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FIRST 08-10-2017 01:06 PM

Stealth ip change
 
Hello guys can be my question to you it seems strange, but I need your help urgently
I have a dynamic IP changing every time after rebooting a trifle
Does this mean that I do not need to change the MAC address of the router?
Or is it better to change the MAC address of the router anyway for better security?
Many thanks to all!

shootemup321 08-10-2017 02:20 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
It's better to change the MAC address so you can keep the same IP on each account and keep track of your IPs. Sometimes the IP changes if you haven't switch to that MAC address in a while but it's very rarely depends how big of a IP pool your service has.

FIRST 08-10-2017 02:40 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shootemup321 (Post 864548)
It's better to change the MAC address so you can keep the same IP on each account and keep track of your IPs. Sometimes the IP changes if you haven't switch to that MAC address in a while but it's very rarely depends how big of a IP pool your service has.


Dear shootemup321 thanks for the answer.
The fact is that I will still change the IP address.
Even if I prescribe MAC just like the previous time.
And generally in my settings, I just select "MAC" ON / OFF and IP is changed automatically without rebooting the router.

FIRST 08-10-2017 02:46 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shootemup321 (Post 864548)
It's better to change the MAC address so you can keep the same IP on each account and keep track of your IPs. Sometimes the IP changes if you haven't switch to that MAC address in a while but it's very rarely depends how big of a IP pool your service has.


Without changing the address, the mac-ip changes automatically. I do not even touch the MAC number

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SaiJin 08-10-2017 02:50 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
for eBay general rule is the IP only. Amazon tracks the mac and IP.

But if you are uncomfortable, I'd go and change the mac too just so that you can sleep better at night.

FIRST 08-10-2017 03:13 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
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Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 864566)
for eBay general rule is the IP only. Amazon tracks the mac and IP.

But if you are uncomfortable, I'd go and change the mac too just so that you can sleep better at night.


You just surprised me. I was acutely wondering if the MAC sites tracked and Aspkin gave the answer "NO"
Or do you mean Amazon tracks the MAC router or network card?

The fact is that I can not stay under the same ip :(
I changed the MAC sequence, but when I reconnect, ip becomes new.
In addition, I have a second computer and now I wonder how to make 2 different ips from one router so that they will not change for two stealth accounts.
I think with your help I will solve this issue more quickly.

dallis 08-10-2017 04:56 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
If you have more than one account keep track of the IP's so they don't duplicate.

Of course, if you only have one account it may not matter a lot, until you one day when you add more accounts and then wish you had tracked the IP.

empirestate 08-10-2017 07:45 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Changing router's mac is to get new IP but it doesn't apply to some because some ISP will give you static IP.
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FIRST 08-11-2017 06:29 AM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 864593)
If you have more than one account keep track of the IP's so they don't duplicate.

Of course, if you only have one account it may not matter a lot, until you one day when you add more accounts and then wish you had tracked the IP.

You want to say that for each account you need to bind your ip? I have two computers on one main account on another stealth. I need to split the ip into two computers into several accounts so that ip does not change with the computer restart. I can not simultaneously work on two computers because ip stands out one. If I knew how to make two ip on two computers, I would be grateful to you.

FIRST 08-11-2017 06:29 AM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 864624)
Changing router's mac is to get new IP but it doesn't apply to some because some ISP will give you static IP.
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I have a dynamic ip it changes after rebooting the router. Do I need to change the MAC?

empirestate 08-11-2017 06:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRST (Post 864720)
I have a dynamic ip it changes after rebooting the router. Do I need to change the MAC?

Nope. If it changes by itself, no need.
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shootemup321 08-11-2017 09:21 AM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRST (Post 864720)
I have a dynamic ip it changes after rebooting the router. Do I need to change the MAC?

