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jbluntz 03-14-2010 03:22 AM

The new Id verify only randomly happens if you list more than 1 item after your first, just list 1 to start and wait for it to sell than relist after you get to about 5 you should be clear. I sell nothing but ebooks and dvds, ebooks are a flag when you list lots of them at once, I list 1 BIN with qt. of 10 and that's it and dvds are a flag when you sell boxsets without not much selling history so basically it all goes back to simple common sense "One step at a time" not 10 or 20 or 30 you gotta wait till you get to the top of the hill first then you can fly.

Burst 03-15-2010 09:52 AM

eBooks altogether have been a red flag for almost a year now.

vigilantex69 03-15-2010 04:49 PM

Yea, it cracks me up to see people going nuts about getting suspensions for eBooks. I don't even understand why any guys would try selling them, it seems as though its like instant limitation if you try it.

jbluntz 03-15-2010 04:55 PM

Because it's easy for some to get carried away and sell too many, like me if I list 10 ebooks on a new account I'll get suspended, if I list 1 or 2 everything is fine and once you get to 15 feedback you can list 1 BIN with 10 availabe and get your DSR's up pretty fast from there.

GreenBean 03-15-2010 05:02 PM

@vigilante, the bottom line is how a seller approaches operating an account. imo, it has to be a whole variety of items sold to get a solid base for the account. And most importantly, there's is no rush. Much rather have an account improving slowly than being suspended:ranger:

I'll say it again, if a person pays attention to what aspkin's forum has made available, there is every chance of having 'sound' accounts.

NZT 03-16-2010 05:32 AM

Totally agree with Green.

New account = Get a load of various stuff and list it slowly to start with.

Ie: I will probably list 10-15 items for 3 day auctions and then wait a bit for feedback to start rolling in.

Then once the feedback starts to trickle in I will do the same again. Only once the feedback numbers start to get a bit more respectable do I start moving to better products and in slightly larger quantities.

Forget rubbish like ebooks, not worth the hassle

jbluntz 03-16-2010 07:33 AM

Unless you know what your doing and how to do it the right way then you can get over 20 DSR's in 1 day like me with nothing but ebooks and have every account still standing to this day like mine.

stillconfused 03-16-2010 07:51 AM

E-books aren't allowed on Australian ebay. I bought a few from US ebay and had to re-sell on US ebay, I did have on Australian buyer though. Sent him the e-book twice, as he complained that he never received it the first time, and he still didn't leave feedback.
But yes, that did draw ebay's attention to me, and I didn't do it again.

NZT 03-16-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 128820)
Unless you know what your doing and how to do it the right way then you can get over 20 DSR's in 1 day like me with nothing but ebooks and have every account still standing to this day like mine.

Thats cool if you can get away with selling them, but they seem to be a big problem for a lot of sellers

jbluntz 03-16-2010 01:57 PM

But if you only sell 1 per account they won't be much of a problem, I still have 1 ebook on every one of my accounts.

IDK 03-16-2010 03:01 PM

Sorry, but I'm not gonna stop selling eBooks... The data is not here to support these theories of eBooks getting your account flagged. Most people don't know how to properly sell them, so they get pinched and get left with a bad taste in their mouth. I have NEVER once had a problem selling ebooks, and as stated before, it's the fastest way to get 20 DSR's.... After that, you can let the account rest for a few days, then start moving your product. If I get flagged on my next account then I may take this into consideration, but ONE flag isn't gonna run me off.

x2ruff4u 03-19-2010 10:09 AM

What about buying feedback while waiting to build up? Neo on your post you sell 10-15 on the first day? Thats okay still? I have about 200 products I sell

NZT 03-20-2010 06:35 AM

Usually if I set up and ebay account and verify it as a seller account I then leave the account for 6 months.

I would never set up an ebay account and then start selling the same day.

immortal3k3 05-07-2010 04:29 PM

I doubt this has anything to do with eBooks. I made an account on eBay last night and I checked this morning and it wanted ID and Utility Bill. I was selling apple electronics:P

imjustme 05-07-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 128445)
The new Id verify only randomly happens if you list more than 1 item after your first, just list 1 to start and wait for it to sell than relist after you get to about 5 you should be clear. I sell nothing but ebooks and dvds, ebooks are a flag when you list lots of them at once, I list 1 BIN with qt. of 10 and that's it and dvds are a flag when you sell boxsets without not much selling history so basically it all goes back to simple common sense "One step at a time" not 10 or 20 or 30 you gotta wait till you get to the top of the hill first then you can fly.

