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jhohman 10-22-2010 02:42 PM

Being productive and making $$ with multiple accounts. tips? advise?
 
If I have 10 ebay/paypal accounts with 10 gmail accounts, how can I manage all 10 accounts in a timely manor and still have time to do everything else eBay related?

I already linked all 10 gmail accounts with outlook on my main windows account.

I should be safe if I JUST answer eBay questions, pickup paypal payment notice emails, ebay winning bidder notice emails, but never log into my accounts or follow any links within the email messages, correct?

Also, any other ideas of how a seller can be more productive with 10+ PP/EB accounts would be appreciated. Having multiple accounts = $$, but only if you can manage the time efficiently with low stress.

Thanks guys!



Edit: Also, if I use a new ****.com domain name on all 10 accounts, but use different subdomains for all 10, would that be stealthy enough since it is just the domain that would link the accounts?

pod 10-22-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 176302)
I already linked all 10 gmail accounts with outlook on my main windows account.

Bad idea! Outlook is not great for keeping your IP off the radar

And using the same domain with subdomains is risky. If they look they can tell all the domains are tied.

You need to be a bit more careful. Trying to keep stuff organized and "easy" can lead to simple mistakes. I know this first hand!

You know whats better then efficient? Accounts that stay up ;)

robsut 10-22-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pod (Post 176314)
Bad idea! Outlook is not great for keeping your IP off the radar

And using the same domain with subdomains is risky. If they look they can tell all the domains are tied.

You need to be a bit more careful. Trying to keep stuff organized and "easy" can lead to simple mistakes. I know this first hand!

You know whats better then efficient? Accounts that stay up ;)

you need to buy amazon ghost, there is a program called vmware you can use that will be right up your street, i cannot explain about it here on the forum as it give out to much info but it helps me to run multiple accounts, hope this helps.

pod 10-22-2010 04:31 PM

Me? I use multiple boot O/S setups so no need for cloud systems.

beaches 10-22-2010 06:08 PM

i use multiple computers and seperate hard drives

jamblix 10-23-2010 05:31 AM

It really doesn't take long to just switch accounts. I finish the work on all my accounts individually. I figure working on accounts separately reduces the risk of getting things accidentally mixed up.

Switch IPs, logout of useraccount1 and login to useraccount2, it's pretty simple and fast. Takes no more than five minutes, I have a quick smoke while things are resetting and by the time I'm done, comp is ready for the tasks on the next account.

jhohman 10-23-2010 03:21 PM

hrmmm, setting up multiple PCs might be a good option. I suppose I can reset my modem and check each account individually, but to do that 10 times every day is pretty time consuming. If I have questions from customers I want to address those in a timely manor so I can not really check each account every other day, are you sure outlook is risky? eBay wouldnt be able to link IPs if I have outlook linked to each email account if I do not open the email right? I just want to link the emails and just open outlook so I will know if I have questions/payments coming through on a particualr account. That is much more effective then loading 10 account every day.

pod 10-23-2010 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 176543)

to do that every day is pretty time consuming.

Thats just the way it is with multiple accounts. If you use user accounts in windows, multiple OS setups or multiple computers, you still need to work with separate IPs. Is it annoying sometimes? For sure. But remember you are making money from these accounts so you gotta do what you gotta do.

Again, taking shortcuts is simply the fastest way to lose accounts.

If you reply to emails all from the same desktop client off the same IP you will get burned. Period. And fast.

FandangoKango 10-23-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 176302)
If I have 10 ebay/paypal accounts with 10 gmail accounts, how can I manage all 10 accounts in a timely manor and still have time to do everything else eBay related?

I already linked all 10 gmail accounts with outlook on my main windows account.

I should be safe if I JUST answer eBay questions, pickup paypal payment notice emails, ebay winning bidder notice emails, but never log into my accounts or follow any links within the email messages, correct?

Also, any other ideas of how a seller can be more productive with 10+ PP/EB accounts would be appreciated. Having multiple accounts = $$, but only if you can manage the time efficiently with low stress.

Thanks guys!



