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Sandy D 03-21-2012 07:01 PM

Anyone else believe ebay is padding the feedback numbers?
 
I have had this suspicion for a long while but do to some recent newer accounts and trying to get them to 25 fb I am begging people for feedback pretty much.

I have sold 10 items on this account for 2 months for a total of 20.

This month 10 more items have sold.

Trying to get to the 25 to see if they lift my pp limits I began begging buyers to leave feedback.

In my pasting emails I nicely begged them to do so.

In the 15 messages I sent out I got 6 messages back saying they had already left feedback. So I checked and no feedback. So I again asked those 6 to please resend feedback as it is not showing up.

5 of them responded by saying they did so again.

Again, no feedback showing.

Anyone else see this happening?

Is it they are trying to keep us from getting to 25 fb so we cannot have the pp funds not held anymore?

We know they can move the fb around but for this to happen tells me they are padding the feedbacks on our accounts.

Thankful 03-21-2012 07:25 PM

Hmm very worrying....

Could turn out to be an interesting thread folks.

hackteck 03-21-2012 07:37 PM

yea but its 25 transactions not feedbacks according to ebay doesnt say those transactions need to leave feedback

It's been more than 90 days since your first successful sale;
You've had more than 25 sales transactions; and
You've had more than $250 in total sales.

Sandy D 03-21-2012 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackteck (Post 323620)
yea but its 25 transactions not feedbacks according to ebay doesnt say those transactions need to leave feedback

It's been more than 90 days since your first successful sale;
You've had more than 25 sales transactions; and
You've had more than $250 in total sales.

I have more then both and found that those who said they left feedback and those who said they re did the feedback and it still did not show up.

Do you think they are purposely not allowing feedback?

And the pp holds for me have always been once I got 25 good fbs with good dsrs the pp holds were removed.

Thankful 03-21-2012 07:52 PM

Perhap they put a time limit on that account for fb - as in the buyer can't leave fb from the purchase date upto 3 weeks or what ever time they set? what do you think?

Sandy D 03-21-2012 08:21 PM

Something is up as I just thought about it as I was trying to get as many accounts as I can up to 25fb and 90 days and starting begging for fb and noticed this once people wrote back and said "Hey, I already left your feedback".

Then when they said they left it again and it did not show up I then realized something was up.

newjerseymax 03-21-2012 09:10 PM

Your post makes me think of this commercial...

"beggin beggi beggin"


Are they low priced items?

jamcocktail21 03-21-2012 09:20 PM

I have a few new accounts and all buyers left me feedback also when i send the package Print a paper A4 witch say...

Thank you for your purchase....Will appreciate your positive feedback

Sandy D 03-21-2012 10:06 PM

The thread is not about asking for feedback.

The thread is about whether ebay is not counting or posting feedbacks that have been left by buyers.

newjerseymax 03-21-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy D (Post 323641)
The thread is not about asking for feedback.

The thread is about whether ebay is not counting or posting feedbacks that have been left by buyers.


Yea sorry my beggin bit didn't help... Probably why my question was missed..

Are these low priced items your selling? I read on here recently of someone they removed all low priced feedback, but left higher priced ones. I was wondering if yours fell into that category?

Gamefreak 03-21-2012 11:32 PM

I seem to be having no problems getting feedback. Out of 13 transactions I got 10 feedback so far. I ship same day and buyer receive item in 1-3 days. Its the stupid limit that is killing me sales :(

Sandy D 03-22-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newjerseymax (Post 323645)
Yea sorry my beggin bit didn't help... Probably why my question was missed..

Are these low priced items your selling? I read on here recently of someone they removed all low priced feedback, but left higher priced ones. I was wondering if yours fell into that category?

I was not referring to you post Max. You are good.

Sandy D 03-22-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamefreak (Post 323659)
I seem to be having no problems getting feedback. Out of 13 transactions I got 10 feedback so far. I ship same day and buyer receive item in 1-3 days. Its the stupid limit that is killing me sales :(

It has NOTHING to do with getting feedback.

