| | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Good Lord, is all this over Disney VHS tapes? |
| Mallory | 03-15-2018 06:00 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: SAIJIN
I have filed a police report against this psycho. They tell me there is nothing they can do at this point because he hasn't done anything criminal. They say he is protected by his First Amendment Right of Freedom of Speech according to what he's said so far. It's okay for him to say WHAT he plans to do as far as a threat as long as he is vague. That is a civil offense. When he begins to say HOW he's going to do it is when he crosses the line into criminal. |
| Mallory | 03-15-2018 06:08 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: MM78
Yes, it is hard to believe that this is over some silly VHS tapes. He places several VHS orders and tried to get them for free by claiming damage and non-receipt. I ask him to open up claims so we can begin the process. He refuses and demands a refund outright for everything without returning them. This is for about 15 VHS tapes...probably more, I can't remember the exact total. I told him I will not refund without a claim attached to each one. He slams me with negative feedback on each order and my account immediately goes into suspension. I report him on a bad buyer review website. He finds the site, sees my comments and unleashes his fury. It has been ongoing since December and there has been no stopping him. I had to get Jeff to intervene to get my account reinstated. It went back live on December 26th and I immediately put it on vacation mode because this psycho is watching it and ready to place a bunch of bogus orders to bring it down again. I put it back live a little over a week ago, he sees it and attacks it with another round of bogus orders. I cancel them all and put my account back on vacation mode to keep him from ordering any more. Now I'm working with Amazon to see how to get him off of my account. It's been an absolute nightmare. In hindsight I should have just refunded him for everything but I know he would have left the negative feedback anyway. He did the same thing twice over on Ebay and got reported there, too. http://www.mymoviehouse.com/amazon-nightmare |
| Mallory | 03-15-2018 03:13 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare I just sent an email to Jeff Bezos with screenshots of the bad buyer blog showing where this psycho has attacked me, where he has released my personal information and where he admitted to being the reason that I am not able to sell on Amazon and will never sell again. What I sent is very damning. If Amazon does not stand up and take notice of what they read then I will be at a loss for words. I sent the same email with attachments to Seller Performance and I will escalate to Executive Seller Relations if I do not get any decent resolution. I have also fixed the report page of his postings to where he is basically powerless to attack me further where it will be in full view. I do not believe he will stop or go away. I think what I did by cutting him off (in that sense) will further enrage him but at least any future postings will not be so visible anymore. |
| phaz0rz | 03-15-2018 03:19 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Badbuyerlist has the worst spam prevention I've ever seen |
| GhostOfAmazon | 03-16-2018 02:07 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Thing is there's no proof HE said those things.
Wouldn't have used that as evidence. As I said, police reports, phone calls, previous Amazon order records...any and all would have been better. |
| Gladiator | 03-16-2018 02:30 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Reading the posts on the Bad Buyer List thing is like watching a train wreck. I'd be shutting the page down as it's just nonsense. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 03:23 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GLADIATOR
I agree. It's absolute and total nonsense. I finally came up with a solution to keep that psycho from adding any more postings - at least where they would be visible. In the beginning I tried to be tame with my messages hoping he would just go away but then as he got more vile and vulgar I decided I would try to beat him at his own game and sling dirt like he did. I thought that would make him realize that I wasn't backing down and maybe he'd give up. Unfortunately it backfired on me and it made him up the ante and come back at me that much harder. He became relentless and more vile and when my personal info got put out there I came after him with a vengeance and I didn't let up. I wasn't about to let that POS take me down. In hindsight I really hate that I allowed him to get inside my head and escalate my involvement in all of that. That's not who I am and I should have stopped the madness a long time ago. I think my anger just got the better of me but it felt really good putting that scumbag in his place. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 03:34 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GHOSTOFAMAZON
I have two of the IP addresses he used to post his comments. They were traced back to him. And there were a few places where he outed himself by putting his own name, home address, cellphone number, email address and names of relatives in his postings. There were several instances where he made reference to himself, his wife, his surroundings and places that he had been that my PI was able to definitively confirm. We knew when certain postings were done by him and when he was pretending to be someone else (which was practically all of the time). |
| oompaloompa | 03-16-2018 04:11 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare are there any messages between you and their original buyer account on the amazon system? or was it all external? Do you know if their original buyer and seller account is still up? |
| Gladiator | 03-16-2018 04:12 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Your web page thing you have is a way for him to sue you. If you can’t prove everything you’re saying or even if you can, there’s some defamation issues going on.
Hope you get this resolved, but as an overplayed Disney movie once said Let It Go...at least for now. |
| oompaloompa | 03-16-2018 04:16 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare I wonder if it is even actually possible for a seller to get a buyer acc banned?
