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Does PP Seller Protection require signatures at $250 or $249.99?
 

As the title states - does PP seller require signature confirmation at $250.00 or $250.01?

I ask because I'm looking at selling $250 items and Im going to mark-down the price to $249.99 just to avoid paying the signature fee for every parcel I send out.

But, since I'm a little OCD about dealing in round numbers, I would prefer to have it be $250. Everything in my shop sends in a round number and it would bother me if I had an item at $249.99

Sorry for the ridiculousness of the question, but I'm ust curious.

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$750.00 :yar:

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The increased the limit a while back (good thing too)

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Amount now is $750.

Change was made months ago.

Why do you not want to protect your account for the sake of a few extra bucks for a signature?

:shhh:

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I still get a message about using signature confirmation and it's automatically checked off with items at $250

It has a little orange flag and they check off sig confirmation automatically

But I would use it regardless and really haven't bothered to hover over and read the message on the postage where the orange flag is, maybe now they just say it's highly recommended or something

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When I am in a better mood and have more time, I will give my reasons of why I dont insure and follow the paypal/ebay $750.00 policies.

Basically, I am independently insured by taking those fees NOT buying them and putting it into a fund.

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:rolleyes: nice yankee

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I'd still use a signature confirmation for anything above $200 myself.

It's more of an enforcing move, more than anything on my end

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This is the other side of ecommerce trading, imo.

Sellers need to take actions to protect themselves.

Does paypal offer protection? Yes. But it can be qualified and decisions may not go the sellers' way.

The other side to that then is to seek outside protection for sales.

It's called control and good business.

:ranger:

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They did raise it a while back. I will take the other members word about $750. I am with the other member who said basically anything over $150-200 for me I just tack on the $2.30 for USPS Signature confirmation. Its one of those things I would rather not deal with when a buyer gets all ticked off.

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That's a very good point - independent insurance rather than relying for seller 'protection'

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Just use it on any thing over 150.00 why take the risk

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Because there is no risk....Why $150? or $100? or $50.00? or $500.00?
The paypal and ebay protection is $750.00

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^^^ I agree with this.

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About the item amount $50 for priority is easy because it is included. Just for sake of hassle each have their own opinions. Usually anything over $150-200 I have signature confirmation. That is on the high end for me out of the normal. To each their own.

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I always get signature over 100. I think the whole signature insurance thing is a total joke anymore. I get sig but after a 500 denied item claim with the post office I will never give them another dime for any type of insurance. If I have something 300plus I will go to fedex as they dont break crap as much as the post office.. UPS sucks too, know someone close who said they just chuck stuff.

sig over 250 but it really doesnt matter if u hit a scammer the pp case could go either way. I do it cuz it makes you feel safe but pp and ebay cases anymore are a crapshoot

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Hey all I'm new to the stealth game, been selling on an account with my legitimate name for a little while though. I seem to recall that any items over $250 are automatically marked for signature confirmation when I print the shipping label from eBay. Has anyone personally tested the no signature for items over $250 but less than $750 and won the dispute with only the delivery confirmation number? I got burned a while back before I really knew what I was doing, because I shipped something that sold for a little over $300 without signature, but maybe that was before they changed the policy to $750, not sure when that happened.

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Yankee. If u think there's no risk with PayPal and ebay I have a bridge to sell you

What happens if 5 buyers open a claim saying not delivered tracking says delivered but they didn't get sum1 stole it let's say or they scamming you. Ok paypal will cover you but don't think paypal and ebay won't flag your account ASAP and you could be limited
If you making a decent amount of profit on the item just pay the extra fee to sign peace of mind

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I beg to differ. Sounds like we are not in the same level of selling.

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I guess you need to weigh risk vs reward and the type of buyers you are catering too.

I have yet to have a problem where a signed item was not received, but I'm also NOT OK with the delivery guy leaving a $500+ item on someones porch for anybody else to take (since it falls back on me ultimately). I feel a hot/trendy item (phones/new electronics) may entice buyers to claim it was never received to see if they can get away with keeping the item and their money. It's unfortunately that type of society we live in now!

