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Bingo 03-29-2012 03:06 PM

Buyer not yet receive item & left Neg fb without communication
 
A buyer just left me a Red without contacting me first, saying that he hasn't received his item yet (already 40days to Russia).
I already refunded and sent a request to revise FB. In case the buyer doesn't response, what can I do to have the Red removed? I don't believe Ebay will remove for me because this is my fault not making the buyer satisfied.
If I offer him some money (besides refunded amount) to remove, does this violate Ebay's policies? If so, should I send him a private message to offer?
Please share me your own experience.
Thanks.

NoneOther 03-29-2012 03:29 PM

Yes it is.

You can only hope that refunding him is enough to make him reverse the f/b

Gamefreak 03-29-2012 04:47 PM

you made crucial mistake. Communicate with buyer first get them to remove feedback then refund.

GreenBean 03-29-2012 05:48 PM

Shipping to RUSSIA was also unwise.

Postage to there from November to April ( their winter) is often delayed.


Re-consider your shipping destinations.

OK to sell an item but if shipping delays cause damage to the account not so good:rip:

Bingo 03-29-2012 06:21 PM

haizzzzzzzzzzzzz

GreenBean 03-29-2012 06:32 PM

I guess you said you are upset? :juggle:

Bingo 03-29-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 326213)
I guess you said you are upset? :juggle:

Am I not? What can I do? :D
However, this is just a minor problem compared to my concern in my latest post regarding PP requiring SSN on all accounts (if you already read it).

Bingo 03-29-2012 10:45 PM

I just checked his fb left for other sellers.

Guess what? He opened case for 30 other sellers with the same problem, WTH???

jamblix 03-29-2012 11:20 PM

This is why I don't ship internationally, besides a few exceptions who I know will pay and cause no problems. One neg isn't so grim, it looks bad at first but, sooner or later it'll be lost in a sea of green if you play your cards right.

Javelin 03-29-2012 11:37 PM

Mistake: Shipping to the Russian Federation. It's a complete No-No.
To go along with Italy, entire continent of Africa, and some parts of South America
like Brazil.

NEVER ship to these destinations, it's their MO to do these kinds of stuff.

NoneOther 03-30-2012 03:25 AM

The alternative is to ship everything using tracked mail.

More expensive I know but they are paying and if you clearly state in your listing that you use only tracked mail for overseas shipping it deters the scammers and if you get a buyer then they are usually genuine in my experience.

I ship to all the above with the exception of Africa and never have an issue because its tracked.

Bingo 03-30-2012 06:34 AM

I am selling items that are hard to sell in the US only. That is why I can't avoid international shipping. And unfortunately, many of my buyers are from Brazil, I haven't had any problem with Brazilian so far, but I think need to reconsider.
And also, I can't use tracking because the shipping cost will be equal to the item costs themselves, no one is going to buy my items with tracking fee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 326201)
Shipping to RUSSIA was also unwise.

Postage to there from November to April ( their winter) is often delayed.


Thanks, is that because the severe weather causes the airplane delay or due to their custom?

NoneOther 03-30-2012 06:38 AM

Their customs service are a nightmare and the reason for most delays.

NoneOther 03-30-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo (Post 326367)
And also, I can't use tracking because the shipping cost will be equal to the item costs themselves, no one is going to buy my items with tracking fee.

I send stuff all over the world and often the shipping cost is higher than the item cost.

Don't forget some items are very hard to come by in many countries and are considered highly desirable so buyer will pay whatever if its what they want.

In my experience most of these are being bought to sell on anyway so for the right stuff they will pay

GreenBean 03-30-2012 06:44 AM

@Bingo

Their Customs are so bad. The internal postal service is nearly non-existent.

Bad combination for international freight. :juggle:

Been one of their worst winters. In January 15 people froze to death in the capital.(homeless Muscovites).

NoneOther 03-30-2012 06:44 AM

Must have run out of vodka

Bingo 03-30-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 326371)
Must have run out of vodka

hehehe
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 326369)
I send stuff all over the world and often the shipping cost is higher than the item cost.

Don't forget some items are very hard to come by in many countries and are considered highly desirable so buyer will pay whatever if its what they want.

