experimenting and this is what i found

stugots · #23 11-15-2011

I actually use the 800#

just finished an experiment with amazon thats worth mentioning.

it was 2 in 1 actually, wen i first started I noticed amazon ALWAYS clipped every account 2 - 3 days before the first settlement date, so i made 11 accounts used simular pics but not the same, just wanted to compare what was what, mind u all different settlement dates (they were made at different times) FULL STEALTH ACCOUNTS THO, new ip/email/nam/addy/number EVERYTHING, would you know they closed ALL 11, 2 -3 days before settlement date, and all with different excuses, its done on purpose we know this for sure now. they figure if u send out items and get held for 90 days ull go broke and wont make a new account.

mercurial333 · #24 11-15-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugots

I actually use the 800#

just finished an experiment with amazon thats worth mentioning.

it was 2 in 1 actually, wen i first started I noticed amazon ALWAYS clipped every account 2 - 3 days before the first settlement date, so i made 11 accounts used simular pics but not the same, just wanted to compare what was what, mind u all different settlement dates (they were made at different times) FULL STEALTH ACCOUNTS THO, new ip/email/nam/addy/number EVERYTHING, would you know they closed ALL 11, 2 -3 days before settlement date, and all with different excuses, its done on purpose we know this for sure now. they figure if u send out items and get held for 90 days ull go broke and wont make a new account.

Bwhahhahah

doughboykilla · #25 11-15-2011

half.com plays this way the expect u to ship off the items then wait 14-18 days to get paid and if u get banned for any reason u dont get paid. LOL not this homeboy i would NEVER ship anything out unless i got paid first. I even posted on the gay HDC fourms about what happens if u got banned before getting paid a few do gooders of hdc posted if u sell right u wont get banned but they never would answare the ? just jumped around it then the mod delete the post off there after i told people they would be screwed out there funds if they shipped first then was to get banned before getting paid.

LoopHole · #26 11-15-2011

These accounts that you experiment with, are you turning them into "sellers" right away or just keeping them as buyers?

rsot · #27 11-16-2011

@stugots - /quote used simular pics... - how do you do this? Are you not obligated to use Az photos on file?

yotano211 · #28 11-20-2011

7. moneybookers is an awesome company and dont care if you screw ebay and they will give you unlimited accounts to do so, you can only link 1 ebay to each moneybookers account so each stealth has to have its own moneybookers account, I have about 60 under my OWN name and told them why, they have no problem with it.

Does this mean I can have many stealth accounts linked with moneybookers but I have to tell them (MB) about it. I will call them to find out.

FandangoKango · #29 11-20-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugots

I actually use the 800#

just finished an experiment with amazon thats worth mentioning.

it was 2 in 1 actually, wen i first started I noticed amazon ALWAYS clipped every account 2 - 3 days before the first settlement date, so i made 11 accounts used simular pics but not the same, just wanted to compare what was what, mind u all different settlement dates (they were made at different times) FULL STEALTH ACCOUNTS THO, new ip/email/nam/addy/number EVERYTHING, would you know they closed ALL 11, 2 -3 days before settlement date, and all with different excuses, its done on purpose we know this for sure now. they figure if u send out items and get held for 90 days ull go broke and wont make a new account.

So why does amazon ban just cause they don't want more sellers?

stugots · #30 12-09-2011

sorry I have not updated in awhile I had an issue with the fourm that Aspkin fixed (thanks)

but I have been trying new things and heres some updates.

to answer the question above yes I turn them into sellers asap, but my first listing is always something like a book or something (dont use dvds)

ok I found a way to shorten your 21 day hold, sell as normal until the little 30 day icon besides your ebay id goes away, THEN make a new paypal account (different name) USING a new windows user ID, dont need a real phone number, use a pre paid cc. edit all your active listings to put this new paypal acount as your payment method

NOW delete your old user ID for this account and use this one as the new one, all payment will be available ASAP/

what I have been doing as of late that seems to be working, instead of getting 500 bank accounts, I JUST put a cc (pre paid) on my paypals and when moneys available I sent it to a "fully verified" paypal that does ALL of my withdrawing to 1 bank account, I send the money to this account NOT gift it, and always leave a memo acting like your a customer.

moneybookers finally clipped me, lol I guess after 47 accounts all with ebays attached they get a little funny (jackasses lol) so the closed ALL of mine, no 6 month holds tho, so they own me nothing.

next, if you get a paypal limited but ebay is fine, JUST make a new paypal (REMEMBER NEW WINDWS USER ID) works perfect.

also ebay does some CRAZY form of cookies tracking that I (a computer tech for 15 years) cant figure, I got 1 paypal limited, cleaned that windows user id with everything I know of, disk cleanup, cookies, history/temp, used windows washer, and system mechanic, even defraged, changed Ip's they, new name/phone/cc/addy ect, limited in 5 mins, I called they knew it was linked to my stealth that was just cliped.

