a glitch in their system that released a payment doesnt mean the bank has ANYTHING to do with it.
Open a couple of more accounts and youll see for yourself.
Also, the 21 day hold can come back at any time and for any reason they deem appropriate so be aware of that as well.

Re: For those getting the 21 day hold on new accounts
 

Nothing to do with a glitch.

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Except I didn't sell through Ebay.

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When you ask for thoughts on issues, do youself a favor and supply ALL the pertinent details. :doh:

Answer some questions, please, about the paypals:

How old were the paypals before the 1st transaction?

Were they verified and confirmed?

What was the amount of the transactions?

What method do you use to access the internet?

Were the transactions invoices, services, purchases?

:ranger:

Re: For those getting the 21 day hold on new accounts
 

EVERYTHING to do with a glitch and youd do well to come off your high horse friend. As Yankee said - create a few more accounts and youll see the results yourself first hand. You cannot make a statement like the one you made based off one single account. We ALL had accounts like that - its a glitch. Nothing more.

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This myth of bank involvement is nonsense

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SO shut me up and try it for yourself. How about that?

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Already did as stated above. We all did.
Create enough accounts and youll come across a few that have that glitch.
Its the same as people creating ebay accounts now and a few come up with 5000/50,000 limits. Doesnt mean they did something special. Its just a glitch in the system.

Re: For those getting the 21 day hold on new accounts
 

You OD'd on jack-ass pills or something.

How about replying to my post?

:smash:

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'jack-ass pills' - Love it! LOL!

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:snicker:...................

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Maybe if you read my original post, some of the questions were already answered. I came here trying to help people and give suggestions, instead people bash me. That's fine, don't take into account what I've said. I just two more tests and guess what? None of them have holds.

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Your right about not getting holds, I have yet to have a paypal account receive a 21 day hold from an off ebay transaction, and I have used all different Banks, VBAs, prepaid cards, even unverified accounts

The one thing I think it could be do to is, I always use the accounts with eBay and have no more than 1 or 2 off ebay transactions a month, also my first transaction is always from eBay

I never just opened a paypal account and had its first transaction from outside eBay so that could be why I never had a hold yet, and I know others that also still have yet to receive holds when receiving a payment from an off eBay

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Well this is kinda funny. I just started banking with TD Bank. My eBay account has roughly 30 transactions, 2 months aged, and roughly 200 in sales.

I still have holds.

If you knew stealth you would know things happen such as glitches. Can you explain for us all why some BRAND NEW accounts get crazy limits like 500/50000 with selling 1 item? No, you can't.

Paypal and eBay are extremely glitchy and although we all usually finds limits can get increased rather quickly, 21 holds USUALLY don't get lifted unless its been 90 days, 250 in sales, 25 transactions. This is what happens 99% of the time, not 100%.

Your statements are false and don't belong on the forum. :nono:

Its one thing to say you got a account without a limit its another to say its a solution to the problem. :doh:

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It has to do with ebay, not paypal. Ebay issues the 21 day holds, and ebay releases their hold once you have a good account with good history.

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Your one time experiance cant' be use to draw conclusions. Glitches do happen on Paypal's side.

If you consistently get no hold on DIFFERENT paypal accounts with TD bank, then it's another story.

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And for the record - no one is bashing on you.
You came across as a Jack-a$$ so people called you on it.
Happened to me before as well so I know the feeling.
Conclusion (at least for me it was) - don't act like one and you wont be called out on it.

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Re-read the posts.


The OP has issues with OFF EBAY transactions.


It's not an ebay issue.

The issue is more than likely bank related.

I shudder to ask which captiolone account being used as there's little chance of a reply.

There are numerous posts on here about captiol one 360 being trouble.

That may have been a factor.

OP declines to say anything about his accounts so that's his loss.

:smash:

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http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...pital-one.html


http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...one-360-a.html


Since the days of ING, never a good choice of banks.

