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NotAHappyBunny 05-04-2011 08:09 PM

Are there limits on a shop
 
hi

what happens if you open a shop and fork out £15 for it? Will they still restrict you if the items are not high-end?
I'm asking because a friend wants to do this

NotAHappyBunny 05-04-2011 08:15 PM

can a new verified seller open a shop?
 
hi


i have a friend who is freaking out - is about to invest lots of cash in equipment to produce products to sell on that God Almighty Marketplace.
I have been giving her lots of info about their tactics towards new sellers and she is convinced that if she opens a shop and pays her monthly shop fee £15 - that means they will let her list more than 10 items a month and infact let her list as many items as she wants (the items are not high-end or copy-righted), as she believes that they cant possibly take her cash for the month - then say goodbyeI however am not sure, does anyone know?

Many Thanks to everyone :clap:

RimmingTon 05-05-2011 01:22 AM

It will be ok provided she doesn't sell a massive amount too quickly.

ShadyOne 05-05-2011 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAHappyBunny (Post 226006)
hi

what happens if you open a shop and fork out £15 for it? Will they still restrict you if the items are not high-end?

Yes. Why would you think otherwise?

ShadyOne 05-05-2011 05:15 AM

Limits still apply to sellers who open shops.

Imakemoney 05-05-2011 07:01 AM

My man shady is correct, all selling limits are still in place if its a new account.

And I would advice them not to go listing like crazy at first, unless you are willin to send in the required documentation which they will ask for.

NotAHappyBunny 05-05-2011 10:26 AM

Hi

well she is legit so she will be willing to submit her info (what are they asking for now - uploads of docs or they want you to post the real ones in?)

She wants to run it right, but like i said expects to list many designs of the same type of product. Plus there will be multiples of the same product.


Thank you all

rsot 05-05-2011 10:48 AM

@Notahappybunny...I have seen a lot of stories of "he" and "she" and "my friend" - best bet is to get her on board so we can have full story and make straight recommendations.

She may learn a lot in the process.

As for your post, yes they can and have shut down people from the start - regardless of what was sold, etc. Tell her to have documentation ready and to go slow. All the best.

NotAHappyBunny 05-05-2011 11:12 AM

no really - its not me or i'd say so, not going to get good advice otherwise.

I have told her about my recent troubles and told her to be aware that they often act unfairly or cautiously even to totally legit sellers.

She can and will provide all genuine docs (she is verified, but like i said very new)- so basically give her the bad news that i was right - she probably wont be able to list 100 items straight away even if she pays for a shop.

Many Thanks

rsot 05-05-2011 11:42 AM

Kind of dangerous to list 100 items right away - tell her to list lightly, wait for feedback, and slowly build her store into a high confidence/reliable site - then the listings will go up.

You can also tell her to pm me for my consultation fee =)

ShadyOne 05-05-2011 04:29 PM

lol rsot, always after a fee for his services :D

Well, he's right, you should also tell your friend to do some research on the DSR ratings and the tips on how to keep these high.

So has your friend ever used the same user account as your suspended account?

I am just thinking that if she is in anyway linked to your suspended account, as soon as she does list or increase her volume, she may get suspended.

ShadyOne 05-05-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAHappyBunny (Post 226156)
a friend (totally legit) is planning to, selling non vero or high end products. What do you think it would be 100 per/mth? Even with a shop?

So do they tell new people not to bother opening a shop cos they wont let them list more than 10 items anyway?

Thsi person is totally legit and verified, but is very new to both companies.

Thanks

Damn bunny, you are hard to keep track of! :lol:

Good job your are getting stealth, it will answer all your 'panic time' questions, jumping other thread and confusing me! :D

NotAHappyBunny 05-05-2011 05:03 PM

i logged into it whilst on her laptop, on my network once if my memory serves me correctly.
She is always on my network also, using my connection - worried for her

ShadyOne 05-05-2011 05:07 PM

^^ Hmmm it sounds like a 'only time will tell' situation because you have bothed used the same IP address and user account at the same time, though this being some time before you actually got suspended.

NotAHappyBunny 05-05-2011 05:08 PM

oops sorry - im a bit frantic at the mo.

Yes I have read all of your well-knowledgeable replies - thank you x

U are a star
:clap:

mattytman 05-06-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadyOne (Post 226272)
^^ Hmmm it sounds like a 'only time will tell' situation because you have bothed used the same IP address and user account at the same time, though this being some time before you actually got suspended.

We know what the time will tell shades! Not like you to sit on the fence, lol...you'll get splinters in your a.r.s.e !! Same IP, same user account...game over...just depends when. :deadhorse: I just hate it when you know you have made a linking error.

It's like riding a bike with a loose wheel...everything is fine...starts to get wobbly...then whamoo...you ride over the 'suspension' bridge and it all goes pete tong.

GrannyT 05-06-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattytman (Post 226506)
you ride over the 'suspension' bridge and it all goes pete tong.

He was in my class at school. He used to sit next to Gerry Atrick:hail:

stillselling 05-06-2011 11:48 AM

Got a question on a legit account? Have your daughter call eBay. Get it straight from the horse's mouth.

High DSR is not a big secret. Don't do what you did.

And as for the 100 items? I say to list them all. It's a legit account, you (I meant your daughter) can provide the info to get it unlocked. Besides, if the account could be linked to yours, find out now when this account is still new.

GrannyT 05-06-2011 11:53 AM

Bit of info on new accounts. Account formed last week - 105 items listed this week.
The secret? VAT number listed with EB (Not mine I should add):eek:

NotAHappyBunny 05-06-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillselling (Post 226509)

And as for the 100 items? I say to list them all. It's a legit account, you (I meant your daughter)

hi!

