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ravenv12 01-18-2016 02:04 PM

seized by customs
 
I ordered some Android / handheld game console and my items were seized by customs the shipment came through DHL DHL told me to contact the agent seriously I've never had this happen or least with something like this
Anybody has any input on what I should do I would appreciate it

JamesNorth101 01-18-2016 02:10 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
If you set your flag it will make it a lot easier to see where you are from :)

Are these items branded at all?

Is it possible the value was under declared?

They are the 2 main reasons for customs getting involved

ravenv12 01-18-2016 02:14 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Don't know I don't think they would be bonded items. All they are is like cheap handheld game console things from DHgate. Should I call the agent or chop it up as a lost. If it was DVDs I would never ask lol


and flag

JamesNorth101 01-18-2016 02:23 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
You bought them so you must know if they are meant to be branded or not...

If its just meant to be a generic handheld game then I would talk to the agent. Chances are they have been undeclared to save the exporter fees that they are charged in China

ravenv12 01-18-2016 02:36 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Yeah I was just trying to make sure that is not illegal to import handheld generic game consoles

phaz0rz 01-18-2016 03:06 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
^^ Definitely not illegal to import generics.

The package may have been under-declared or the packing list may have fallen off in transit. Both would be valid reasons for a seizure if the shipment wasn't illegal goods. If DHL isn't able to help you, you should be getting a certified letter from customs in the coming days telling you who you can contact.

ravenv12 01-18-2016 03:15 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
DHL actually already told me who to contact there is a cop / custom officer they told me to contact but he will not answer the phone to me

phaz0rz 01-18-2016 03:17 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Could be because it is a holiday. Regardless, the certified letter will have at least an office telephone number where you will be able to reach someone.

ravenv12 01-18-2016 03:20 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Thanks everyone for their input guess I will just sit back and wait now

phaz0rz 01-18-2016 03:21 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
I wish you the best!

For what it's worth, I think you'll be able to retrieve your order after you jump through some hoops.

ravenv12 01-18-2016 03:25 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Hey I'll be happy to get my order as long as I don't have to pay $500

JamesNorth101 01-18-2016 04:03 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
You may well need to pay the actual import taxes on the goods if they have decided that they have been under declared

Depending on the value of the good that could easily be $100's

phaz0rz 01-18-2016 04:58 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Don't worry OP. It would have to be a massive order to cost $100's in taxes. You said "some", so I'm assuming we're talking about a relatively small order. When my supplier declares a value of $500usd, I pay right around $40 in taxes. Over half of the $40 is DHL's "deferment fee" for paying the taxes for me when the package came through customs. So the tax for bringing a $500 order into USA is about $14.

Now if it actually does happen do be under-declared, there's no telling what number customs would calculate as the actual value. Hopefully they don't say it's worth thousands.

ravenv12 01-19-2016 01:25 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
The guy said they are counterfeit PSPs that they had trademark logos all over them

JamesNorth101 01-19-2016 01:39 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Not going to get them back in that case they will be disposed of

rsot 01-19-2016 01:45 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 739593)
The guy said they are counterfeit PSPs that they had trademark logos all over them

Well there it is - looks the brand did get identified. Counterfeit PSPs are popular and heavily flagged. If you provided your address for shipment, you address might be flagged by customs for future deliveries so be aware.

ravenv12 01-19-2016 03:09 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Yeah I used my address. Not the first time I've had stuff seized but I figure importing handheld game consoles would be not something that would get seized. The seller is trying to get me to agree for me to reship the item when I used to import stuff before usually it would get seized before leaving China and sellers would reship item. But the seller has been very rude and nasty so should I just ask for a refund don't want him to send me an empty box

JamesNorth101 01-19-2016 03:17 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
You have been caught doing this before and you carry on doing it?....

You can usually expect a letter from customs when you look to be a repeat offender. They may well take action against you

Importing handheld games consoles is fine. Importing ⊗⊗⊗⊗ PSPs is not, and I get the feeling that you knew exactly what you were importing

Why exactly would you expect the seller to give you a refund? You imported dodgy gear and you got caught

phaz0rz 01-19-2016 05:11 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 739609)
Yeah I used my address. Not the first time I've had stuff seized but I figure importing handheld game consoles would be not something that would get seized. The seller is trying to get me to agree for me to reship the item when I used to import stuff before usually it would get seized before leaving China and sellers would reship item. But the seller has been very rude and nasty so should I just ask for a refund don't want him to send me an empty box

Good luck on getting anything out of the seller. Just about every listing on DHGate has fine print saying "seller is not responsible for customs clearance" or something similar. If you get something seized then that's on you.

It was not a good idea using the same name and address as you have on a previous seized shipment. That could be the reason your order got opened this time. Customs keeps a log of offenders and they have been known to block shipments destined for blacklisted addresses. There's one guy I sell to who used to import all his stuff from China, but he's now forced to buy from me because anything he tries to import gets seized.

ravenv12 01-19-2016 05:40 PM

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To me they don't really look like PSPs other than the shape they are called pxp... and secondly I've never used this address before was living somewhere else

MM78 01-19-2016 06:49 PM

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I just looked these up and they do in fact look "like" a PSP....the fact that they even "sort of" look like a PSP AND are named almost the same "PXP" is enough for customs to hold them. Don't count on getting these back, move on to something else.

GreenBean 01-19-2016 06:53 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 739593)
The guy said they are counterfeit PSPs that they had trademark logos all over them

Confiscated items now.

Going to be destroyed.

Get a new supplier and be more careful next time.

Do not trust your Chinese friend with purchases.