In my experience most of these are being bought to sell on anyway so for the right stuff they will pay

Do you consider tax issue when doing this?
If the shipping cost is too high, you will reach 20k very quickly but your income is just similar to selling locally.
Anyway, perhaps you're selling something that international buyers are so desirable to pay for Express mail. They like my items too but there are many sellers selling the same items as mine so I'm not sure they will accept to pay extra for me :D

NoneOther 03-30-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo (Post 326484)
hehehe

Do you consider tax issue when doing this?
If the shipping cost is too high, you will reach 20k very quickly but your income is just similar to selling locally.
:D

Not an issue for me I'm UK based business seller fully verified p/p account, no limits

Bingo 03-30-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 326485)
Not an issue for me I'm UK based business seller fully verified p/p account, no limits

So based on which amount will you have to pay tax? Sorry I don't know about UK rules.

NoneOther 03-30-2012 03:13 PM

Nett income.

Postage costs are a legitimate business expense and are deducted from gross income along with other allowable expenses like premises, phone, internet etc

Bingo 03-30-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 326522)
Nett income.

Postage costs are a legitimate business expense and are deducted from gross income along with other allowable expenses like premises, phone, internet etc

Oh that's very nice, I think it's fairer than charging on sales of 20k.

NoneOther 03-30-2012 03:33 PM

Obviously that only applies to legitimate businesses not private individuals who, if they actually declare the income from e/b sales would be taxed on the full amount.

Bingo 03-30-2012 05:19 PM

Thanks for your info.
Come back to my problem. The buyer already revised FB after receiving refund which is the same thing he did with the other 30 sellers.
However, I have learned that sellers can only have 5 revised cases among 1k fb, I already 2 cases :mad2:

GreenBean 03-30-2012 05:24 PM

Then you stop right now.

You re-do your business plan.

You can not afford to be using up your revisals.

It's serious stuff. :peace:

Sandy D 03-30-2012 11:19 PM

Total amount ran through pp

Take off your total expenses for purchases, postage, supplies, gas/mileage office supplies, storage rent, overhead, computer, printer or anything you use for your business. Includes if you use a room in your house for business purposes etc.

Paypal xx,xxx
Total Expenses x,xxx
Profit Made x,xxx

Tax due and need to be paid on total profit made.

GreenBean 03-30-2012 11:34 PM

As well as making sure you see a TAX Professional to esure everything is in order. :yar:

Bingo 04-02-2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 326666)
As well as making sure you see a TAX Professional to esure everything is in order. :yar:

Please give me some advise on finding a tax professional. Does he/she need to know much about Paypal? OR Paypal stuff is just similar to many other businesses and any experienced tax professional can give good advice?

rsot 04-02-2012 01:15 PM

While a neg. feedback is annoying, best way is 1) block this guy 2) work something out to TRY and remove his feedback...doubtable but worth an effort 3) up your sales of low end items and increase positive feedback. 1 neg is unlikely to kill you but avoid the international sales then to certain countries.

Thankful 04-02-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo (Post 326275)
I just checked his fb left for other sellers.

Guess what? He opened case for 30 other sellers with the same problem, WTH???


30 Others you say? :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Call the lumberjackers from Canada it's hunting season!! :D

rsot 04-02-2012 02:08 PM

Let's git him! ha

Bingo 04-03-2012 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 327421)
While a neg. feedback is annoying, best way is 1) block this guy 2) work something out to TRY and remove his feedback...doubtable but worth an effort 3) up your sales of low end items and increase positive feedback. 1 neg is unlikely to kill you but avoid the international sales then to certain countries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanxful (Post 327425)
30 Others you say? :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Call the lumberjackers from Canada it's hunting season!! :D

Yes, 30 other sellers. He's abusing the neg fb.
He already removed the red for me after I refunded him.
I think the way he did is to give the RED right away so that sellers have no choice to refuse refunding, then after receiving refund, he revises his fb.
Ebay made an appointment to train me over the phone how to sell and run my store. I'm about to report this buyer when I talk to them to see what they say.
By the way, is it normal that Ebay calls to train sellers how to sell?
What do they ask and tell you?


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