Well there are 2 acc at risk - both with different levels of risk.

1. Daughter's - real - verified - but opened on my pc, my add, my surname etc - plus i transfered finds between p;p acc once or twice - all before the restriction on my acc.

2. Friend - no relation - verified, not sharing same add, but is ALWAYS round mine lending my connection (wireless bb). So IP sharing - plus once for about 5 mins, I opened my acc on her laptop - all before the restriction.


Im pretty sure they will unjustly punish my daughter for her link to me - but if they do it to my friend - well, they are gonna be in for a fight, cos she's already talking about legal action and all sorts of bad publicity if they do.

PS - What i did was not bad - just a few low dsr's a 2 neagtives from 6-9 months ago - 5-6 mths apart - no unsolved claims etc.

Many Thanks Everyone

stillselling 05-06-2011 12:20 PM

Seriously, have your friend find out directly from THEM.

I chuckle everytime I read about legal actions against THEM. But I never thought I would see it from someone outside of the US. Stop worrying about things that haven't happened yet. You're scarying yourself and her into inaction.

Ok, your DSR is great, just not good enough to sell on THEIR site. Move on, you can start your own website, take GC and set your own shipping terms. GC will even let you hold a CC authorization for 168 hrs. Avoid Amaz on, they're bitchier than THEM.

ShadyOne 05-06-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattytman (Post 226506)
We know what the time will tell shades! Not like you to sit on the fence, lol...you'll get splinters in your a.r.s.e !! Same IP, same user account...game over...just depends when. :deadhorse: I just hate it when you know you have made a linking error.

It's like riding a bike with a loose wheel...everything is fine...starts to get wobbly...then whamoo...you ride over the 'suspension' bridge and it all goes pete tong.

Haha, matt your posts make me laugh! :lol:

@Bunny, your asnwer is simple, use the your daughters account BUT open up some stealth accounts. If your daughters account goes down, well, you still have stealths then ;)

As for your friend possibly linked account, she may still get something out of the account or she may not. What is...is! :noidea:

Good luck bunny, get some stealth accounts open whilst you are using your daughters account. Just remember to keep all accounts sperate from eachother. :thumb:

GreenBean 05-06-2011 09:40 PM

Word to the wise.
Forum does not do third party advice. If the friend is that eager to do ebay, let them do the hard graft.

Not because your heart is not in the right place, 'Bunny because I know for sure it is, but if you make an error in translating the info OR they have not told you the correct facts, then there might be dramas. result, a hacked off lazy friend :tears:

Work on your own accounts. :peace:

NotAHappyBunny 05-06-2011 10:24 PM

no - i understand what you are saying - i have enough on my plate at the mo :(

Its not just a normal user acc - she & her hubby have a family and they are about to invest a significant amount of cash and go legit - cos they can and want to run it right.
They are total newbies when it comes to p;p and e;b and was just getting some help from me a couple of weeks ago - then the restriction came.

Now she still keeps visiting me - laughing at me when i freak out about her using my network and using e;b (she's researching the market and keeping an eye out for an expensive equipment bargain)- she thinks im being daft & paranoid and they surely cannot be that unreasonable - (that's the newbie naive attitude we all had at first).

She is gonna do the hard graft - its nothing at all to do with me. Im just a not-so-innocent friendly internet connection for her when she's visiting (which is a lot lately!)

Anyway - ive warned her over & over so not much more I can do.:pry:

Thanks to you all :yar:

GreenBean 05-06-2011 10:28 PM

Be careful of her TOUCHING your internet then.

It's not worth the risk to YOU. :pop2:

NotAHappyBunny 05-06-2011 11:09 PM

im going onto PAUG dongle for stealth - cant use my own connection anymore :eek:

I have logged 4 the last time last night (my real acc), to find pay for my last items, and mark the last purchase as dispatched. Im gonna miss that account - i had 900 FB (mainly from buying) (had about 8 new FB from very happy buyers too :( ). I had to use my connection/ip.
Im only going to re log in if i have to bring up a dispute over non-reciept of items (i have stuff coming from abroad) - or should i just go into pp for this if i need to.

But my daughters's acc - which is still up - 6 days and counting now (since i was restricted) is being accessed on the same network; occasionally (about 2-3 times per week - less when she cant list anymore items).

She just sold 4 items out of 5. They are only giving her 10 a month lol.
I formatted her HD (as she used to use my acc on her laptop all the time) and renamed her pc/user name to her real name.

I thought they could not base links on just IP? (im thinking of my friend - not my daughter, as i am 99% sure they will take her down with me grrr)

Imakemoney 05-07-2011 05:39 AM

they dont form a solid link on just IP but it may mean they look closer at your account if your sharing IP with a suspended account..

Its more likely that you've been caught out with cookies or similar details on the accounts - or could even be selling similar products and using same photos and descriptions?

ShadyOne 05-07-2011 05:52 AM

@Bunny, you have the stealth guide now, you also appear to be using the forum properly. Asking and searching.

Your daughters account seems to be limited and if it is not new then her selling history must be below standard. So if you are going to be using this, make sure you increase the DSR's and make sure your daughter stops selling on it.

With 10 items a month limit, you might as well open your own stealth accounts for sure, I understand that your daughter can provide ID but this is to only way to increase your limits. Forget abour having to provide documents for a stealth account for now, just wait until it happens, you may find away around it by then ;)

Don't forget to keep accounts SEPERATE. That means the pajama party with your friend using your internet has to stop. DONGLE ALL THE WAY :D


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