It is everything to do with ebay holding back feedback that was left for you.

Please read my first posting.

I was left feedback by several buyers yet it was not ever posted or counted.

I believe ebay is purposely leaving fb off.

unkown5454 03-22-2012 01:56 AM

And when you click on the customer's profile and select to see only feedback left for others, what do you see?

jamblix 03-22-2012 02:10 AM

Interesting...

I stopped asking for feedback, I always only get about 50% feedback on all accounts either way. That would be a really shady thing for eB to be doing but, if this is actually happening I would think it would have been discussed more.

I mean it's a pretty big deal for eB to be intentionally deleting or removing positive feedback left to sellers. Have you checked your buyers feedback page and clicked on feedback left to sellers tab? Maybe you can contact the buyers that said they left feedback and explain to them the situation and your predictions on what's going on and see how they respond.

KingRay 03-22-2012 04:44 AM

I would in this case just call ebay and ask them about it. Just tell them that the feedback for a few buyers are not showing up. Tell them that a few of them have said they gave me feedback but nothing shows they did. Just flat out ask them. cant hurt.

There really isnt any way for you to know for sure what is going on unless they tell you.

Thats how I get the right info when I need it. There has been some thing they know nothing about too though. lol

Sneakee 03-22-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 323692)
And when you click on the customer's profile and select to see only feedback left for others, what do you see?

Please check this out. I'm curious to see if it's showing up in their "feedback left for others" page.

rsot 03-22-2012 10:10 AM

@Sandy_D - be careful about soliciting feedback - some members will left you negative or neutral if they find you as a "harassment".

I have never had eb holding back feedback...

Sandy D 03-22-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 323692)
And when you click on the customer's profile and select to see only feedback left for others, what do you see?

HOLY CRAP UNKNOWN

Great idea and guess what?

Five of them are showing feedback left for me that is not showing up in my profile.

Never thought of doing this, thanks unknown for the awesome idea.

Now I know they are holding back feedback.

unkown5454 03-22-2012 02:40 PM

Proof of their scamming ways right on their own website in the open for the world to see. Hopefully you can call them and bring the pitchforks.

Take some screen shots before it's too late.

Sneakee 03-22-2012 11:43 PM

No way. Seriously? What the heck is going on?

rsot 03-23-2012 09:30 AM

Anyone else had the same deal as Sandy_D? I have not.

hackteck 03-23-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 324172)
Anyone else had the same deal as Sandy_D? I have not.

Not me

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Sandy D 03-23-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 324172)
Anyone else had the same deal as Sandy_D? I have not.

How would you know unless you were looking and had buyer tell you they left it and it did not show up?

You said you do not beg for feedback so you would not know unless you were looking for the feedback and it did not show.

I begged for it and got messages it was left, then when I go to the fb it is not there. So I thought the buyer was lying.

Now today I see the idea of checking the fb left so I did and it is there and the fb is now being counted.

Then I go to the fb left and it is showing as left but not counted on my scores.

How weird is that?

Tells me we have some spying eyes or something.

rsot 03-23-2012 12:58 PM

@Sandy_D, my tone wasn't accusatory in any nature but the entire thing is very weird. That's why I was trying to assess if this has happened to others.

Could have been an isolated glitch on your account - or some manual review issue.

Sandy D 03-23-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 324246)
@Sandy_D, my tone wasn't accusatory in any nature but the entire thing is very weird. That's why I was trying to assess if this has happened to others.

Could have been an isolated glitch on your account - or some manual review issue.

I know that. I was not smart enough to do a dang screenshot until after it was posted here.

How odd is it that fb has been left and then does not show up?

With all the things eb is doing lately I would not put it past them to be holding back fb on accounts that are moving along quickly so when you call pp and ask why are they holding funds they have an excuse.

I just smell a rat with this for some reason.

I too wondered if anyone would noticed this but thought if you are not looking for it you would not see it.