:nono:

rsot 01-19-2016 06:53 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 739609)
Yeah I used my address. Not the first time I've had stuff seized but I figure importing handheld game consoles would be not something that would get seized.

Live and learn I guess - you are playing very dangerously with using your home address for these kind of shipments - regardless of your "figuring"...

unkown5454 01-19-2016 09:23 PM

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always glad to see the truth come out. classic thread hiding the real BS. you deal in ill.eg.al goods. cry me a river

rsot 01-19-2016 10:27 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
I want to try out a PxP - do they play the PSP games?

just as a sidenote I'm saying.

ravenv12 01-19-2016 10:57 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
I'm not crying about anything I just figured that was not something bad but I guess I figured wrong. And also is the PXP does not play PSP games it has built in games. Does anybody know if the retro consoles have the same issue importing those ? Just looking for something extra on the side to sell. I do a lot of buying and selling of game consoles and games I have a quite large inventory

cmbhuy 01-19-2016 11:00 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Never use DHL for fluffy bunnies

ravenv12 01-19-2016 11:04 PM

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Yeah one of the people that I used to buy stuff from over in China said that he would not use DHL.......... But the seller that I got the game consoles from only use DHL for large shipments

unkown5454 01-20-2016 01:08 AM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 739772)
it has built in games.

that are pir.ate.d


the only legit gaming consoles on your chinese wholesale sites are android garbage.

BigCJ 01-20-2016 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbhuy (Post 739773)
Never use DHL for fluffy bunnies

How about dont do 'fluffy' business in the first place? :suspicious:

Jigsaw 01-20-2016 10:39 AM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 739609)
Yeah I used my address. Not the first time I've had stuff seized but I figure importing handheld game consoles would be not something that would get seized. The seller is trying to get me to agree for me to reship the item when I used to import stuff before usually it would get seized before leaving China and sellers would reship item. But the seller has been very rude and nasty so should I just ask for a refund don't want him to send me an empty box

If the seller on dhgate refuses to refund you then you can simply open a dispute with dhgate and let them know the parcel has been seized by customs. As it has been seized due to counterfeits, it is the seller's responsibility. Do not throw any letters you received from customs as you will need to send dhgate that info for evidence.

JamesNorth101 01-20-2016 11:02 AM

Re: seized by customs
 
The buyer knew what he was buying.

He got caught

It seems like its happened a fair number of times before...

pimpin624 01-20-2016 02:21 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
It seems you clearly knew what you were getting yourself into and are now upset you made poor decisions.

ravenv12 01-20-2016 03:57 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpin624 (Post 740018)
It seems you clearly knew what you were getting yourself into and are now upset you made poor decisions.




I've already said I don't care. I just did not know it was an item that would be red flag. But it would be nice if someone would answer my question about the retro gaming systems if they have the same issue on importing

phaz0rz 01-20-2016 04:05 PM

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Why does everyone have to post comments insulting the OP which contribute nothing to the thread? The guy isn't upset, he's not trying to make people feel bad for him, and he understands the package is gone. He also isn't asking for any illegal advice. He's just trying to figure out what his options are moving forward with his business. There's NO NEED for the cavalry to ride into the thread on their high-horses.

OP - To answer your question. I don't know what kind of "retro" game consoles you are talking about, but if they are trademarked then you run the same risk as last time. If you import the generic android pieces-of-crap, you would be fine. Regardless of what you try to import moving forward, I would use a different name and address. Anything you import with that shipping address now will be subject to increased scrutiny from customs.

newjerseymax 01-20-2016 04:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 740063)
Why does everyone have to post comments insulting the OP which contribute nothing to the thread? The guy isn't upset, he's not trying to make people feel bad for him, and he understands the package is gone. He also isn't asking for any illegal advice. He's just trying to figure out what his options are moving forward with his business. There's NO NEED for the cavalry to ride into the thread on their high-horses.

OP - To answer your question. I don't know what kind of "retro" game consoles you are talking about, but if they are trademarked then you run the same risk as last time. If you import the generic android pieces-of-crap, you would be fine. Regardless of what you try to import moving forward, I would use a different name and address. Anything you import with that shipping address now will be subject to increased scrutiny from customs.

Totally agree! Lets help OP get on the right track. It seems the bashing on here is getting out of control lately. Lets not be PC commandos. How about we treat each other with some respect.

JamesNorth101 01-20-2016 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 740063)
He's just trying to figure out what his options are moving forward with his business. There's NO NEED for the cavalry to ride into the thread on their high-horses.

His business is importing counterfeit DVDs and PSP's...

Its people that sell these sorts of items that
A - Drive prices down on eBay
B - Make it a lot harder to sell said items for genuine sellers
C - Make a lot of people assume what your selling on eBay is not genuine.

If it was a one off genuine mistake that is fair enough. Most people have been there and done that by mistake when starting out. Doing it over and over again though is a different ball game.

Importing unbranded generic retro games consoles is not an issue so long as they are declared correctly

MM78 01-20-2016 04:54 PM

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My Favorite is when people don't give you all the facts....then little by little all the truth comes out.....in the meantime they act like they are the victim, that pisses me off.

rsot 01-20-2016 05:06 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenv12 (Post 740060)
I've already said I don't care. I just did not know it was an item that would be red flag. But it would be nice if someone would answer my question about the retro gaming systems if they have the same issue on importing

Anything branded can be subject to seizure - retro or current....especially from China

GreenBean 01-20-2016 05:27 PM

Re: seized by customs
 
Walk the walk.

Talk the talk.

:ballchain:


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