13K in one month and BOOM!

surcerouche · #2 09-02-2009

I am soooo sorry. I hate any/all correspondence from Paypal.
Paypal sucks is truly an understatement.
Hopeful someone on the wonderful board can help you.

idiotbay · #3 09-02-2009

well i no how you feel, but 13k !!!!!!!!!!! maybe i dont then

good luck

inverser · #4 09-02-2009

Thanks for the encouragement, guys!

I'm really happy with the way sales have been the past few months. Still not anywhere close to what the business used to bring in before the economic downturn though! I hope to be back there soon, American consumers willing.

inverser · #5 09-08-2009

After a week of jumping through hoops like a circus seal... GREAT SUCCESS!

philly387 · #6 09-08-2009

Thataway!!! GOOD JOB!

GreenBean · #7 09-08-2009

Well done,you. BUT do not forget that paypal are evil and they might limit you again. Take the required steps to keep in good with them.

inverser · #8 09-08-2009

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Originally Posted by philly387

Thataway!!! GOOD JOB!

Thanks, Philly!

**aspkin** · #9 09-08-2009

Hopefully you should be good to go now and shouldn't have a lot or any problems for awhile.

Once you get passed the SSN step.. your coast is pretty clear as far as PayPal goes at least.

inverser · #10 09-08-2009

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Originally Posted by GreenBean

Well done,you. BUT do not forget that paypal are evil and they might limit you again. Take the required steps to keep in good with them.

Thanks, GB! And I hear you! I was so scared. Like it was happening all over again. I was nearly screwed over by PayPal for the second time!

I'm going to start shopping for a merchant account straight way and start making one new back up account a week! Screw this nonsense!

Viva la revolucion!

inverser · #11 09-08-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin

Hopefully you should be good to go now and shouldn't have a lot or any problems for awhile.

Once you get passed the SSN step.. your coast is pretty clear as far as PayPal goes at least.

I hope so, Aspkin! I'm still not really sure what triggered the limitation. It could've been volume, cos it's been building up the past couple months really nicely. But I think it could've been the 3rd bank account I added to PayPal too. Perhaps that was really suspicious to them?

Ponders.

philly387 · #12 09-08-2009

After I had my account limited and provided everything, I started selling some bigger items and haven't had a problem. Keep using that account! They seem to get stronger once they get ALL your information including your fingerprint!

inverser · #13 09-08-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by philly387

After I had my account limited and provided everything, I started selling some bigger items and haven't had a problem. Keep using that account! They seem to get stronger once they get ALL your information including your fingerprint!

For sure. That makes complete sense since the account has undergone a review by PayPal!

inverser · #14 09-08-2009

BTW, Please excuse my manners! I want to thank Aspkin for creating this forum as well as everyone else that contributes here. You guys made this possible!

**aspkin** · #15 09-08-2009

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Originally Posted by inverser

I hope so, Aspkin! I'm still not really sure what triggered the limitation. It could've been volume, cos it's been building up the past couple months really nicely. But I think it could've been the 3rd bank account I added to PayPal too. Perhaps that was really suspicious to them?

Ponders.

It's the volume you have been doing. PayPal takes action when your sales increase too fast or your go past a certain dollar amount per day. You can't avoid this.

The GOOD thing is you got passed it and you should be fine for awhile like I said before. Keep using the account, make sure everything is going smoothly on eBay's side, and you should be good for awhile.

Congrats.

TigerLord · #16 09-09-2009

Was this a stealth account or real information?

I don`t see how anyone can get around everything

philly387 · #17 09-09-2009

There are ways around everything. You just have to figure them out. Paypal can be generous at times! Talking to them on the phone helps by the way. People don't realize this for some reason but I have preached it for a while now and some people still don't get it. Don't be scared to talk to people!

TigerLord · #18 09-09-2009

I'd be curious to see how you'd have approached this situation (via PM even!)

Thanks

inverser · #19 09-09-2009

No PMs necessary.

The PayPal account was created in my friend's name and was later upgraded to a business account before selling.

When the account became limited, as you can see by the very first screencap in this thread, PayPal required only an SSN to remove limitation.

Unfortunately, my own personal SSN is blacklisted from eBay/PayPal, so that wasn't possible. Classy I know! And I didn't want my friend, who very graciously allows me to borrow his identity, to feel obligated to extend his generosity that much more. So we chose to contact PayPal and explain that we are a business and tried to have the limitation removed by providing an EIN or Tax ID number instead. I applied for and received an EIN for a new LLC from the IRS for this very reason a few months ago.

My friend was the one who actually spoke with them, so I will never know how it really played out, but I was told the PayPal rep asked many private questions about the business and even seemed to be googling us on the phone. He asked about our supplier, monthly volume, and shipping times. Unfortunately I was not even present at the time of the call. I wish I were but it's not like I could've really coached him while he was talking to them.

Minutes after this phone call however, the PayPal account became "doubly" limited. On top of the first reason for limitation, a second reason was listed. This reason stated that the limitation was for "suspicious withdrawal activity."

Now, PayPal wanted much more than just an SSN. They wanted copies of invoices, supplier info, etc. All of this was provided as well a document from the IRS showing our business name and EIN but they still wanted an SSN.

I'm not sure why they still wanted the SSN even though a "substitute" was provided but they did and we chose not to argue. There was four grand in there that I needed to fill orders.

Perhaps the problem was that the PayPal account used to be a personal account that was later upgraded a business account? Who knows. I plan on doing more research on this particular subject in the very near future.

Lastly, other members have brought up using a DBA paired with an EIN/TID to bypass the SSN. I wish I could've tried this time around but the accounts were not set up appropriately to give it a go.

Next time, fo sheezy!

Hottest_eBay_Goddess · #20 09-12-2009

So did you give them the SSN after all?

GreenBean · #21 09-12-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerLord

Was this a stealth account or real information?

I don`t see how anyone can get around everything

. Necessity is the mother of invention,

Burst · #22 09-12-2009

If you didnt give them an SSN, and PP wants to do a credit check on the account holder, get your funds out asap and always make sure you have the money in hand from now on before you ship items out.

PP wont forget about wanting to do a credit check. Theres a good chance that they will be putting a certain % of funds on lockdown for safety. Just be careful with the account.