Not for me. I tried this with a "dormant" 1 year old account. Listed 1 item, totally non-VERO (a garden item) and got that MC010 ID verification message 7 minutes later. Tried it with 3 more accounts, the same issue. All these accounts are 6+ months, most 1+ year, with all of them PayPal attached and verified, seller account since they were opened.

jbluntz 05-25-2010 08:13 PM

Same here, just started recently for me, I got past one of the phone calls but failed the next one. I heard you can get past the questions if you answer "none of the above" since its a ficticious person. We need some account sellers with ID verified accounts, you should be able to get past alot of the phone calls, I just hate calling em though.

arsgunner77 05-26-2010 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 140744)
Same here, just started recently for me, I got past one of the phone calls but failed the next one. I heard you can get past the questions if you answer "none of the above" since its a ficticious person. We need some account sellers with ID verified accounts, you should be able to get past alot of the phone calls, I just hate calling em though.

ive been hit with 4 of these this year so far and not one time have i ever been offered to answer questions,every single time i have to fax documents in and i have used real info of a friend and still doesnt ask me questions,i have no clue about this,people here are saying its easy they always ask,i dont know who to believe to be honest on this forum,im going from my own experience,ive used real person info and made up names,and never get to answer any sort of questions

i think times are really coming to end,i mean you can always get by but they are making harder and harder,so people will give up,i have one more run in me than i will say goodbye to ebay,i think in less than a year..its going to be wayyyyy worse

jbluntz 05-26-2010 01:21 AM

You must be talking about a different type of violation, this is the one where they tell you to call ebay in the next 48 hrs so they can ask you some questions. I know there's other times where they just ask you to send documents without calling, that's not the same as MC010.

arshavin 05-26-2010 03:19 AM

Just before i start making my own stealth accounts i read this. Looks like i jumped onboard at the wrong time.

Have UK members been running into the same problem?

jbluntz 05-26-2010 03:28 AM

Why don't you try making one and let us know what happens, I'm gonna get a new O/S and browser see if that works since I have about 25 suspended accounts on this computer so that might have something to do with it, we'll see.

arshavin 05-26-2010 03:42 AM

Jbuntz, i will be making a new account within a few days so i will post back in this topic to let you guys know.

arshavin 05-26-2010 03:50 AM

Good job admin!

GreenBean 05-26-2010 03:58 AM

You're always welcome :thumb:

arsgunner77 05-26-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 140803)
You must be talking about a different type of violation, this is the one where they tell you to call ebay in the next 48 hrs so they can ask you some questions. I know there's other times where they just ask you to send documents without calling, that's not the same as MC010.

nope..mc010..i get the same email ,"we've tried calling you,please call within 48 hours" ive never been asked to send documents without calling,so it is the same thing what everyone is talking about

i keep saying this,make whatever you can now on ebay because within a year,its going to be really difficult ,plus you cant go stealth yer whole life,expect major changes,one last go for me and im retiring off ebay once and for all

slapped 05-26-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsgunner77 (Post 140886)
.......

i keep saying this,make whatever you can now on ebay because within a year,its going to be really difficult ,plus you cant go stealth yer whole life,expect major changes,one last go for me and im retiring off ebay once and for all........

It is NOT going to be as Easy as you think for Ebay Read this Post : http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...tml#post135994

jbluntz 05-26-2010 02:56 PM

^^
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsgunner77 (Post 140886)
nope..mc010..i get the same email ,"we've tried calling you,please call within 48 hours" ive never been asked to send documents without calling,so it is the same thing what everyone is talking about

i keep saying this,make whatever you can now on ebay because within a year,its going to be really difficult ,plus you cant go stealth yer whole life,expect major changes,one last go for me and im retiring off ebay once and for all

I've never had that one before, the one I get they just ask you to call in 48hrs, they ask you some random questions and if you don't pass they ask you to send in documents.

arsgunner77 05-26-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 140890)
It is NOT going to be as Easy as you think for Ebay Read this Post : http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...tml#post135994

i understand ebay lets people sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff is cuz they make good profits off it,but im referring to stealth accounts,not selling certain items..if i have 10 real info accounts,i can sell whatever the hell i want and my only worry be paypal limitation but you can get around that if its real info

⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff will always be on ebay,that will not stop,but stealth accounts is the problem
you will disagree here and so will everyone else saying "we've always found ways around it" very true BUT its nothing like it is now verifying almost every new accounts ..nothing we can do..but again ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff will always be on ebay

jbluntz 05-27-2010 11:00 AM

I think they just want to get rid of the bad sellers like the ones selling adobe and gucci handbags with zero feedback, not to say those are bad sellers but they most likely were suspended before for bad peformance. I think they just want to make it more difficult to hop on to a new account and keep on selling what you were before. Professional well established sellers is what they're looking for regardless if you're selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or not, I don't think they care about that as long as the customers are satisfied that's what matters, there's many top rated sellers with 1,000's of feedback selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ along with non-branded items, those are the type of sellers they're looking for IMO.

slapped 05-27-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsgunner77 (Post 140954)
i understand ebay lets people sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff is cuz they make good profits off it,but im referring to stealth accounts,not selling certain items..if i have 10 real info accounts,i can sell whatever the hell i want and my only worry be paypal limitation but you can get around that if its real info

⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff will always be on ebay,that will not stop,but stealth accounts is the problem
you will disagree here and so will everyone else saying "we've always found ways around it" very true BUT its nothing like it is now verifying almost every new accounts ..nothing we can do..but again ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff will always be on ebay




That makes a little more sense now.