Edit: Also, if I use a new ****.com domain name on all 10 accounts, but use different subdomains for all 10, would that be stealthy enough since it is just the domain that would link the accounts?

i use outlook the free version that comes with windows and no way in a logical mind would i answer questions too all ebay accounts from a single ip at my main user account just because of time. this is an instant kill on ebay if you do that meaning DO NOT DO IT! :) my best advice is that. take it or leave it.

jhohman 10-24-2010 02:21 AM

yes but what if you don't open the emails, just used them as a reference to sign into the account(s) and answer the question(s)?

holymoly 10-24-2010 02:30 AM

The man who waits learns the most....

Simply put, you can speed up the process only SO MUCH before you start skipping steps to keep your accounts safe

jhohman 10-24-2010 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymoly (Post 176653)
The man who waits learns the most....

Simply put, you can speed up the process only SO MUCH before you start skipping steps to keep your accounts safe

What does any of that mean? What are you "learning" by "waiting"? I am attempting to "speed up the process" not to keep my accounts safe, but to be more productive and make bigger profits as I posted in the title....not quite sure what you are trying to say

GreenBean 10-24-2010 03:22 AM

http://comps.fotosearch.com/comp/FSD...~x17063744.jpg

Anyone hear the falling dominoes? Anyone else understand the dangers of 'speeding up the processes' and remaining productive :faint: Then what do some of us know? :faint:

pod 10-24-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 176650)
yes but what if you don't open the emails, just used them as a reference to sign into the account(s) and answer the question(s)?

If you mean just to look but not to reply you would be much safer having them all forwarded to a gmail account with images turned off. I do this. However, still dangerous and risky. But better than a desktop email client. At least with gmail its web based and "should" use the servers IP. So a little safer. Your desktop client uses your IP and nothing else.

Its not bulletproof and there is never a guarantee gmail wont accidentally screw you up. But if you insist on getting them all in one, thats a better option.

slapped 10-24-2010 09:07 AM

Build a Computer that you can Change Hard drives,,Each Hard drive will Have a Unique Combination of Operating System, Browser, and Antivirus, and have 1 Ebay,,1 Paypal,,,1 Amazon,,1 Gmail,,,ect,ect Account associated with it,,,It is almost like having as MANY Computers that you Need built into One

Now all you need to do is "Plug in" The Hard drive that has the Accounts that you need to access into the Computer,,Reset you Router for a New IP Address and go,,,

Your computer should also have 1 large 250gb - 1 TB Built in Drive Strictly for Storage, (Photos, Movies, Games, Documents, ect, ect,) You can also Put your Programs File folder here for all Of your Programs.

Everytime you need to set up a New set of accounts,,Just go out and get yourself a Cheap 50-100 Gb Used hard drive,,on Ebay you can get them as low as $10.00, set it up as Described above,,,,Boot and go,,,

I Have been doing this for Quite some time now and I Find that although a Little Expensive and Tricky to Initally set up,,,Once it is ready it is Very Fast,,, Virtually Idiot Proof,,,For me Anyway

holymoly 10-24-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaches (Post 176354)
i use multiple computers and seperate hard drives

REALLY OVERKILL, if you know what your doing...you can have 20 accounts one ONE computer.

pod 10-24-2010 06:25 PM

I'll take overkill over accounts going down any day. I do know what I'm doing and I also take extra precautions. Win win.

holymoly 10-24-2010 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pod (Post 176817)
I'll take overkill over accounts going down any day. I do know what I'm doing and I also take extra precautions. Win win.

True that, it's just I believe that really it can be a clutter ESPECIALLY if you run more than 5+ accounts (unless you like being on HOARDERS) lol!!!

