How i want my set up to be.... need advice.

[AllAboutStealth]

I want to make 10 ebay accounts, i have read the Stealth Book a few times already but run into a few questions which im hoping you guys could help me out with.... I will be opening a land-line with 10 phone numbers, i will have 10 bank accounts all under my name 10 prepaid credit cards, 10 random addresses and 10 routers .....

My first question what is the best cheapest router i can find?....

I would like it for router swap technique recommended by the ebay Stealth Book.

Second question is on page 10 it says keep a log of your IP address, i know i dont have to since i will have a router for each account but just to be on safe side and ask do i need a log of my IP adress? If yes why?

Third question is that it says for names use someone elses info, i dont want to i want to make name variations of my own name or a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, but once asked for SSN what will i do for those accounts? will i provide them all with my real SSN? If they ask for photoID should i provide all accounts pictures of me?

thats what was unclear to me i would like to make all 10 of these accounts POWERSELLERS.......once i reach an amout of 15k gross then i will need help with taxs etc because i am only good in finding the right products to sell for good price and providing excellent customer service.When it comes to things like taxes i have no knowledge about that sort of stuff at all.

Please help me start my business as soon as possible guys id really be thankful for your replies

[SUVE]

Q&A

1.You don't need 10 separate routers. Better options exist. Reconsider this approach.
2.You keep a log of your IP addresses to prevent a cross match/cross link to a previous EB/PP A/C.
3.Hint....'doing business as' approach. Research this further if this remains unclear to you.
4.You need to speak to a tax specialist in regards to your taxation question.

I'd suggest you rethink your entire approach here & actually just setup one or two EB/PP A/C to better understand the ins & outs of this whole thing.....at this moment in time you are trying run when you are barely able to crawl.

Better to put the horse before the cart & roll from there.

The ultimate end decision & risk are yours though.

[AllAboutStealth]

Originally Posted by SUVE

Q&A

1.You don't need 10 separate routers. Better options exist. Reconsider this approach.
2.You keep a log of your IP addresses to prevent a cross match/cross link to a previous EB/PP A/C.
3.Hint....'doing business as' approach. Research this further if this remains unclear to you.
4.You need to speak to a tax specialist in regards to your taxation question.

I'd suggest you rethink your entire approach here & actually just setup one or two EB/PP A/C to better understand the ins & outs of this whole thing.....at this moment in time you are trying run when you are barely able to crawl.

Better to put the horse before the cart & roll from there.

The ultimate end decision & risk are yours though.

1.Like what? I want the routers because i wouldnt have to change the MAC address everytime instead just have a router for each account.... It also prevents me from acidently putting in a MAC address i have already used and wont have to keep a log of the IP addresses if i make sure to use the right router for each account (tape on router the ebay user name/ ebay name)

2. If i have separate router i wont have to keep a log correct?I would just have to make sure every time i log off my user account to swap the router then log into the user account assigned to the ebay/pp

3.DBA seems really legit but in the book it says that recently you can not use the EIN as a SNN, on my banned account i have used my real SSN :/, and how many DBA's can i have under my name?

4. Thank you once i realize my income is enough to talk to a tax specialist i will do just as you advised

[GreenBean]

If you earn $50 the that is enough income to speak to a tax professional.

Start small to earn big

[AllAboutStealth]

Isn't the law that on online selling has to have a gross over 20k to be taxed?

[jamcocktail21]

Wow i see you got huge plans....

Well you read the book,that's great but the most exiting part is practice,so my advice to you tart small as GB mentioned and stay at least 2 hours a day on this great forum and you'll see unbelievable results and all your questions will be answered

Good luck

[JomJarr]

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth

Isn't the law that on online selling has to have a gross over 20k to be taxed?

In the UK, just the intention to sell to make a profit means you need to pay tax on it.

Maybe you're thinking of something like capital gains allowance? That is different.. if you intend to make a profit on something as a business, then straight away you pay tax on it .

I'm not a tax expert though so please seek proper advice.

[slapped]

How about this Why don't you create 1 Stealth Account First, Get a Feel for it,,,I GUARANTEE that you will Modify your approach,,,

Remember the Book is only a GUIDE not a Concrete set of instructions,,,there may be a simpler, Cheaper Way to achieve your goals,,You may find for example that a Landline phone with 10 Numbers is a Little Excessive, not to mention 10 Seperate routers,,Slow down a Bit,,,thats the REAL Key to Stealth,,,Slooooooow and Eaaaaaasy

[rsot]

slapped is right on the point. Begin at one.

[AllAboutStealth]

Originally Posted by slapped

How about this Why don't you create 1 Stealth Account First, Get a Feel for it,,,I GUARANTEE that you will Modify your approach,,,

Remember the Book is only a GUIDE not a Concrete set of instructions,,,there may be a simpler, Cheaper Way to achieve your goals,,You may find for example that a Landline phone with 10 Numbers is a Little Excessive, not to mention 10 Seperate routers,,Slow down a Bit,,,thats the REAL Key to Stealth,,,Slooooooow and Eaaaaaasy

I have 3 stealth accounts... idk if they are considered stealth or no but what i do is go to my gfs house give all her info tell her to spend time on ebay search things she likes and ill buy for her in exchange she herself would have to list my products(i make her do it because if i do it might raise a flag because id know exactly what to do on a new account)........ , same at my sis house same at friends house, use all there info SSN CC etc..... Are those considered my own stealth accounts?