Does anyone know of any instances, I never heard back on the couple of times I reported a buyer... |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 05:47 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: OOMPALOOMPA
Yes, there are messages between me and the original psycho buyer on Amazon’s system. There are pages and pages of them because when he tried to scam me last year he emailed me relentlessly. He wouldn’t stop. I reported him twice to Amazon and the messages finally stopped. The original account is still up and the 20+ items he ordered from me are for sale there (the same ones that he claimed were damaged and not received).
The thing is, his seller account looks stellar. All metrics are fantastic. He gets glowing reports daily from his buyers and always adds such polite comments that make him look like Mother Theresa. That is a far cry from the vile and filthy-mouthed stuff he says about me on the buyer blog. I’m sure his seller account is what Amazon is looking at and as long as it stays stellar he will never be gone. He takes great care to keep that in good standing.
I don’t know how he created that seller account to scam me on again. My PI has uncovered a definite link between this psycho buyer and the ship-to strip club address. I think he just needed a place to have the orders shipped that would not draw attention to himself and he really didn't care if there was a legitimate person there to receive them or not. This was all to claim either damage or non-receipt or leave negative feedback to get me suspended. Unfortunately for him, I only shipped one order so only one chance to leave feedback. Amazon cut off his ability to leave feedback on orders 2-9. |
| Gladiator | 03-16-2018 05:50 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Are you really employing a PI or are you just googling their info? I don't see why you'd spend money on this when it's getting you no where. Open a new shop and move on with your life. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 05:50 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GLADIATOR
That lunatic will never resort to suing since the eyes of the law are upon him. In fact, he was being watched before I ever came into the picture. He's had many near misses with law enforcement in his town. All of his claims about having an investigator and an attorney you could line the bottom of a bird cage with. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 05:53 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GLADIATOR
I really have employed a private investigator. I paid him an initial retainer (which was hardly anything) and after he saw what I was dealing with he agreed to go pro bono. I'm not his only client and he has access to so many databases that he can locate info in minutes that would take me days to find - if I even could. |
| Gladiator | 03-16-2018 06:01 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Keeping on with what you're doing is one sure way he keeps on looking. I personally find it incredibly weird that someone would dig into this man's personal life and relatives over an attempt at some free VHS tapes of all things. It seems like you antagonized him to the point that he found harassing you to be a worthy cause. If you blocked the scam and just moved on like most sellers none of this would be going on right now.
I hate to say it but I think you're just as guilty. Bringing up poor people resulting to prostitution or whatever the wife is involved in is something I nor any other seller should have known due to a buyer dispute. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 06:21 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GLADIATOR
You're approaching this from the standpoint of someone with a level head but this psycho has no logic. He was not going to stop. When it first started I did ignore it and walk away. His entire outlook on life is how can he easily scam the next person. And if his target tries to intervene in that endeavor he goes after them in the same manner he did me. I’ve received several emails from Ebay sellers who told stories very similar to mine and their experience has been almost identical to mine. There is no walking away from this guy. When he has you in his sights he will never let up. I tried to go back and continue selling but his attacks got more aggressive and I was only trying to defend myself from it. I didn't hire the PI to look into his past and research his family and personal life. I just wanted to find something I could use against him to get him to leave me alone. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 06:27 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GLADIATOR
"...I hate to say it but I think you're just as guilty. Bringing up poor people resulting to prostitution or whatever the wife is involved in is something I nor any other seller should have known due to a buyer dispute..."
I agree with you there but, in my defense, I only went that route when he had already attacked me. Was it right? No. I don't believe in "an eye for an eye" but you just kind of have to put yourself in my shoes and being called all of those vile names (that I can't repeat here) and having someone verbally attacking you day after day in such a disgusting way would send most people over to their dark sides. That's why I did what I did to put a stop to his postings and I don't respond to anything anymore. |
| Gladiator | 03-16-2018 06:32 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallory
(Post 908145)
TO: GLADIATOR
"...I hate to say it but I think you're just as guilty. Bringing up poor people resulting to prostitution or whatever the wife is involved in is something I nor any other seller should have known due to a buyer dispute..."
I agree with you there but, in my defense, I only went that route when he had already attacked me. Was it right? No. I don't believe in "an eye for an eye" but you just kind of have to put yourself in my shoes and being called all of those vile names (that I can't repeat here) and having someone verbally attacking you day after day in such a disgusting way would send most people over to their dark sides. That's why I did what I did to put a stop to his postings and I don't respond to anything anymore. |
If I went after every buyer or person who has called me names I'd be busy until hell freezes over. Being a woman myself I've had my share of vile, evil comments and you've got to learn to shrug it off. You're letting some random scrub dictate your life when you could make many more shops, keep selling, branch out your platforms and not sit around for going on two months worrying and thinking about this pos. Damage is done, start again and go back to making money. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 06:37 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GLADIATOR
Yes, I agree. This was just all new to me. I've never had to deal with this before. Stupid me thought I could just give this psycho person a piece of my mind and move on but that turned out not to be the case. In ten years of selling I've never come across someone as demented as this. |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 07:31 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Who are the Amazon guru's? |
Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: MALLORY
Pretty much everyone on this thread except myself could be considered an Amazon guru... |
| GreenBean | 03-16-2018 09:19 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 908183)
TO: MALLORY
Pretty much everyone on this thread except myself could be considered an Amazon guru... | I also suggest the questions go off the main forum.