Stigger 10-25-2010 01:49 PM

i use a 1tb hard drive split in to 10 partitions with different operating system on each partition, i also use a 500gb hdd for storage.

pod 10-25-2010 01:56 PM

Hell, one TB is wasted. Could hold 40 ;)
I use an old 100 gb for 4.

rsot 10-25-2010 02:04 PM

...I have set up multiple accts on one for eb, az, etc. on dial-up...now that's torture =)

And yes I am looking at getting dynamic IP soon...

pod 10-25-2010 02:10 PM

Oh man, that's torture. I would get a cable setup...

rsot 10-25-2010 04:21 PM

Thanks pod - always helpful =P hook me up ha

jhohman 10-25-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TizWoz (Post 177013)
i use a 1tb hard drive split in to 10 partitions with different operating system on each partition, i also use a 500gb hdd for storage.

what is the point? All you need to do is run seperate windows user accounts on one single partition and you are set. Your pretty much wasting hard drive space for no reason what so ever.

pod 10-25-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 177057)
what is the point? All you need to do is run seperate windows user accounts on one single partition and you are set. Your pretty much wasting hard drive space for no reason what so ever.

Its a little different. Actually, its a lot different.

You can control various things that are not shared from user to user like hardware, browser, browser settings and plugins, operating system, ect

There is much more to what they look at than IP and cookies...

It also affords you much more room for user accounts if desired.

Much much more controllable

slapped 10-25-2010 10:26 PM

Another thing that you MUST NOT Forget is that It is MUCH EASIER to manage Multiple accounts for Ebay as it is for Amazon,,,,,,,, so what might be Considered "Overkill" for Ebay May NOT WORK at all for Amazon,,,The Method I Described above was devoleped SPECIFICALLY for Dealing with Multiple Amazon Accounts as Effeciently as Possible,,,It also works with Great Ebay,,But I Do Admit that for Ebay it is Ovewrkill,,

5MPdew 11-11-2010 01:25 PM

Here is the method I use for my Amazon & eBay accounts and works great for me. I have several netbooks and they are all running Windows XP. I have 10 partitions on each hard drive with 10 different windows setups. This way every time I boot into one partition my MAC has already been changed with SMAC and do not have to do it again. I have DropBox installed on all my Windows XP installs with my Used IP’s & MAC addresses in an excel file with shortcuts dragged to the desktop. This makes it possible for me to have all my IP’s that I have used synced with all my computers. I am also running a wireless router running tomato firmware, so I can spoof my MAC address for each of my accounts very fast. This method works for me and DropBox has saved me lots of headaches.

MtnDew 11-11-2010 04:21 PM

5MPdew is organized. dang well played

sojo 11-13-2010 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5MPdew (Post 181261)
Here is the method I use for my Amazon & eBay accounts and works great for me. I have several netbooks and they are all running Windows XP. I have 10 partitions on each hard drive with 10 different windows setups. This way every time I boot into one partition my MAC has already been changed with SMAC and do not have to do it again. I have DropBox installed on all my Windows XP installs with my Used IP’s & MAC addresses in an excel file with shortcuts dragged to the desktop. This makes it possible for me to have all my IP’s that I have used synced with all my computers. I am also running a wireless router running tomato firmware, so I can spoof my MAC address for each of my accounts very fast. This method works for me and DropBox has saved me lots of headaches.

Question, how much hard drive space do you allocate to each partition? this seems like an ideal setup.

pod 11-13-2010 12:55 PM

I've done as little as 15gig with no problems. The setups are basic bare bones so dont need a ton of space

MadSam 11-13-2010 01:03 PM

I have partitions with as little as 10GB.

5MPdew 11-14-2010 03:45 AM

I do 20GB but honestly as long as its enough space to hold the windows install and install a couple applications it doesn't matter how small it is.

Installing multiple operations systems gets tedious, does anyone know how to install an OS and install the apps you want and then clone that OS and reinstall it over and over. I know you will need to go back and change certain things to make it unique but I think it would save time.

MtnDew 11-14-2010 05:45 AM

i 2nd the motion above lol

jhohman 11-14-2010 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5MPdew (Post 181855)
I do 20GB but honestly as long as its enough space to hold the windows install and install a couple applications it doesn't matter how small it is.

Installing multiple operations systems gets tedious, does anyone know how to install an OS and install the apps you want and then clone that OS and reinstall it over and over. I know you will need to go back and change certain things to make it unique but I think it would save time.

