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arshavin 11-22-2010 10:38 PM

Counterfeit Judgement
 
Sorry if this has already been posted.

Fitness firm wins $2.1 million in DVD piracy case - Los Angeles Times

How crazy is that!

SaiJin 11-22-2010 10:44 PM

Well, looks like he didn't bother responding to the lawsuit.

Of course that'll default as a win for BBody

123 11-22-2010 10:47 PM

ouch... he definitely going to have to file bankruptcy now

kris 11-22-2010 11:40 PM

WOW! Just wow!

Axcend 11-23-2010 12:02 AM

maybe its a stealth account and thats why no response O.o

jeffweico 11-23-2010 12:16 AM

When you are sued, and you don't show up (or send your attorney) to court, the plaintiff wins by default. Usually the judge gives them the amount requested. I'm sure that the attorneys for Beach Body calculated their damages in a way that was most advantageous to them.

More than 80% of judgments are never paid. Odds are the guy who got caught will file for bankruptcy. I doubt that even if you added up every dime he ever made in his entire life, it would not amount to $2.1 million.

But I'm sure that Beach Body never had any illusions that the judgment would be paid. Their goal was to send a message that if you sell counterfeits of their products, they WILL come after you.

Bottom line is, if you decide to sell counterfeits, you take this type of risk. There is no such thing as easy money.

Enigma 11-26-2010 12:01 AM

This is crazy lol. I have sold p90x on ebay and never received a letter. I sold about 50 sets, then when I started reading about the lawsuits I made sure to take the auctions down. I use to take my own pics, and blur out most of the words on the box. When a buyer would send me a message and asked why is the box so blurry, I would tell them that my cell phone didn't take very good pics. They sue for copyright infringement, so if they can't see there logo, I guess they can't sue. Who really knows.

123 11-26-2010 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 185270)
This is crazy lol. I have sold p90x on ebay and never received a letter. I sold about 50 sets, then when I started reading about the lawsuits I made sure to take the auctions down. I use to take my own pics, and blur out most of the words on the box. When a buyer would send me a message and asked why is the box so blurry, I would tell them that my cell phone didn't take very good pics. They sue for copyright infringement, so if they can't see there logo, I guess they can't sue. Who really knows.

Yeah I wouldn't mess with that stuff good thing you stopped, very high risk.

jbluntz 11-26-2010 02:02 AM

So looks likes poor bachelor couldn't be reached, shoot he's probably somebody on this forum lol can a stealth person even be sued? you would think they would need to verify you are who you are first.

123 11-26-2010 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 185283)
So looks likes poor bachelor couldn't be reached, shoot he's probably somebody on this forum lol can a stealth person even be sued? you would think they would need to verify you are who you are first.

I doubt they would pass judgement on his stealth name, probably was his real name I mean I would assume the court would be smart enough to verify whether its the right person or not.. lol

kris 11-26-2010 03:37 AM

stealth can always be traced back to you...

jamblix 11-26-2010 08:20 AM

Might sound harsh, but it's his own fault imo. Didn't do enough research, I mean if you're still trying to sell P90X. You either should have the system down entirely or be reckless and stupid enough take the risks head-on.

Not worth it for the profit anyways, there are far more profitable items you can find that are not such a pain to sell. Even when I first dabbled in the replica game I wasn't stupid enough to sell the P90X. Now that I know the system well enough to most likely be able to get away with it (for a short time at least), I STILL wouldn't do it.

Here We Go Again 11-26-2010 09:32 AM

I had a lawsuit against me a few years ago but the lovely Johnson Firm out in LA.
ALL they had was my stealth information.
They DID in fact file the lawsuit against my screen name.

The Judge threw the lawsuit out of court because they basically filed it against a ghost.

It was pretty damn funny to read about it through the court postings.

Axcend 11-26-2010 09:47 AM

Courts don't do anything more than they have to. It's up to the person filing the lawsuit to have all the correct information

123 11-26-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Here We Go Again (Post 185296)
I had a lawsuit against me a few years ago but the lovely Johnson Firm out in LA.
ALL they had was my stealth information.
They DID in fact file the lawsuit against my screen name.

The Judge threw the lawsuit out of court because they basically filed it against a ghost.

It was pretty damn funny to read about it through the court postings.

lmao thats hilarious and good to know

First Edition 11-26-2010 03:06 PM

It really doesn't matter what the judge files in civil court if the judgment cannot be collected. This doesn't mean beach body was given a check.....

Good the fella avoided jail, however.


One foofoo p90x - 47.99
One civil judgment - 2.1 million
Being free out of jail - Priceless

jbluntz 11-26-2010 07:39 PM

Why would he go to jail anyway if it's only a civil matter?

First Edition 11-26-2010 08:21 PM

Well he wouldn't :)

The only time someone can go to jail in a civil matter is if they violate a court order, such as with a restraining order for example. It's not often with counterfeiting there is a civil judgment only.

jbluntz 11-26-2010 08:34 PM

That's nice to know so now I can do a million in sales and not have to worry about a thing lol...

GreenBean 11-26-2010 08:49 PM

Sniffs! Bulldust about. :rolleyes:

@jbuntz, enough of those statements . If the law decides take action who knows who could get caught.


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