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Amazon is making me crazy!!!
 

Amazon is driving me mad!

New IP (same connection though), new entropay card, new phone number, new address etc. All these fine....

The computer is the problem, amazon are dumping something on my computer which they are recognising!!!

My last amazon account, 6 weeks old from another laptop in the house, going fine. My laptop (Which I have opened accounts with previously) came back from Dell after some work on it. Total reinstallation on it, all factory settings...

Within ONE hour of logging in, account suspended, linked to another account!!!

So, unless you have an unlimited supply of computers, what can I do...

I have found a used item you can buy on eBay for £25-£30 which I can push out 10 a week on amazon for £80-90, easy money....

Just getting the accounts!

I love amazon to pieces, just wish in my youth I hadn't messed my account up!!!!!!!!

It may be the serial number of the hard drive or the processor. It could be a 'signature' in the hard drive boot track or diagnostic track. But I've been saying what you just mentioned for many months now.

It's more than web bugs and flash. It's something substantial. Buy a cheap NEW computer if you can, before you sneak back on there.

Well if you think about it, buy a very cheap desktop for $100. You will pay it off in a week by selling those items.

VicVelcro, it is DEFINATELY something on the computer that stays the same.

Nothing to do with cookies at all, they know what computer you are on!

#3 all well and good, but an added expense on top of everything else to stay under the radar. I don't know whether you guys have freecycle over there, but I just got a free laptop real **** but does the job for amazon!

it is not the computer that they see...it's listing the same items again / the same catergory in the same ip range, with the same OS, and same web browser, same ip provider....all of this info is processed by a bot to check the probability that you are associated with the banned user...a new computer is a bit crazy to get just to sell. just reduce the probability factors ;)

#5 It IS the computer.

I had an account going, logged in on old suspended account computer and within an hour the account was suspended!

All those things you mention were the same on other computer....same browser, same ISP, same OS, same catergory, same IP range etc etc.

It is the computer. Last 3 attempts to get back on Amazon, I didn't even list anything. Just put in the info and was letting it rest. Did nothing except the registration procedure. None of my attempts succeeds. The only common factor is the actual physical PC.

I've formatted, changed OS completely (tried 98SE, XPSP1 XPSP2 XP64, ubuntu, puppy, mint, slax, backtrack, and BSD). Changed modem, router. Changed MAC on everything.

Tried cable, dsl, and dialup. Changed my IP geophysical location so that I've popped up in Texas, Virginia, North Carolina, Arizona, California, Denmark, Austria, France, Spain, and Estonia.

It's something IN THE MACHINE.

Try a new Windows Login user name
 

Try a new Windows Login user name that will stop all the hidden unknow variables from linking your accounts - Thats what I do with both amazon and ebay and it seems too work fine - just dont slip up and forget

Already done that. Doesn't work for me and several others. We have collectively tried everything short of a brand new PC. I'll be buying a brand new computer and using it to get back on Amazon soon. When I've done so, I'll post back.

^^^Starting to use a second hand Mac. Seems OK....spits & holds the garlic.:fight:

To restate something I said earlier which seems to have gone un-noticed:

All the stealth that worked for Amazon back in April ---- IS NOT WORKING IN JULY.

Dig that. Read it 5 times. Or 10.

^^^Correct. Was OK at end of May and into June.:shrugsshoulderssmiley:

Was just trying dilligently to update people on a new development. It matters.

I was recalling in May you & I had accounts taken down. @shrugsshoulderssmiley@ meant I wondered what amazon did.:pout:

Yup. And I waited until early June to do anything about it. By then, it was too late, it seems. I waited while getting myself collected and sorted. I would have been better off if I had been quicker about it.

Now, I'm still not up and running. Still experimenting with issues.

do you think changing to a new hard drive would work?

It might.

I'm tired of trying things one-at-a-time, myself. I'm just buying a new machine, then get back on.

OK guys I just may be the crazy one here, but I use the SAME COMPUTER to make all of my amazon accounts and I am able to get back on until I build my inventory that somewhat matches my old one (after a couple of months)...then I get linked...in between time, I am stacking money like nobody's business....So listen to who you want to listen to here, but I am 99% confident in my method/theory and I am making money on amazon after being banned at last 30 times in the past 2 years on the same computer and ISP. I may get suspended after a month or two, but I have already scored alot of money and ready to make the new account.

how long is your current amazon account lasting?

