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nobody999 03-31-2010 08:47 AM

Another dvd seller bites the dust
 

jbluntz 03-31-2010 11:51 AM

They made almost a million bucks and only face up to a year in jail and weren't even using multiple ebay accounts, just imagine the possibilities.

nobody999 03-31-2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 131181)
They made almost a million bucks and only face up to a year in jail and weren't even using multiple ebay accounts, just imagine the possibilities.

probably got a good lawyer and spent all the money they made on legal fees, and now they are labled as convicted criminals...definitely not worth it

jbluntz 03-31-2010 12:00 PM

It's not worth it to go that far but it can be worth it to make just enough to get started in something else.

Burning 03-31-2010 07:39 PM

You guys read it wrong. It says:

The court has scheduled a sentencing hearing for Freyling and Butts for April 22. They face maximum punishments of 20 years for each count of wire and mail fraud, five years for the conspiracy, smuggling, entry of goods by false statements, Social Security fraud, and false statement counts. For each count, there is also a potential fine of $250,000.

jbluntz 03-31-2010 07:51 PM

I guess I missed that part, looks like a good time head to Costa Rica.

OfficialGenius 03-31-2010 07:52 PM

Someone seems to be paranoid:boink:

jbluntz 03-31-2010 07:55 PM

I was reffering to the people in the article, I don't get paranoid, I do everything with 100% confidence.

jamblix 03-31-2010 08:06 PM

Damn! 20-30k per month! Incredible! :eek:

I wonder if anyone on here is making that much money. I'd be happy making 5-10k a month. LOL the funny thing is they turned on each other at the end! Or actually the woman turned on the man, saying she knew nothing, using the poor old blind woman excuse and even calling him gay! HAHA! :pound:

They were getting so reckless though. Kinda feel bad almost. If they had just done a few things differently they could just have happily retired with some major cash. Looks like what they were doing is a little different from what the people on here are trying to accomplish.

Gotta be more vigilant from now on. :ninja:

OfficialGenius 03-31-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 131254)
I was reffering to the people in the article, I don't get paranoid, I do everything with 100% confidence.

Not you! :p

Burning 03-31-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OfficialGenius (Post 131257)
Not you! :p

Lol, someone deleted my post in a blink of a second..

Who ever you are come out! :fight:

arsgunner77 03-31-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning (Post 131249)
You guys read it wrong. It says:

The court has scheduled a sentencing hearing for Freyling and Butts for April 22. They face maximum punishments of 20 years for each count of wire and mail fraud, five years for the conspiracy, smuggling, entry of goods by false statements, Social Security fraud, and false statement counts. For each count, there is also a potential fine of $250,000.

this is the major stuff,for the bootleg stuff its a year, they did alot of shady ****,all the other crap they got caught for is way worse than the actual selling dvds,,entry of goods by false statements,ss fraud,false statements...way worse than selling counterfeit, even people ive read who went to jail for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap never went away for that long,its all the other stuff that gets them wayy worse,

i suggest you all stop selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or this could be you and you and you...

Burning 03-31-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsgunner77 (Post 131262)
this is the major stuff,for the bootleg stuff its a year, they did alot of shady ****,all the other crap they got caught for is way worse than the actual selling dvds,,entry of goods by false statements,ss fraud,false statements...way worse than selling counterfeit, even people ive read who went to jail for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap never went away for that long,its all the other stuff that gets them wayy worse,

i suggest you all stop selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or this could be you and you and you...

Yep, completely agree with what you said. Keep a watch out..you don't know what could happen.

arsgunner77 03-31-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning (Post 131263)
Yep, completely agree with what you said. Keep a watch out..you don't know what could happen.



of course no one knows what can happen,but if you go stealth the correct way and do it smart(something majority of the board has no clue of) than youll be ok

that couple sold bogus dvds,i bought the godfather 1-3 dvd years and years ago on ebay and it was a bogus bootleg,the case was all crap,thats the type of crap they were selling,all i did was go to my local blockbuster and swap out the dvds..haha..my problem solved!