Gman91189 03-23-2012 01:36 PM

here's the thing, if you have the same buyers within a short period of time, ebay will basically COMPILE the feedback together as ONE

so yes, everyone has experienced this before in this case

but Just a SINGLE buyer you never sold to before, i dont think i have, then again, i have about 20+ accounts and pretty hard to keep up with how many feedbacks in each account...
plus, feedback is technally not THAT important, i dont think theres much difference between, 40 and 90 feedback really.
there more i would be worried about is How old ones account is....

unkown5454 03-23-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman91189 (Post 324261)
here's the thing, if you have the same buyers within a short period of time, ebay will basically COMPILE the feedback together as ONE

This period of time is known as 7 days aka 1 week.

Sneakee 03-23-2012 03:20 PM

I'm going to try and take a look for you. It won't be thorough but I'll check some buyers on all my accounts and see if there is any feedback missing.

Sneakee 03-23-2012 03:43 PM

I checked some random ones on my ids and can't find any.

Sandy - Have you noticed either a certain day all these feedback were placed?

Or maybe a certain day the sale happened?

Or timespan?

Callidus 03-23-2012 03:53 PM

Yes totally agree, I am having to beg people for feedback aswell... people either arent leaving it or something else is going on, very wierd

seanws30 03-23-2012 05:20 PM

well according to paypal they hold funds in a non interest bearing account so i dont know what they gain by holding funds longer than necessary.

but with ebay, anything is possible. i have to say i dont pay too much attention to my feedback anymore. to me it really doesnt matter. ebay is going to do whatever they want and interpret your info however they want so if i get feedback great, if not oh well.

as far as the limits on accounts go, ive been kind of slacking with my listings lately and havent really been buying and re-selling lately. but if push comes to shove, ill just open more and more accounts.

biggunn 03-25-2012 11:05 PM

Need to look into this a lot more. It could very well just be a glitch on that 1 account. Definitely get some screenshots. But seems like a glitch until we find a 2nd account out there with the same symptoms.

Sandy D 03-26-2012 12:45 AM

I am planning on doing this with another newer account with 15 or so fb to test it.

The only reason it hit me was when I asked buyers to please leave fb and when they all said they already did, I checked and it was not showing.

With me I see the sneaks doing this to keep us down and under their numbers.

Everyone needs to keep an eye on your fb on newer accounts to see if this has or is happening to you.

hackteck 03-26-2012 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy D (Post 324970)
I am planning on doing this with another newer account with 15 or so fb to test it.

The only reason it hit me was when I asked buyers to please leave fb and when they all said they already did, I checked and it was not showing.

With me I see the sneaks doing this to keep us down and under their numbers.

Everyone needs to keep an eye on your fb on newer accounts to see if this has or is happening to you.

Yea but it seems like so far its just you with this issue so I believe it was an error or a glitch

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Javelin 03-26-2012 01:00 AM

You talking about the 21 day Paypal holds? I got mine lifted recently on a new account,
all it took was for me to put a tracking number on both eBay and Paypal during
the same day the item was paid for. Shipped it within 1 day, Paypal tracked the
package until it was delivered and voila, they lifted the holds within 6 hours
of the item being delivered. Got an official email from Paypal about the lifting.
And this was on a 7 feedback account that was less than 3 months old.

rsot 03-26-2012 10:20 AM

@Javelin, thread is about some weird feedback held from Sandy_D's account - not the 21 day hold.

Sneakee 03-26-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackteck (Post 324974)
Yea but it seems like so far its just you with this issue so I believe it was an error or a glitch

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This is what I'm inclined to believe at this point as well.

Callidus 03-26-2012 03:51 PM

Ok so what happens then when you have an account with 21 day holds and then when customers leave feedback on your profile does it release the funds or what's happening?!

biggunn 03-26-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hdavey10 (Post 325188)
Ok so what happens then when you have an account with 21 day holds and then when customers leave feedback on your profile does it release the funds or what's happening?!

This thread is not about the 21-day hold... Do some searches and there are also a few stickys.


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