Anyone think accounts are linked by facial recognition?

[sam999]

If accounts are created with new phone, IP etc, old / other address but request facial recognition of that same person when converting into a seller, does anyone know if this would link the accounts together, has anyone run into this?

Thanks

[rsot]

When you say old address, do you mean just a reuse of the address or same and registration info too?

[sam999]

No I mean an old address on credit history file that hasn't been used before with ebay.
All fresh details but reuse of face.

[rsot]

Hmm I feel that the facial recognition alone won't link accounts - it would take more coding to match up facial recognition and I doubt eb wants to invest in that. It's easy to match name and dob and other details when it's textual info...

[sam999]

The eBay privacy policy states that they store geometric face data though so that sounds like it would be a data hash.

[Camaro2SS]

Absolutely biometrics data will be linked if you use the same face to create a new account. They save your biometric data for 3 years.

[solefoodbk]

Originally Posted by rsot

Hmm I feel that the facial recognition alone won't link accounts - it would take more coding to match up facial recognition and I doubt eb wants to invest in that. It's easy to match name and dob and other details when it's textual info...

They don't have the tech to do this, it's just paranoia. Phones themselves need you to do multiple selfies from all angles. The amount of money it would take to store this data and cross reference is not plausible for any of these marketplaces. They have hundred of millions of users. If you factor for dormant accounts also.

[bluefin02]

No facial recognition is to match your face with your ID

[rsot]

Originally Posted by solefoodbk

They don't have the tech to do this, it's just paranoia. Phones themselves need you to do multiple selfies from all angles. The amount of money it would take to store this data and cross reference is not plausible for any of these marketplaces. They have hundred of millions of users. If you factor for dormant accounts also.

Right on - feels way too advanced and code heavy

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS

Absolutely biometrics data will be linked if you use the same face to create a new account. They save your biometric data for 3 years.

Outside of selling platforms I feel like this shouldn't be allowed.
Imagine a police state and what your data will be used for.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Outside of selling platforms I feel like this shouldn't be allowed.
Imagine a police state and what your data will be used for.

If servers are housed in a country not particularly adept with safeguarding of personal info, you can only imagine...hmm

[Camaro2SS]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Outside of selling platforms I feel like this shouldn't be allowed.
Imagine a police state and what your data will be used for.

Agreed queen !

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS

Agreed queen !

*flicks hair with a smirk*

[Camaro2SS]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

*flicks hair with a smirk*

HUGS !

[Nimble]

platforms like eBay, Amazon, and payment processors don't just have a human looking at your selfie. They use third-party KYC (Know Your Customer) software like Jumio or Onfido. When you do the facial scan, the software creates a biometric mesh of your face and checks it against their database.

If your face/ID is already in their system tied to your main account, the AI will match it to the new account. It’s an automatic red flag for a duplicate account, and the system will link them together right then and there.

If you are trying to run a genuinely unlinked/stealth account, the golden rule is that you cannot use the same biometric data or ID twice. Most people get around this by having a trusted family member, close friend, or business partner agree to be the "face" and director of the new account, using their ID and their selfie.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Nimble

If you are trying to run a genuinely unlinked/stealth account, the golden rule is that you cannot use the same biometric data or ID twice. Most people get around this by having a trusted family member, close friend, or business partner agree to be the "face" and director of the new account, using their ID and their selfie.

Have you already given your Id to eb or always been stealth?

[agent006140]

f you are trying to run a genuinely unlinked/stealth account, the golden rule is that you cannot use the same biometric data or ID twice. Most people get around this by having a trusted family member, close friend, or business partner agree to be the "face" and director of the new account, using their ID and their selfie.

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It is not that simple,the seller used his ex wife.girlfriend and the relationship ended in a non amiable manner.
The person you rely on died,and his estate is now in limbo,heirs and/or tax authority want a piece of his Ebay pie.
Or you dont know his password and cant get into the account,or you just cant get into his account because you are not 'him' or you log in from a different country.
Or he gets an audit from IRS and he spilled the beans,and you get an audit as well.

[Nimble]

Originally Posted by rsot

Have you already given your Id to eb or always been stealth?

Yes in the early days I did give my ID when my real account got mc011, I submitted legit documents but still permanent selling restriction. I made the early mistake of trying to create new accounts under family members names but using the same address which were also banned due to being linked.
It has been hard toil to figure out what works on eBay nowadays.

I was using a stealth account, then converted to my own name, which was fine for about a month, then a spike in sales and they requested just the ID, I gave my ID and it was banned instantly, since then I do not submit same IDs.

I did submit a Subject Access Request to eBay to find out what data they hold on me but I didn't get a response.

[Nimble]

Originally Posted by agent006140

f you are trying to run a genuinely unlinked/stealth account, the golden rule is that you cannot use the same biometric data or ID twice. Most people get around this by having a trusted family member, close friend, or business partner agree to be the "face" and director of the new account, using their ID and their selfie.

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It is not that simple,the seller used his ex wife.girlfriend and the relationship ended in a non amiable manner.
The person you rely on died,and his estate is now in limbo,heirs and/or tax authority want a piece of his Ebay pie.
Or you dont know his password and cant get into the account,or you just cant get into his account because you are not 'him' or you log in from a different country.
Or he gets an audit from IRS and he spilled the beans,and you get an audit as well.

It is far simpler than you think, I don't need to go into detail, as concepts of stealth can be applied to a real info account and all the reasons you mentioned are too easily avoided, I speak from my experience and the UK platform.

Even with the new concept of eBay reporting to the tax authorities, it is still possible to play the game, if you know how.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Nimble

I did submit a Subject Access Request to eBay to find out what data they hold on me but I didn't get a response.

I could see them being callous with this request, unfortunately

[Nimble]

Yeah, if I had time to waste then I would chase it but can't really be bothered/lazy.

[ft16]

Originally Posted by Nimble

I did submit a Subject Access Request to eBay to find out what data they hold on me but I didn't get a response.

I did one myself about 5 years ago, lots of hoops to jump through for basically a list of all my listings, orders and messages to customer support, nothing like the amount of information they really hold.

From what i remember I had to give them a passport scan and after about a month I got a phone call from a polite guy who gave me a URL and dictated a long password to access a zip file containing the data.

He was very apologetic and said most people expected to find out why they were suspended but that was never disclosed.

Complete waste of time