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yeff 04-14-2008 01:41 PM

If anyone knows of a way around this can you PM me please, as dont want to lose another bank account if unable to verify the account with phone number.

Thanks

pauluss 04-14-2008 06:04 PM

Your UK database of landline phone numbers is listed in most cases with BT

Historically no one authority is responsible for collating ALL telephone numbers within the UK.

BT was the main source of telephone number information, (pre-2000) but their data did not include all telephone numbers from other telecommunication companies.

In 1999 an independent body called The Directory Solutions Unit was formed to collate telephone number information from nearly all UK Telecom's Providers, including

* BT
* Cable Companies
* Mobile Phone Providers etc

Directory Solutions are a sub-division of BT

It is the responsibility of this unit to collate all changes to UK Telephone Numbers - the database is called BT OSIS, which stands for the 'Operator Services Information System'.


With VOIP in the field is now in a big way - it has left matters wide open for eBay/PayPal to use this totally incomplete database to poke their noses and see if those registering/selling are who what they say they are

A system patch or automated call back closes a VOIP door quick sharp

Change your BT number or provider if you want to verify your landline for SURE

PAUL

simplyjimbo 04-16-2008 07:07 PM

Paul you sound kind of clued up about the telecoms industry, do you work in it or have you been researching.

I myself do work in the telecoms and It industries and agree with you that VOIP is big, it is that large that most corporations with an IP network will have VOIP pretty much fully integrated and more or less taking the main role of its telecoms service, I should know I sell and design many of them.

I will say this with OFCOMS desire to extend voip more into the home, and also with the Next Generation Network (NGN) telephone system to hit us eventually, you can pretty much say that ebay /paypals efforts to exclude anyone with an IP based telecom service will be a waste of time as they might as well also include anyone with red hair and blue eyes.

As many more homes will soon certainly be able to opt for what is called a naked DSL service, just like what some cable providers currently offer, (whereby an internet connection is the only incoming communication line for the location) the user will then be using something other than the traditional hardwired telephone service as their preferred telecom service, such a voip provider or a packet (IP) based telecoms service (ie NGN).

So if ebay and paypal think they are going succeed at restricting account sign ups based on that they only accept numbers from hardwired landlines is...well crap.

This kind of filtering / conditions of sign up will just lose them more business. They may dominate the auction area but they certainly cannot dominate modern technology, especially telecoms as we have enough wannabe associations for that including OFCOM.

Voip is usable it just needs the right methods to be applied and with the right provider

lywql 04-17-2008 01:52 AM

Is VOIP option still available for verification?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simplyjimbo (Post 36242)
Paul you sound kind of clued up about the telecoms industry, do you work in it or have you been researching.

I myself do work in the telecoms and It industries and agree with you that VOIP is big, it is that large that most corporations with an IP network will have VOIP pretty much fully integrated and more or less taking the main role of its telecoms service, I should know I sell and design many of them.

I will say this with OFCOMS desire to extend voip more into the home, and also with the Next Generation Network (NGN) telephone system to hit us eventually, you can pretty much say that ebay /paypals efforts to exclude anyone with an IP based telecom service will be a waste of time as they might as well also include anyone with red hair and blue eyes.

As many more homes will soon certainly be able to opt for what is called a naked DSL service, just like what some cable providers currently offer, (whereby an internet connection is the only incoming communication line for the location) the user will then be using something other than the traditional hardwired telephone service as their preferred telecom service, such a voip provider or a packet (IP) based telecoms service (ie NGN).

So if ebay and paypal think they are going succeed at restricting account sign ups based on that they only accept numbers from hardwired landlines is...well crap.

This kind of filtering / conditions of sign up will just lose them more business. They may dominate the auction area but they certainly cannot dominate modern technology, especially telecoms as we have enough wannabe associations for that including OFCOM.

Voip is usable it just needs the right methods to be applied and with the right provider

Confused because Mantisink says the VOIP phone option is now down the pan.... Anyone knows how to use VOIP to verify please answer here or email me lywql@hotmail.com I am in UK. Thanks.

dollybaby 04-18-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lywql (Post 36309)
Confused because Mantisink says the VOIP phone option is now down the pan.... Anyone knows how to use VOIP to verify please answer here or email me lywql@hotmail.com I am in UK. Thanks.

i think voipfone is just hit and miss, it failed for me on 1 paypal but it worked on the another, someone else on here has said the same.

Sora 04-19-2008 09:39 PM

Hey yeff, I am stuck on this too, going to do some research and let you know.

One question why you didn't register it with your work address as well?

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeff (Post 35088)
Hi, yes I tried to confirm my address with phone number at work, but got the message that ater checking available databases the number did not match the address I had registered. So now they are sending a letter to the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address.


silver_surfer 05-02-2008 12:25 AM

I've read that with Paypal voip is hit-or-miss, is this the case with using voip with ebay as well?


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