but ya you can sell anything you want to as long as you go stealth correctly,i mean worse case scenario they rarely dont go that far unless yer dealing in the 6-7 figure range and them trying to contact you to no avail

just be smart if yer going to sell bogus crap,obviously some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff is better than other ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff and these articles come up every year,you always hear about idiots selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap, i mean seriously if they really really want to stop counterfeiting,they could do a way better job of doing so,i live in a fairly big city and its pretty easy to find out in the open,sure the fbi comes in every now and than and bust people,but they could do a better job if they really wanted to,i mean just look at ebay for gods sake..⊗⊗⊗⊗ heaven

Burning 03-31-2010 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsgunner77 (Post 131265)
of course no one knows what can happen,but if you go stealth the correct way and do it smart(something majority of the board has no clue of) than youll be ok

that couple sold bogus dvds,i bought the godfather 1-3 dvd years and years ago on ebay and it was a bogus bootleg,the case was all crap,thats the type of crap they were selling,all i did was go to my local blockbuster and swap out the dvds..haha..my problem solved!

but ya you can sell anything you want to as long as you go stealth correctly,i mean worse case scenario they rarely dont go that far unless yer dealing in the 6-7 figure range and them trying to contact you to no avail

just be smart if yer going to sell bogus crap,obviously some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff is better than other ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff and these articles come up every year,you always hear about idiots selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap, i mean seriously if they really really want to stop counterfeiting,they could do a way better job of doing so,i live in a fairly big city and its pretty easy to find out in the open,sure the fbi comes in every now and than and bust people,but they could do a better job if they really wanted to,i mean just look at ebay for gods sake..⊗⊗⊗⊗ heaven

Stealth does not protect you, trust me. If they were after you they can easily search your ip and find the location of it.

vigilantex69 03-31-2010 09:00 PM

I'm sure they got busted because they were making $30,000 a month and ****ing the government on taxes. You can't have thousands of dollars coming in a week and not show where its from.

arsgunner77 03-31-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning (Post 131269)
Stealth does not protect you, trust me. If they were after you they can easily search your ip and find the location of it.

of course i know that,but they dont go that far for chumps,if yer messin around in the 6-7 figure range, if you do a few thousand a month under multiple accounts,youll be fine,they wont waste there time on someone doing 1k a month,they have better things to worry about..again it depends on yer product,

hope everyone plays safe

arsgunner77 03-31-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vigilantex69 (Post 131271)
I'm sure they got busted because they were making $30,000 a month and ****ing the government on taxes. You can't have thousands of dollars coming in a week and not show where its from.

ya too but it seems they got busted for all other things besides the dvds really,its just one thing led to another

i mean what does the govt care more about? ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dvds or ss fraud and falsifying documents? thats pretty obvious to me

jbluntz 03-31-2010 09:18 PM

@Burning Stealth does not protect you, trust me. If they were after you they can easily search your ip and find the location of it.

I thought that was the reason people hide their mac address.

jamblix 03-31-2010 09:29 PM

If the FBI want to find you, they will find out regardless. People have not been using IP addresses to find criminals for the past two centuries. Play smart and don't be TOO greedy. Stupidity and greediness are the two biggest factors of people getting caught...

arsgunner77 03-31-2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamblix (Post 131281)
If the FBI want to find you, they will find out regardless. People have not been using IP addresses to find criminals for the past two centuries. Play smart and don't be TOO greedy. Stupidity and greediness are the two biggest factors of people getting caught...

well said..just like i said a couple post above you,if they really want to bust people for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff,they easily can,they really dont put too much effort into it..one of the main reasons they do is because the companies complain and they have to do big bust every now and than to make everyone happy,but seriously the govt has more important things to worry about than people sellin ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff online..im not saying they dont care,but its not really high on the priority list

OfficialGenius 03-31-2010 09:44 PM

They will find me If I'm stealing someone else's connection or how about using a prepaid connection. :rolleyes:
Don't be too paranoid. You gotta take risks in life specially to make big money and invest it in property or authetic suppliers and come clean. I have a minimum of 2,000 a week goal and I'm not letting paranoia or people stop me from accomplishing it. Or at least, not anymore. ;)


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