Granted, I ordered a $1800 item from a website (not eb or amazon) before and UPS just left it on my porch :faint: I guess that site wasn't worried about what would happen!

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Or maybe they realized that 90% of the people are pissed off and will never order again if a signature is required and a 5% return rate because buyers are not available to wait around to sign for a package.

My guess they are like me and apply this very simple concept and make a salary or two more every year NOT buying insurance or having signatures. It is quite simply math.

Ship 10,000 $1000.00 pieces. Save on signature and insurance. $8.00+ per package. Loose one or two packages a year. Lets make it crazy and say it was ten scammed or lost packages.. Make an extra 60K-78K......
Not complicated or risky or rocket science.

This number applies bigger or smaller. Same sliding scale..

Now add it the ROI of the flip of that money and it gets interesting...

On ebay and paypal it is quite simple. If it less than $750.00 you are covered. The raised it to this because of the couple reasons I mentioned above.

By-The-Way, credit card chargbacks is $250.00

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Good point about the insurance cost too. $2.50 for sig doesn't seem like much but it adds up, insurance does even faster when the vast majority show up perfectly fine. May have to rethink those both.

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insurance is a total joke, read about the horror stories people have with USPS all the way to the supreme court with some of these claims. USPS sucks and they only want to refund people 50 bucks. I like their shipping speed and low rates but their insurance is a total joke. I will never buy it again and yes I buy signature on expensive items.

trust me once you go thru a USPS claim you will understand what I mean, they literally denied my claim after a month because they basically didnt get to it in THEIR required timeframe, and yes I fought it three times only going around in their stupid circle.

great place to ship cheap crap but anything expensive 400+ I will be going to fedex

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I ordered 4 PS4s when they were released, pre-order on Amazon, they were bundles and came out to around $1,500.

UPS left them all on my porch for hours until I got home. I've NEVER seen Amazon get signature for anything.

I also had a package marked delivered, that was in the neighborhood of $600, the package was nowhere to be found, either misdelivered or stolen. Amazon sent a replacement.

Amazon doesn't seem to believe signatures are worth the hassle.

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Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "credit card chargebacks are $250"? Are you saying if the buyer does a chargeback for an item over $250 and it was not delivered with signature confirmation, Paypal will make you eat the loss?

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Credit card chargbacks have very little to do with paypal. Paypal fights like hell to win chargebacks and they usually do, but no signature over $250 you loose. You loose against American Express almost every time no matter what.

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Lots of factors. Item value, tracking info, buyer history. Sales volume. If you update tracking info from USPS with D.C. and it says delivered then it is delivered. Is there a chance that it could be stolen, etc. Yes.

I literally had one buyer this year and I got a negative for it. I still think they tried to scam me. They told me the tracking says delivered I never got it. I told them honestly I have no idea in these situations where it says the item is delivered to know who is telling the truth. I hate to say this but I would file a claim against me under the buyer protection and you will be refunded. This is why my eBay fees are so high. Sure enough they filed got refunded it didn't come out of my pocket. But I got a negative saying I didn't do enough to help them.

I always tell the truth to the buyer and eat the cost if the item is not delivered. I have had times were it says out for delivery but never finally scanned in. I had to eat it and send another. But I simply refuse with the fees I pay for "buyer protection program" to be suckered into some jerk buyer because they know they have the upper hand.

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I see, so you mean CC payments not processed by Paypal. That's amazing that AMEX will still award a chargeback claim with signature proof of delivery.

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So Ebay ate the cost of the item? Is that typical when the buyer tries to say they didn't receive an item marked "delivered"?

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No.
It is if someone disputes a charge on the credit card no matter who processed it.

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Very difficult as a seller to fight back a cc chargeback

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Its happened multiple times for me. I am sure if the buyer has a history of doing this they will get booted quickly.