By the Way if you have 10 Real info accounts Why are you worried about Paypal Limitations. The real info Paypal accounts that I have are Truly Unlimited. You Know that they are fully unlimited when you can set up Automatic account "Sweeps" (Automatic transfers to your Bank Account)

jbluntz 05-27-2010 11:29 PM

I wish I had my real info paypal back but I owe them $1500 and ebay about $500, I was already told I could have my ebay account back once I paid the past due amount but not sure about paypal, I miss my paypal debit card.

jbluntz 06-03-2010 01:56 AM

Just want to add a little update, the last 3 acounts got hit MC010 because I went to quick which I used to be able to get away with. I used to just buy 5-10 ebooks and list my first item the next day but the last 3 accounts got hit within minutes after the first listing so this time I took over a week and got my feedback up around 30 listed a used dvd and so far so good, plus I cleaned my flash cookies which I didn't used to do. I got a stack of bank accounts just begging to get linked to a fresh new paypal plus I'm making a killing on ioffer things are looking good.

arsgunner77 06-03-2010 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 142523)
Just want to add a little update, the last 3 acounts got hit MC010 because I went to quick which I used to be able to get away with. I used to just buy 5-10 ebooks and list my first item the next day but the last 3 accounts got hit within minutes after the first listing so this time I took over a week and got my feedback up around 30 listed a used dvd and so far so good, plus I cleaned my flash cookies which I didn't used to do. I got a stack of bank accounts just begging to get linked to a fresh new paypal plus I'm making a killing on ioffer things are looking good.

you didnt get hit with this because yer trying to sell quick,doesnt matter..all newer selling accounts will get hit with this sooner or later,its a fact in my experience,i set up my accounts pretty good,and i got hit with them 2 months after selling,stealth is coming to an end

arsgunner77 06-03-2010 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 141243)
That makes a little more sense now.

By the Way if you have 10 Real info accounts Why are you worried about Paypal Limitations. The real info Paypal accounts that I have are Truly Unlimited. You Know that they are fully unlimited when you can set up Automatic account "Sweeps" (Automatic transfers to your Bank Account)

i dont have 10 real info accounts..re read what i said...i said "if i have 10 real info accounts" and honestly paypal is getting pretty strict with the invoices..before you can send whatever and theyd pass you 9 of 10..now i think they do a couple more steps to see how legit it is,ive had 2 real info accounts this year go down on limitations ,they just send me the "parting ways" email

i was going to give up ebay this summer because im going to move into other things,i may try and pay a few friends/family for there info,it seems like its the only way now to last,i do not care what anyone on this forum says,there is no way to make an account last along time unless you sell like under a few hundred dollars a month,even than you still may get hit with ebay verification as jbuntz and others have said...

jbluntz 06-03-2010 02:13 AM

2 months is long enough for me, you can make at least $5,000 in 2 months times that by 10 or 20 you got $50,000- $100,000. If you can get 1000 feedback and top rated seller status in 2 months ebay's not gonna want to get rid of you that quick, those are the sellers they want. I've got stealth accounts going on almost a year now, your negative, there's no such thing as a negative successful person, that's why you're giving up on ebay.

arsgunner77 06-03-2010 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 142528)
2 months is long enough for me, you can make at least $5,000 in 2 months times that by 10 or 20 you got $50,000- $100,000. If you can get 1000 feedback and top rated seller status in 2 months ebay's not gonna want to get rid of you that quick, those are the sellers they want. I've got stealth accounts going on almost a year now, your negative, there's no such thing as a negative successful person, that's why you're giving up on ebay.

im not giving up on ebay cuz of this,if youve read my previous post,i stated im stopping this summer,it doesnt matter if you reach top rated seller,paypal is the other issue,you can always beat one,but its very difficult to beat them both on a new account

paypal has been the issue for me lately,all my ebay accounts are open,but im not paying fees on any of them except the power/top rated seller cuz my fees are like 3 bux, there are certain vero items that they are getting more strict on

and yes in 2 months i did 3-8k on a few accounts,im still going to sell for another 2-3 months,than ill be done,ive made my money and i do not want to get greedy,ive sold stuff that everyone on this forum swears you will not last,i laugh when i read what alot of people here say,just a bunch of lies with no experience

ebaykilla 06-09-2010 08:13 PM

does anyone know if ebay logs id numbers when we send them in? i have had 2 accounts closed back to back which had different names but the same id numbers on my drivers lisc.


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