[AllAboutStealth]

THERE IS JUST TOOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE!!! and i know if i rush id skrew it up.... also forgot to mention my mothers account which im using so a total of 4 stealth accounts AND I NEED MORE!!!

[SUVE]

also forgot to mention my mothers account which im using so a total of 4 stealth accounts AND I NEED MORE!!!

Why do I have a horrible feeling this is not going to end well ???

[AllAboutStealth]

i really just wish i could open one under my name have no selling limit have no category limit , have no limits.... i have 100% feedback on all of them my mothers i have 115feedback 6k selling limit 120 items, but her paypal got limited trying t find another payment method but cant seem to find the best one.

[AllAboutStealth]

Originally Posted by SUVE

Why do I have a horrible feeling this is not going to end well ???

what makes you think that suve?

[SUVE]

You have been given the best piece of advice up here but you are NOT heeding or registering it.

EDITS:
my mothers i have 115feedback 6k selling limit 120 items, but her paypal got limited, same at my sis house same at friends house, use all there info SSN CC etc..... Are those considered my own stealth accounts?

^^^^^^^^^^

[SUVE]

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth

what makes you think that suve?

Your questions & subsequent replies betray your inexperience & serious lack of understanding of the subject.

[AllAboutStealth]

Originally Posted by SUVE

Your questions & subsequent replies betray your inexperience & serious lack of understanding of the subject.

thank you for your insult that helps me out alot

[AllAboutStealth]

Originally Posted by slapped

How about this Why don't you create 1 Stealth Account First, Get a Feel for it,,,I GUARANTEE that you will Modify your approach,,,

Remember the Book is only a GUIDE not a Concrete set of instructions,,,there may be a simpler, Cheaper Way to achieve your goals,,You may find for example that a Landline phone with 10 Numbers is a Little Excessive, not to mention 10 Seperate routers,,Slow down a Bit,,,thats the REAL Key to Stealth,,,Slooooooow and Eaaaaaasy

i had already started with a few accounts before even find out about this forum or reading the Stealth Book, i had never made another account because it was all just common sense to me that you are not allowed to and it would be shut down, i was just not completely educated about IP and the rest of these things all i knew was that as long as im at some1 elses house using there computer and putting in all there info i was good.

[AllAboutStealth]

i feel like im in a big ball of yarn, what i can handle are the other accounts i have at my friends/gf house what im trying to get back on track is my mothers account.

[slapped]

look, Lets be CLEAR, I KNOW what the Guide says, and I have No Reason to insult you,,Yet,,,but here is the PLAIN TRUTH,,,,If you REALLY think you know what you are doing creating and managing Stealth accounts, then,,you should be able to create an account using ANY Name, ANY address, in an instant, at WILL,in your SLEEP even,,,

If you had this ability the LAST thing you would do is use your Mothers, girlfriends or ANYONE else you knows information,,thats the LAST you do,,,Using Friends and Familys information to create accounts will get you into Trouble Where it COUNTS the most,,,in your own home,,,

The fact that you even CONSIDER using a Friends or Famly members information shows how just how inexperienced you are,,the stealth guide is a Good guide,, but it is a bit old written at a time when Ebay was not so "Trigger" Happy, things are different now, that is this forums MAIN Function,,,to constantly Update the guides,,create new and inproved workarounds,,find solutions to NEW problems like the new tax law,,the guides don't mention it,,,because the problem did NOT exist when the guide was written, but on the forums you will find a workaround

I know that you want to "Jump" out there create 400 accounts, flood Ebay with whatever it is you are selling, and Make, What?,,,, about a Million a month, will that suffice?,,,I KNOW all the Delusions,,I used to suffer from them, until I finally Figured it all out,,,Slooooow Down,,and then it all started happening,,,

[SUVE]

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth

thank you for your insult that helps me out alot

I did not insult you, nor ever intend that, nor was there an insult though you perceived one in your mind. I am trying to help you here.

You asked me why I thought there was trouble ahead in your current approach & I explained that it was your inexperience (insult ??? nope) when you sought an explanation.

^^^The above post should be a reference point^^^.

Best of luck with this endeavour.



PS: Slapped
'I KNOW all the Delusions,,I used to suffer from them..'.

[AllAboutStealth]

Originally Posted by slapped

look, Lets be CLEAR, I KNOW what the Guide says, and I have No Reason to insult you,,Yet,,,but here is the PLAIN TRUTH,,,,If you REALLY think you know what you are doing creating and managing Stealth accounts, then,,you should be able to create an account using ANY Name, ANY address, in an instant, at WILL,in your SLEEP even,,,

If you had this ability the LAST thing you would do is use your Mothers, girlfriends or ANYONE else you knows information,,thats the LAST you do,,,Using Friends and Familys information to create accounts will get you into Trouble Where it COUNTS the most,,,in your own home,,,

The fact that you even CONSIDER using a Friends or Famly members information shows how just how inexperienced you are,,the stealth guide is a Good guide,, but it is a bit old written at a time when Ebay was not so "Trigger" Happy, things are different now, that is this forums MAIN Function,,,to constantly Update the guides,,create new and inproved workarounds,,find solutions to NEW problems like the new tax law,,the guides don't mention it,,,because the problem did NOT exist when the guide was written, but on the forums you will find a workaround

I know that you want to "Jump" out there create 400 accounts, flood Ebay with whatever it is you are selling, and Make, What?,,,, about a Million a month, will that suffice?,,,I KNOW all the Delusions,,I used to suffer from them, until I finally Figured it all out,,,Slooooow Down,,and then it all started happening,,,

Thanks alot slapped but i never said you insulted me