=}-
Ps....quote correctly,eh.
:boink: |
| Mallory | 03-16-2018 09:22 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GREENBEAN
I agree. :thumb: |
Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: GREENBEAN
Think you understand about the quoting part, right? :FF:
TO: MALLORY
Best wishes |
| GreenBean | 03-16-2018 10:41 PM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 908192)
TO: GREENBEAN
Think you understand about the quoting part, right? :FF:
TO: MALLORY
Best wishes | I sure do. But it does not work.
Stop compounding this just to be cool/smart/d******d
RIGHT?
The purpose of a quote is to know who said what.
:boink: |
| Mallory | 03-17-2018 12:39 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare TO: CHAICHAOYI
Thanks! :bounce:
Although I just received confirmation that someone from this site turned me in to Amazon for posting this psycho buyer's personal information on the buyer blog site. Unbelievable! He/she apparently never took the time to look at the original postings to see that he outed himself and all of my public information became newsworthy fodder for him. It wasn't only my name but it was names of "family members" and the names and addresses of neighbors who live (or used to live) all around me. I put the quotes around the "family members" because those aren't people related to me but they're related to someone and didn't deserve to have him post their names in public. |
| Gladiator | 03-17-2018 12:48 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Amazon specifically said an Aspkin Forum Member reported you? |
| Mallory | 03-17-2018 05:31 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 908201)
Amazon specifically said an Aspkin Forum Member reported you? | Yes, he did tell me who it was. :hellBoy: |
| oompaloompa | 03-17-2018 07:38 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare pm me who it was! |
| GreenBean | 03-17-2018 07:39 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 908232)
pm me who it was! | Stop it. Stop it.
I asked second.
:pound |
| oompaloompa | 03-17-2018 07:47 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare wait, the snitch gave their user name??? |
Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallory
(Post 908212)
Yes, he did tell me who it was. :hellBoy: | Nice quote use :thumb:
:focus: |
| GreenBean | 03-17-2018 08:01 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 908238)
Nice quote use :thumb:
:focus: | As an example for you.
:pound: |
| Mallory | 03-17-2018 11:12 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Just need to let you all know something. This psycho buyer is over on the other buyer blog posting messages saying that I am talking trash about all of you here and I am not. Here are his claims -
"..HAS MESSAGED ME VIA MY PERSONAL E-MAIL TATTLING ON ALL HER BACKERS ON A SITE KNOWN AS ASPKIN.COM AND SHOWED ME ALL THE MESSAGES YOU BACK STABBERS HAVE DONE TO ME BECAUSE YOU BELEIVED IN HER! GO F*** YOURSELVES AND YOUR ON MY LIST EXCEPT FOR THE GLADIATOR WHOM KNOWS AND RESPECTS LAWS AND NOT LIKE YOU OTHER LONELY UNWANTED BLOGGERS!..."
None of that is true. This psycho buyer copied and pasted all of my comments from this site over to the buyer blog and he is claiming that I put them there which I did not do. This is the "blame game" that he likes to play. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 03-17-2018 11:14 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallory
(Post 907948)
TO: GHOSTOFAMAZON
I have two of the IP addresses he used to post his comments. They were traced back to him. And there were a few places where he outed himself by putting his own name, home address, cellphone number, email address and names of relatives in his postings. There were several instances where he made reference to himself, his wife, his surroundings and places that he had been that my PI was able to definitively confirm. We knew when certain postings were done by him and when he was pretending to be someone else (which was practically all of the time). | This is the website you posted earlier?
Because if it is, the IP address thing is bogus.
I tested by googling my IP before posting and after comments on the site. I'm abroad in Asia, and when I posted it said my IP was in the USA. I don't use a VPN or anything, so they just make up random IPs. Just saying. |
| oompaloompa | 03-17-2018 11:23 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare people from this forum have posted on that other site?
On a list? lonely and unwanted! Oh dear, deluded...
Never get in to a pi ssing match with a skunk.......... |
| Gladiator | 03-17-2018 11:27 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Right. This is just trolling at this point. |
| Mallory | 03-17-2018 11:38 AM | Re: An Amazon Sellers Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 908267)
Right. This is just trolling at this point. | Don't feed into his game. That's how this psycho buyer operates. He will blame everyone for the horrible situations he creates - never himself. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:39 PM. | |
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