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golferman 01-28-2016 11:17 AM

Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
What the heck.
In rgards to this post
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...ed-advice.html


I shipped he item and the buyer said he didnt get it. This item was going to a reship

I checked the tracking and it says it was delivered in Newark,DE not New Castle,DE that i shipped it to. Here is the tracking:
Screenshot by Lightshot

I took pics of the label and video before I shipped and the address label has New Castle city on it

An agent signed for it which i assume was his reship agent

Something fishy is going on


How should I attack this because i know he is lying. I just need to figure out he did he get the package to go to Newark instead of New Castle? Newark and Newcastle are border cities

update:

Called the usps location there.

The stupid postal man accidentally entered in he wrong zipcode. They are updating the tracking number now to show the correct city and zipcode

maybe the postal man is in on the scam

BigCJ 01-28-2016 11:24 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
I read the other post and it seems like you will be out of your money.

You went ahead with the sale and he seems to know how to get your goat so to speak.

If hes in germany and using a re-shipper, then he wouldn't get it yet as it just got there today.

So he seems to know that he will win. Even with the scamming address.

Should have canceled the sale.

MM78 01-28-2016 11:28 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
No one listens to the MM......I said, don't do it! but something is fishy there. Can you contact the Post Office and ask why it was delivered to the wrong city?

golferman 01-28-2016 11:31 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
I contacted post office their. They said its a huge building and basically another department sorts it which is like 5 miles down the road different city but it was still delivered to new castle

They also said they had have tons of complaints regarding this

golferman 01-28-2016 11:41 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
update:

Called the usps location there.

The stupid postal man accidentally entered in he wrong zipcode. They are updating the tracking number now to show the correct city and zipcode

maybe the postal man is in on the scam

MM78 01-28-2016 11:42 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Hmmm, what about contacting the reshipper?

MM78 01-28-2016 11:43 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golferman (Post 742503)

maybe the postal man is in on the scam

Their not that smart!

golferman 01-28-2016 12:08 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 742506)
Hmmm, what about contacting the reshipper?

I contacted them before and they told me to reship to the address is fine. The owner is located overseas I suppose because he contact info was overseas number and address

golferman 01-28-2016 09:23 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
They said they updated the zipcode and can see the update on their "internal" website. The worker stated it would take 15 mins, I called back hours later then she said maybe a few hours. This was at noon and as of know it have not been updated on the external website


How long to I have to respond back to paypal dispute?

yankee 01-28-2016 09:31 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golferman (Post 742662)

How long to I have to respond back to paypal dispute?

10 days to respond.

golferman 02-02-2016 03:06 PM

I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not describe
 
I cant stand paypal!

So a buyer did a not received dispute, I uploaded tracking and everything that proves he got it, somehow after a week later he was able to change the dispute to a item not as described, after I provided proof that he had gotten the phone

So now instead of the item not received, I got a item not as described dispute. What gives. Its clear he is scamming and how was he able to change it

At first he said not received because the postal man entered in the wrong zip code so he knew he could win, once the postal corrected the zipcode on tracking, he changes his dispute to not as described

Nevermind: Apparently they are able to change the dispute reason in the claim

golferman 02-02-2016 03:11 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
WOW!! What gives with paypal?

So now after the scammer thought he could scam me since the zip code on tracking showed wrong city but now the postal service corrected it, somehow he was able to change his dispute to item not as described


How in the freaking hot mess is he able to change it to not as describe when he said he never got it in the first place

yankee 02-02-2016 03:18 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golferman (Post 743882)


How in the freaking hot mess is he able to change it to not as describe when he said he never got it in the first place

Alaways able to do this.

Call paypal and see if they can close the case over the phone.
If they feel it is buyers remorse, or the buyer has a history of doing this then they will close it for you.

You must be polite and clear as to why the buyer is a scammer. Also make sure they realize that the buyer is in Germany and could not have possibly inspected the item themselves.

frksmth 02-02-2016 04:19 PM

I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not ...
 
I've gone through this before - buyer opened not received claim, changed to to not as described and after losing that, he changed to unauthorised charge (pp). I lost the dispute on the last one - unauthorised charge (on pp). PP made me liable for the amount.

GreenBean 02-02-2016 05:51 PM

Re: I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not desc
 
Yep.... It is this sodding thing they do.

Buyer sweet talks paypal and seller is punished.

Have you called in?

Did you get ALL details about the phone..... and I mean ALL. ;)

Prepare to fight.

:mad:

GreenBean 02-02-2016 05:53 PM

Re: I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not desc
 
BTW, is this related to that reship mess with the German buyer?

:spy:

golferman 02-02-2016 07:32 PM

Re: I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not desc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 743911)
BTW, is this related to that reship mess with the German buyer?

:spy:

lol ofcourse

It looks like the buyer is able to change the reason because I have a dispute open and it let me change the reason if needed

golferman 02-02-2016 07:41 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Whats even more insane is when I uploaded the tracking the buyer still denied getting the package and escalated the paypal to a claim, once I supplied overwhelming evidence and even the postal supervisor number he then changes it to not described! But wait I thought he never got the package in the first place even when i showed him the tracking SMH

solefoodbk 02-02-2016 09:41 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 742495)
No one listens to the MM......I said, don't do it! but something is fishy there. Can you contact the Post Office and ask why it was delivered to the wrong city?