made a new windows user ID, made a new one WORKED PERFECT, so whatever they put in your system is SERIOUS stuff and I cant find it, never rely on clearing cookies ect..

if at all possible ship using paypals labels, your money will be available alot sooner.

ill be making more updates soon, now that IM BACK B!TCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jamblix · #31 12-09-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugots

ok I found a way to shorten your 21 day hold, sell as normal until the little 30 day icon besides your ebay id goes away, THEN make a new paypal account (different name) USING a new windows user ID, dont need a real phone number, use a pre paid cc. edit all your active listings to put this new paypal acount as your payment method

NOW delete your old user ID for this account and use this one as the new one, all payment will be available ASAP/

Always nice to see someone walking the walk.

I wonder, can you elaborate on the 21-day hold bypass. So, you're saying if I make an eB and PayP under the name John sell until the 30 day marker is gone, create a new Payp under the name Mark attach this new Payp to the eB account under John the 21-day hold will no longer be in effect?

oge · #32 12-09-2011

I wouldn't think it would work as mismatching names causes problems............... it also seems like ebay did a overhaul and implimented Paypal more so it can catch these kind of things......

planes · #33 12-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugots

also ebay does some CRAZY form of cookies tracking that I (a computer tech for 15 years) cant figure, I got 1 paypal limited, cleaned that windows user id with everything I know of, disk cleanup, cookies, history/temp, used windows washer, and system mechanic, even defraged, changed Ip's they, new name/phone/cc/addy ect, limited in 5 mins, I called they knew it was linked to my stealth that was just cliped.

made a new windows user ID, made a new one WORKED PERFECT, so whatever they put in your system is SERIOUS stuff and I cant find it, never rely on clearing cookies ect..

Try the "better privacy" addon to firefox. this gets rid of supper cookies-a flash type of cookie eBy uses.

stugots · #34 12-10-2011

I spoke to ebay AND paypal myself you ARE allowed to have a paypal in someone elses name as long as neither account has any issues (which neither do in this case)

Jamblix EXACTLY

stugots · #35 12-10-2011

Also, I started paymate, you CAN lie to these people and use your stealth name, my stealths that have been screwed by moneybookers this week and now ALL on paymate (no cc required either)

these people send directly to your checking account

stugots · #36 12-10-2011

even know they SAY you can dont believe moneybookers OR propay or paymate, never make a bunch of accounts under your name, they claim to allow it but then it throws red flags, also with moneybookers, their service reps dont know sh!t, (kinda like ebay) and their compliance team will screw with you.

madmuppet303 · #37 12-11-2011

Awesome info.
Thank you for sharing these tricks and secrets. Much appreciated.

Mzgr3k0 · #38 12-11-2011

Thanks heaps !!!!!!! =]]]

LoopHole · #39 12-11-2011

I think you should take it to the next level and apply for a job at pp

rsot · #40 12-12-2011

stugots, while I have not tested all you have stated - the fact that you have elected to share this info is exceptional. Very solid testing - always good.

stugots · #41 12-12-2011

I am actually in the process of testing paymate, I need a little help from the community tho, I am going to make a thread about this but if anyone reading this here can chime in that would be great.

I liked my paymate account to ebay, it was accepted, I dont need a merchent account (yet anyway), it states active, this account meets all the requirments and has been approved, how when buyers try to pay it says "Seller has not set up their account to receive payments yet. Please contact Paymate and advise seller"

these dumb people dont answer their phones, EVER any paymate guru's here? what can I do?

Thanks

after I get this settled im gonna have a TON of experiments with paymate

Hercules · #42 12-12-2011

The last time I checked if you go below 98%FB at Paymate it's over.
And that disbursements are at 2 week intervals...
I think you have to go inside EB to connect Paymate the proper way.
I'm going back a year or so in my mind so take heed.
I don't use them

jamblix · #43 12-12-2011

Yeah, I used Paymate about a year ago to. They were pretty awesome and other then buyers WHO DON'T READ THE AUCTION TERMS things went pretty smoothly. Actually thinking back, even if the buyer thought it was Payp it was pretty easy persuading them to trust Paymate and make the payment.

"Seller has not set up their account to receive payments yet. Please contact Paymate and advise seller"

I did not come across this as soon as Paymate accepted me as a merchant and I linked the Paymate to eB, things were smooth sailing. And I do agree they're customer service isn't really up to par, but they will answer and help you...eventually.

stugots · #44 12-12-2011

yeah they want to run a credit check and everything, no more standard accounts only merch, SCREW THAT.

next I wanna experiment with gateways and credit cards, anyone know a good gateway (maybe even free) that works with ebay? I know which merch im gonna use already