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Its not even safe to PM them cause theres no telling how many paypal employees here who have ids and would pm to try to get the info from us.

I understand what you mean, got a couple pm`s today from people i don`t now or they just signed up and i will never answer them. But i think it's fair to say that we a fair amount of members that we can "trust".

I know there are paypal spies on here not sure about if there on the subscriber section but people discuss the paypal refund trick on ebay forums so it was a matter of time before paypal fixed it . But I'm a paying member and what's the point of paying to get in the subscriber section when people wanna keep secrets were suppose to be on here helping each other I understand you don't want paypal or ebay to see it but were in the subscriber area or atleast pm the info to vip members

I disagree with that king, yes I understand what your saying "why pay if you can't share info" but I'm sure paypal or paypal spies would pay the subscriber fee to get into the section if they haven't already.

If you are long enough and spend some serious time on this forum you get the respect from the people that are here everyday, you will get the tricks this has nothing to do with money but just trust. I have no problem with sending Members as Lakeman and a couple others everything i know. As you can see on the forum the provide enough info against Ebay and Paypal to know for sure that they are not a spy. Spend some of time here and you will find out, and i don't think that the 20 or 36$ is enough that should ask a lot more. The info on this site save me a lots of $$$$$. Only if you think how many accounts i saved by being here. Try to see it from a other side friend, we are not against anybody but just careful.


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you can Bet your @ss they did. I can bet they also bought the stelth guide as well and read over all the tricks on there.

And paypalstaffmember said there was another spy here who's been here for awhile and was known by many members.

All it takes is 1 slip of the toung and a paypal monkey finds out and it would end it for all who know's.

Like with the paypal plug-in they did'nt require a ssn to use it at first not till only after i started saleing fully verfied Pp's did this new rule come in effect and i can bet money it had sumthing to do with me saleing Pp's :mad2:

on other hand the hold trick i figerd it out on my own was not hard i did it by mistake :bounce:

okay I see it from y'all side to that is what makes it tough on who to trust I'm gonna try and research this 21 day hold thingy more i tried google and yahoo search and still no luck

Hi King02,

I think this count for all of as this is really nothing personal against you.

non taken . me and another member figured something out that might just work around this ⊗⊗⊗⊗ escrow service (paypal ship first paid later service crap)

we as a whole (ebay sellers) need to get with the other sellers and boycott ebay for atleast 1 or 2 month maybe longer and/or go to another site or auction site and when they don't get no listing fee's and the winning auction fee's it will hurt there profit and the stocks will fall on ebay and they will come around about removing or being less strict on this 21 day paypal hold cause ebay & paypal are holding payment we get and expect us to pay for shipping and not being guaranteed we will receive funds from paypal once the item is delivered is not fair

Its hard to get the other 90% of the ebay do gooders and nice guys who let ebay walk all over them to boycott them.

its official the other 21 one day hold trick is also dead would not work, paypal has got on

discard that last post

well in that case, if the spies paid , they have the paypal payment email for stealth guide and will watch anyone whos bought from it, not a crime but
it wont get you any points either..

Lets face it guys - we are all here cause we love black/white hat tactics against the man!

But the man is always lurking so we got to keep ducking while their pockets getting fatter cause our minds getting wiser...

I guess it is official. Welp, guess it's time to start using GCO.

Good thinking, Oompaloompa! I think I used my cc card that is with my Paypal that was linked to my suspended Ebay account, so I don't care. I still use this PayPal for other things, but I paid with credit card not PP. I don't think they will get me....but even if they do, they can only expect that this 'suspended Ebayer' will turn up on Ebay again...LOL!:cheer:

So does calling Paypal work for anyone to get funds released after it has been delivered?

I think once you reach like 20+ feedback points the hold goes away, doesn't it?

20 DSR ratings, not feedback.

Well luckily one of my accounts has a 20+ DSR and has stopped getting holds. One of my other accounts is close. I guess I will have to start selling more of my cheapie items on my other accounts to get to that 20 DSR rating.

That is exactly the way to do it! That's what I've been doing and it works wonders.

That seems like the only logical way around it. Just simply play by the rules.