Why are you doing all that work for nothing in the first place? All you need to do it have 1PC with multiple user accounts, with a different IP and you are safe.

jhohman 11-14-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojo (Post 181714)
Question, how much hard drive space do you allocate to each partition? this seems like an ideal setup.

.oops no option to delete. I posted wrong comment...

jhohman 11-14-2010 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5MPdew (Post 181261)
Here is the method I use for my Amazon & eBay accounts and works great for me. I have several netbooks and they are all running Windows XP. I have 10 partitions on each hard drive with 10 different windows setups. This way every time I boot into one partition my MAC has already been changed with SMAC and do not have to do it again. I have DropBox installed on all my Windows XP installs with my Used IP’s & MAC addresses in an excel file with shortcuts dragged to the desktop. This makes it possible for me to have all my IP’s that I have used synced with all my computers. I am also running a wireless router running tomato firmware, so I can spoof my MAC address for each of my accounts very fast. This method works for me and DropBox has saved me lots of headaches.

You must be confused. a "MAC" Address is a unique number assigned to each hardware component within your computer. That number DOES NOT change. You must be referring to your IP address...either way, eBay and PayPal do not monitor your computers MAC address as they do not have permission from microsoft to get around windows firewall to do so. Im not sure why everyone on this thread is installing multiple operating systems, it will not protect you anymore then simply installing multiple user accounts. Trust me, I would know as I have been working with computers since I was 12, am a skilled computer programmer, builder, website owner, among other things.

pod 11-14-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 181889)
not protect you anymore then simply installing multiple user accounts.

I would know as I have been working with computers since I was 12, .

There is a huge difference. And no offense, if you are as computer literate as you say, you would have spotted them a mile away

Just a few

Different browser configurations. Whatever you do to firefox it will spread to every user account. They will all have the same plug-ins and settings.

Hardware can be enabled or disabled from OS to OS. User accounts can not do that. Net cards, modems, routers, etc, all automatic

I have my hardware setup for a couple of my main accounts that are already setup. When I boot into that OS it grabs the right router info and I dont have to mess with anything at all. It can actually be very effective and very efficient

You can only squeeze so many user accounts from one OS

It has all the advantages to user accounts and many more. So, not the same, at all.

5MPdew 11-14-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhohman (Post 181889)
You must be confused. a "MAC" Address is a unique number assigned to each hardware component within your computer. That number DOES NOT change. You must be referring to your IP address...either way, eBay and PayPal do not monitor your computers MAC address as they do not have permission from microsoft to get around windows firewall to do so. Im not sure why everyone on this thread is installing multiple operating systems, it will not protect you anymore then simply installing multiple user accounts. Trust me, I would know as I have been working with computers since I was 12, am a skilled computer programmer, builder, website owner, among other things.

I am referring to Amazon not eBay or Paypal. It is a known fact that Amazon monitors and tracks peoples "MAC" address. This is the reason we change it with SMAC. Please read the Amazon Stealth book if you are still confused. The reason I install multiple operating systems is because Amazon is known to do browser fingerprinting and with this they can pinpoint computer name, fonts installed, system resolution and the list goes on and on......Go to panopticlick.eff.org and read up.

MtnDew 11-15-2010 05:11 AM

thanks 5mpdew...ya im still looking for a way to install and get vm's up and running faster...

1. im lazy
2. prolly a way to do it more effectively

sojo 11-19-2010 06:32 PM

Not sure exactly how the process works but couldn't you create an image? Isn't that how the big IT shops do it when they have to install for multiple machines?

Found an article on the subject but haven't tried it myself. Good luck!!

http://blog.hishamrana.com/2006/02/2...st-and-sysprep

Or this might be easier if it works:

Clonezilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5MPdew (Post 181855)
I do 20GB but honestly as long as its enough space to hold the windows install and install a couple applications it doesn't matter how small it is.

Installing multiple operations systems gets tedious, does anyone know how to install an OS and install the apps you want and then clone that OS and reinstall it over and over. I know you will need to go back and change certain things to make it unique but I think it would save time.



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