Made any new accounts in the past 6 weeks? What USED to work 2 months ago IS NOT WORKING NOW.



And I'm not getting caught by listings. I never list until an account is 30 days old.

WITH ZERO LISTINGS - I GET ZAPPED WITHIN 24 HOURS. NO LISTINGS.

Go back and read all my posts about this and see that you all keep suggesting I did certain things I already said in advance that I did not in fact do. Also suggesting the vice-versa. Really.

HEADS UP. SOMETHING IS NEW.

My last account opened is about 3 weeks old...still going. My accounts occasionally get zapped in 12 hours but I keep trying until one sticks..sometimes it takes 4 tries, but eventually it goes thru for me.

I think I am done talking about amazon on the forum...I am tired of trying to reassure folks that there is a way to get back on amazon. I am taking a break from this topic and leave it to the other experts to help guide others. I make money on amazon and thats fine with me. I will talk about it again when I stop making money on amazon. I already put everything I know out there so I am not holding anything back, if something changes...I will be back..otherwise, good luck to everyone...I hope you get success as well....

Personally, I would like more input from ANYONE, including you, ebaykilla.

I don't want someone to repeat to me what I already said 2 posts previous to whatever they want to tell, though.

ebaykilla, I think you speedread sometimes and catch 2 words from every sentence, not the whole sentence. For example, you said I was being linked by what I list. I had already said the accounts were created but NO inventory listed.

If you'd like to go back and review the steps I have already taken, and help me find where the PROBLEM REALLY LIES, I would appreciate it. I just don't want the same info repeated 90 times when the info doesn't apply.

To recap steps I've taken:
New bank
New card
New Address
New Phone
New Name
Using Factory Utility - Zero Fill then Format HD entirely
Install old-ass version of OS from original CD (not restoring a backup) - Diff Computer Name, NO FLASH, NO COOKIES, Nothing. All clean.
Changed physical internet connection
Have NEW IP and new ISP and new Modem.
Bought another router and then changed MAC. Also tried without router.
Created accounts with no listed inventory at all (not even on standby)
Letting accounts rest like I always always always do

Still using same physical computer - mouse, keyboard, hd, motherboard, processor chip, ram chips, video card, ethernet card, USB cards, Firewire card, audio card - you get the idea.
I don't have a webcam, so they aren't 'watching' me.

Pixel tracking? Could there be somethere that is not expected to be on a new account so they zap it? :noidea:

I've used the same ebay methods to register two new accounts with no problems, but I reg these about 3 months ago. I've always started slow with different merchandise to get a couple feedback before moving to my main selling item. Could it be something do with operating system. I'm running XP and use Firefox. I was swearing that my account was going to get banned when my mom tried to register a selling account under her name on her laptop on the same ip address, street address and phone as a banned account. But all they did was block her account instantly. Mines still up an running. That was a month ago. Amazon is one hard cookie.

what is the message that you get when they kill your account? don't add the bank account right away. I always delay that portion of the process. Are you in a densely populated area? If not it may be easy to zero in on you....

Can't recall the exact wording, but basically it says my new account has been associated with a previous account deemed persona non grata.

The bank adding. I'll file that in my brain for the next go-round. I've been doing it right away.

I can walk to an international airport. So, yeah I'd say this is a densely populated area. But it did occur to me that perhaps this geographic area is densely responsible for many Amazon reject reruns - if I were someplace else, I may not have the same difficulty (this is only a passing thought).

i think not listing anything AND adding a bank account is a bit strange, and if you keep on doing it then you do fall into a certain "pattern"...think about it, how many people open amazon account complete with bank info and have nothing to sell? you may be the only person doing that in your general area, therefore you are linked. try listing something but leave out the bank account for the first week or so...list a book, a baseball glove, or anything different from what you sold before but price it not to sell...and see what happens then....

I'll go with that. See what happens. Maybe that's the key - for me. It makes sense, actually.