That's because your sarcastic in 99.9% of your posts. :rolleyes:

lol

golferman 02-02-2016 11:58 PM

Re: I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frksmth (Post 743899)
I've gone through this before - buyer opened not received claim, changed to to not as described and after losing that, he changed to unauthorized charge (pp). I lost the dispute on the last one - unauthorized charge (on pp). PP made me liable for the amount.

wow! so at first the buyer stated the item was not as described meaning buyer is admitting they got the package then he changes it to hey i never made this purchase

Unbelievable

vp.racer 02-07-2016 09:36 AM

Re: I cant stand Paypal! Byer files non receipt, after proof shown change to not ...
 
[QUOTE=golferman;743975]wow! so at first the buyer stated the item was not as described meaning buyer is admitting they got the package then he changes it to hey i never made this purchase

Unbelievable[/QUOT

We understood already - 4 posts with same information! It is not necessary to write it again! :deadhorse::heh:

golferman 02-09-2016 09:12 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
So the claim went from "being reviewed by Paypal" back to " requesting more information from buyer"

So i have to wait for the buyer to respond. I was hoping this claim would be finished by this week.

What could they need more from the buyer?

I called paypal a few days ago and advised them how when the packaged said it was delivered on usps tracking even though it said another area code buyer was denying he got it simply because he could easy scam to him changing his mind saying he got it after a letter and proof from USPS and supervisors phone number. He quickly changed to not as described

He stated it was one piece of paper in the box only

MM78 02-09-2016 09:23 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 743946)
That's because your sarcastic in 99.9% of your posts. :rolleyes:

lol

Wow.....hurtful bro.....hurtful.

Bunneh 02-09-2016 09:26 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golferman (Post 746111)
So the claim went from "being reviewed by Paypal" back to " requesting more information from buyer"

So i have to wait for the buyer to respond. I was hoping this claim would be finished by this week.

What could they need more from the buyer?

I called paypal a few days ago and advised them how when the packaged said it was delivered on usps tracking even though it said another area code buyer was denying he got it simply because he could easy scam to him changing his mind saying he got it after a letter and proof from USPS and supervisors phone number. He quickly changed to not as described

He stated it was one piece of paper in the box only


Okay... And what did paypal say when you called[emoji849]


I hope you realise almost every post is you repeating yourself.
People will stop responding to you eventually [emoji21]

golferman 02-10-2016 03:04 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 746115)
Okay... And what did paypal say when you called[emoji849]


I hope you realise almost every post is you repeating yourself.
People will stop responding to you eventually [emoji21]

im not repeating myself. i stating how the claim is going

paypal didnt say anything but toke notes down in the claim what i told them and they said they will review it


So now its back to being reviewed by paypal again today

Seems like paypal just want to help the buyer win the case


o and when i called paypal, they said they look at the buyers feedback and history to make a decision as well

So if the buyer has a lot of feedback which he does and buy a lot they will sway the decision in their favor

BigCJ 02-10-2016 03:24 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Its up to the buyer now and what their info says that if it sounds good to paypal

An actual person is putting this guy through is paces. Just be patient now.

golferman 02-16-2016 11:29 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Well I got an update yesterday. It was being reviewed by paypal, now its back to requesting additional information from the buyer for the 3rd time!
:mad::mad::mad:

frksmth 02-16-2016 11:30 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Paypal is most likely gonna screw you on this. Just be prepared for the eventuality (in case)...

golferman 02-16-2016 11:36 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frksmth (Post 748031)
Paypal is most likely gonna screw you on this. Just be prepared for the eventuality (in case)...

That is what im thinking. makes no sense at all

Paypal should not even trust buyer after he got caught lying..

yankee 02-16-2016 11:38 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
So, this is what to expect. Win the case and then get a chargeback and loose or have money held for 180 days or more.

golferman 02-16-2016 11:47 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Its back to being reviewed by paypal again

Its like they are finding a reason to give the buyer the case instead of looking at the facts and the other fact he got caught lying

golferman 02-16-2016 11:47 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 748034)
So, this is what to expect. Win the case and then get a chargeback and loose or have money held for 180 days or more.

Good thing buyer is overseas. They cant do charge backs in that country

I have no ideal if he paid buy paypal funds or card anyhow

yankee 02-16-2016 11:49 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
So, worst case scenario is he has to return the item for a refund. Then chargeback. I never heard of a country that VISA/MASTERCARD/AMEX does not have chargebacks.

The buyer is in Germany? I will have to google it I guess.

golferman 02-16-2016 11:54 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 748038)
So, worst case scenario is he has to return the item for a refund. Then chargeback. I never heard of a country that VISA/MASTERCARD/AMEX does not have chargebacks.

The buyer is in Germany? I will have to google it I guess.

In france they cant do chargebacks or it is a lot lot harder.

Had a friend in France who got scammed and he said they cant do chargebacks

Univerzal 02-16-2016 11:59 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
European bank when it comes to chargebacks = :noidea:

They can but laziness is thier motto

Univerzal 02-16-2016 12:35 PM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Autocorrect on iPhone must be made by evil gnomes :(

golferman 02-24-2016 02:03 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Well the good news is..........


I won the case!!!!!!!

Found out a few days ago Paypal ruled in my favor!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

frksmth 02-24-2016 08:56 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Awesome. Nice work!

rsot 02-24-2016 09:15 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golferman (Post 746111)
What could they need more from the buyer?

PP wants to prolong this out it seems - that's all

BigCJ 02-24-2016 10:33 AM

Re: Scammer scamming me. Ship to one city, tracking shows another city for delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 750132)
PP wants to prolong this out it seems - that's all

Uhhh...Rsot....He won the case :clap::clap:


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