It's really up to you. ya you can change your IP without changing mac but no matter what you do you need to keep track of your IPs that you get. When changing mac it's easier to keep track cause there's not so many IPs, either way works just make sure you track IPs for sure.

cool25 08-11-2017 02:00 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Changing the Mac Address can help you to get static IP. On other side you can use

Dedicate IPs Like proxy etc. VPN can provide you Dedicate IP too

FIRST 08-11-2017 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cool25 (Post 864815)
Changing the Mac Address can help you to get static IP. On other side you can use

Dedicate IPs Like proxy etc. VPN can provide you Dedicate IP too

Will not help! I change mac followed by changing ip. To go from another computer to the stealth account I need to restart the modem in order to get a new ip address for another computer. Accordingly, the ip does not return. So you have to change ip every time?

yankee 08-11-2017 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRST (Post 864838)
So you have to change ip every time?

Yes, every time.

FIRST 08-11-2017 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 864841)
Yes, every time.

The stealth manual says it is undesirable. Can there be any way to bind from one dynamic modem two ip addresses to different computers?

MM78 08-11-2017 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRST (Post 864843)
The stealth manual says it is undesirable. Can there be any way to bind from one dynamic modem two ip addresses to different computers?

No......get a VPN if you want a static IP for each account.

dallis 08-11-2017 07:39 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Originally Posted by cool25 View Post
Changing the Mac Address can help you to get static IP. On other side you can use


Ignore this guy, he doesn't have the slightest idea what's going on.

Can you have two different IP's at the same time with a different router? No. Not without two internet providers.

What we're trying to tell you, though, is the dynamic IP isn't a problem, just track your IP's and don't reuse them.

There's no point having two different computers on different IP's at the same time, you can only use one at a time anyway unless you're some sort of bizarre conjoined twin with two bodies and two brains...

FIRST 08-11-2017 07:49 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 864845)
No......get a VPN if you want a static IP for each account.

Thanks you always say briefly and clearly. You're a great guy. But for now vpn does not interest me. I want to understand more in detail with the base.

FIRST 08-11-2017 07:59 PM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 864868)
Originally Posted by cool25 View Post
Changing the Mac Address can help you to get static IP. On other side you can use


Ignore this guy, he doesn't have the slightest idea what's going on.

Can you have two different IP's at the same time with a different router? No. Not without two internet providers.

What we're trying to tell you, though, is the dynamic IP isn't a problem, just track your IP's and don't reuse them.

There's no point having two different computers on different IP's at the same time, you can only use one at a time anyway unless you're some sort of bizarre conjoined twin with two bodies and two brains...

Many thanks to your answer, it seemed to me constructive.

Thus, IP in a limited range can be repeated. What do you suggest keeping records of the used IP address in Excel?
I have one computer for basic accounts. Another computer for hidden accounts.

Sites see an internal IP address, it does not change in any way. If you change the external IP internal will be visible. It will be seen that there are two accounts from one internal IP. In this case, do you need to disable java and flash in the browser so that you can not see the internal IP address?

dallis 08-12-2017 11:36 AM

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In general sites see the external, not the internal address. That's the whole point of spoofing it.

Otherwise we'd all have been suspended years ago.

You track to avoid duplication across multiple accounts.

If you get an IP address you have used before, you can re-use it on an account that has already used that IP address. So you can duplicate IP's if you isolate a particular IP and 'assign' it to a specific account.

That's part of the reason why you track them.

Most of us have all our accounts on one machine, and just switch user accounts. It doesn't require multiple computers.

I have duplicate accounts on two computers, and switch back and forth to keep both current and active in terms of log-ons in case I have a machine failure.

Some people use a different system than user accounts, virtual machines, but I can't speak to that I don't do that myself and know nothing about it.

FIRST 08-13-2017 02:34 AM

Re: Stealth ip change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 864922)
In general sites see the external, not the internal address. That's the whole point of spoofing it.

Otherwise we'd all have been suspended years ago.

You track to avoid duplication across multiple accounts.

If you get an IP address you have used before, you can re-use it on an account that has already used that IP address. So you can duplicate IP's if you isolate a particular IP and 'assign' it to a specific account.

That's part of the reason why you track them.

Most of us have all our accounts on one machine, and just switch user accounts. It doesn't require multiple computers.

I have duplicate accounts on two computers, and switch back and forth to keep both current and active in terms of log-ons in case I have a machine failure.

Some people use a different system than user accounts, virtual machines, but I can't speak to that I don't do that myself and know nothing about it.

The only drawback is that through this provider I was accounted for 6 months. And what IP addresses were during these 6 months I do not know.


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