I opened Amazon Seller account few months ago for the first time and just listed few professional books that I don't need any more. Yesterday I made my first sale, so I am all excited. I purchased things on amazon before, but never tried to sell anything.
Can anyone tell me what kind of items are best to sell on Amazon (besides books) profit wise? Amazaon is all new to me, and from what I read here, seems many people get suspended (for what reasons?), so I don't want to make a mistake..having already an account in good standing. Any input from you pros greatly appreciated.. You can also PM me if you wish. Thanks!

finally..someone paid attention and read all of my postings....good luck man...where there is a will there is a way...amazon dose not have esp, nor do they read your computer's serial numbers, etc etc...they just use highly sensitive and prejudiced bots that shoot first and answer questions last....

If youre serious about amazon, get a netbook for each account.

Either way, Id love to find out how amazon is linking everyone.

Hi Guys, New poster here :0 So be gentle. It seems there could be something else they are checking now. I am up and running and a week old on one account, but my orders have stopped coming through but my inventory numbers are going steadily down!!??
I then get this message on the bottom of one of my listings?
"Note for first-time Amazon Marketplace sellers:
Final authorization for your selling account is already under way. Until it is complete, your listing may appear live on the site, but buyers will not be able to purchase the item. As soon as your registration is complete, we'll send e-mail confirmation and your listing will be available for purchase.
Thank you for being an Amazon Marketplace seller. "

I am starting to worry they are onto me?
BTW all is stealth.
Thats Brand New Laptop, Mobile dongle for connection with new payg sim, pre-paycredit card, address etc all stealth. I did the, take it slow, gather 100% feedback and now into second week and as I said, listings are there :- but orders not coming through. They are definatly checking something else!

Yes they are. 'Several something elses'.

I too have experienced what others have experienced here. What was working a few months ago suddenly is not working and new accounts getting zapped.
On the amazon seller account, you can read your messages from Amazon.
I was reviewing the one where my account got closed for being "related to an account which has been previously blocked for violations of our policies."

Just for kicks, I clicked on that "appeal" button.
I wrote a very short polite 4 sentence email that basically said something along the lines of..... what are you talking about, I am not linked to any other account, I just bought some stuff to sell. Is this an error?
Less than 24 hours later I get this reply :
Hello from Amazon.com.

Thank you for writing regarding your Amazon.com selling account. We have reviewed this situation and have reactivated your account.

We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. In our efforts to protect our community, we sometimes err on the side of caution.

We appreciate your interest and wish you the best of luck selling on Amazon.com.

Best regards,

Amazon Seller Performance Team
Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more


lol freakin sweet!!
anyone else try appealing when they quickly block you?
I also agree with the poster who said amazon's bots seem a little too aggressive at blocking new sellers, and how they seem to shoot first ask questions later.

vice,
how about using dialup internet with an ip from another state when you register. might want to try that.

did you have a previously suspended amazon account?
when you made the new one, did you use different ip, window login, bank account, etc?

when you say what was working a few months ago is not working now...what exactly are your steps to create an account? you need to change before you create a pattern and the bots figure you out. if you use the same pattern you will get zapped. the amazon bots aint stupid. buying laptops after each ban for amazon is a waste of money. the bots don't read your computer other than browser used, os used, isp, ip range, & cookies...all else is just the pattern of what you list.

I used dial-up and set-up accounts for both Ebay and Amazon. Waited awhile (weeks) and went to a different computer with a different Static IP address all NEW. Amazon went down in less than a day while Ebay is still selling. What gives? Does anyone have an answer for amazon. I own Steatlh which got me back on-line for a while. HELP.

You created on one computer and moved to another computer later. Did you create the account from the computer you've used in the past for Amazon? The computer you moved to: had that ever been used for another Amazon account?

I'm not asking about the OS or software install. I'm asking if each physical computer unit has previously met Amazon.

ebay security is considerably less sophisticated than Amazon. Doesn't surprise me that one is fine while the other is not.

Yes, we were suspended before on that computer. The account was created on a XP system (seperate login and dial-up) then I transferred to (Win98SE) hi-speed internet NEW STATIC IP. How are they linking the accounts? The same Ebay account is up and selling.


Help.