:peace:

Re: For those getting the 21 day hold on new accounts
 

Alright guys,

I did not mean to come across as a jack ass. Here are some points/facts, etc. The purpose of the post was to collect data to see if there was a pattern, that is all. I know plenty about stealth accounts, in fact I have made countless over the last 4 years. Out of those 1 in 10 would have any kind of initial hold, meaning starting from the first transaction. Rarely any. Up until a month ago, this was the norm, however at that point most of the new accounts were getting this hold from day one. I switched banks, made a few accounts, sold some off Ebay items and no holds. I do not sell on Ebay as much as I do in other ways. I am a web designer, so many of my payments come in as "services" or I send invoice's. This is why I use many stealth accounts. As far as selling on Ebay, I have separate stealth accounts for that purpose and most of them DO have holds. I understand that is an Ebay thing and not directly related to Paypal.

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I've use Capitalone 360 for a very long time with little to no issues. There are ways to make it work.

As far as this thread goes, my first account I referred to in post #1, I receive three off Ebay payments. One for $35, one for $55 and one for $500. No holds on any of them. The account was made that night. The other account was also made the same day. I received a $30 payment and it had instant holds. I understand that glitches happen, however, I made a new account for "test" purposes and that one also does not have an initial hold.

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I have various accounts, various banks. The only transactions that has ever had a hold on any of them is EB.

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Ok, so the 90 days, $250 in sales, and 25 transactions is an ebay standard? Where did this criteria come from? Do all 3 have to apply?

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It's policy, there is one post in this thread where they copied and pasted this policy right from eBay

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go to ebay help and type in 'paypal hold' and then read what it says, but to answer, yes, all three.

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Hello, XXXXX

While you establish your selling track record, buyer payments may be delayed. These funds will generally be available once:
- It’s been more than 90 days since your first successful sale
- You’ve had more than 25 sales transactions with US buyers, and
- You’ve had more than $250 in sales

Here are a few other reasons why your payments may be delayed:
- You have a Below Standard rating in your Seller Dashboard.
- You've started selling in a new category.
- Your account shows unusual activity, such as a sudden increase of eBay Buyer Protection cases.
- You need to add tracking information to My eBay or to an eBay Buyer Protection case.
- You can see the status of your funds in My eBay and find out what you can do to get your funds more quickly by clicking the button at the bottom of this message.

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The funny thing is this account did not have holds yesterday. I sold twice my selling limits last night and they added it lol
This account should have had a paypal limitation already. Nothing in that regard.

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I think it's a new thing with off-eBay PP transactions. It says this goes away after 60 days and $200 sales.
As for eBay there is always 21 day hold until 90 days from first sale, 25 positive feedbacks, and at least $250 total sales. After that you get paid right away.
It's also easy to get the money quicker, just use eBay shipping or upload the tracking number manually. Funds are released no more than three days after delivery. If you send stuff out fast you can get the funds in about a week, no need to wait 21 days unless you are not providing tracking info. Or if it's international order it ends up being almost 21 days anyway.
PayPal will release funds 7 days after delivery for an off eBay transaction.
So these 21 day holds only exist if you are not providing tracking numbers, otherwise it's much less.

Just trying to help, most of you know these things of course...

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In my muti-country experince,US account get longer to lift the hold,normally 60-100 days with selling feedback more than 30+.but UK account get much shorter,usually I found in 30-40 days with selling feedbacks more than 20+ they lift it. with euro accounts like france and germany there is no hold on new accounts at all..

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I made a group of accounts in August and the paypal holds are all lifted now, but what was a little different than normal they all lifted exactly 90 days of selling

In the past it was usually 100-120 days sometimes shorter but usually never before 90 and it was never exact like it has been all US PAYPALS

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Exactly - holds can come come back on as well - could be related to source of payments and buyer risk

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But here's a horrible thing that has been happening more and more recently.


paypal IS applying holds to transactions away from ebay.

They are changing their game daily.

:mad:

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Holds are also coming back on eBay transactions also more frequent , not always for every transaction and a long period of time, but it's,something I haven't seen before in the way I sell