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NoneOther 04-04-2012 10:05 AM

Because Chrome is invasive and searches other data on the hard drive.

Just because you have separate user accounts does not make the data for individual accounts 'invisible'.

In addition Windows user account are not the most secure environment, that is where Mac OSX or Linux are superior, user accounts stay private.

slapped 04-04-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyT (Post 328166)
I used to do it but ShadyOne convinced me to go the user account route - time to dig out the old machines me thinks



No Need to do that Young lady,,,User accounts are fine,,,Just make sure that some of your settings like screen Resolution, Desktop, Font size or Font type is different,,,Different browsers is good also,,different add ons,,like toolbars (AVG, Google, Yahoo, ect ect),Adobe Flash, Reader, Different Antivirus,,go to the website I Linked below,,,there you can learn all about Browser Fingerprinting,,and even get your system ,,"Fingerprinted" so you can see Just how unique your fingerptint is,,

Notice all the different aspects of your settings that the site looks at in order to create a "Fingerprint",,,Ebay/Paypal/Amazon check even MORE aspects to get an even MORE ACCURATE Fingerprint,,,Now understand that this site does this for FREE,,so anyone who thinks that Paypal/Ebay/Amazon does not use this Tactic is CRAZY,,,I Know for a FACT they do,,,This is the Company that developed the fingerprint Software that PAYPAL uses:

Palantir Technologies

Do NOT Take fingerprinting lightly,,,It is REAL and it is now WIDESPREAD,,,you can get around it,,,,ONLY if you Know it is there,,,

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

rsot 04-04-2012 10:23 AM

Thanks NoneOther - I was thinking that WinXP user account was quite secure from sharing across user accounts. I guess I have to rethink this.

kathemmi 04-04-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 328238)
No Need to do that Young lady,,,User accounts are fine,,,Just make sure that some of your settings like screen Resolution, Desktop, Font size or Font type is different,,,Different browsers is good also,,different add ons,,like toolbars (AVG, Google, Yahoo, ect ect),Adobe Flash, Reader, Different Antivirus,,go to the website I Linked below,,,there you can learn all about Browser Fingerprinting,,and even get your system ,,"Fingerprinted" so you can see Just how unique your fingerptint is,,

Notice all the different aspects of your settings that the site looks at in order to create a "Fingerprint",,,Ebay/Paypal/Amazon check even MORE aspects to get an even MORE ACCURATE Fingerprint,,,Now understand that this site does this for FREE,,so anyone who thinks that Paypal/Ebay/Amazon does not use this Tactic is CRAZY,,,I Know for a FACT they do,,,This is the Company that developed the fingerprint Software that PAYPAL uses:

Palantir Technologies


Do NOT Take fingerprinting lightly,,,It is REAL and it is now WIDESPREAD,,,you can get around it,,,,ONLY if you Know it is there,,,

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Clicked the link palantir.com - got the message "This site can transmit malicious software or has been involved in online scams" - got out of there PDQ

Was amazed at the number of trackable items available through my explorer browser

NoneOther 04-04-2012 11:00 AM

Browser fingerprinting is a reality.

It is not new and has been known about for a long long time. Are there commercially available applications that companies are currently using? Quite probably

Are e/b & p/p using them? Quite probably

However I would say that if they were to any great extent using them then stealth would pretty much be dead in the water now.

People get so wrapped up in looking over their shoulder for e/b & p/p catching them out and that is the key phrase, "catching them out"

Part of their business it to minimise risk and detect fraud as we all know, that is for everyones protection. For your account to come under scrutiny in the normal course of events would imply that you have become a 'risk' in some way or a transaction may appear to be fraudulent, then they look closer.

If your account is run well and professionally then that scrutiny is less intense and in all probability you will never know your account has been 'under review'

If on the other hand your account is not run well or professionally then the scrutiny is more intense and you will know that your account is 'under review'

What I'm trying to say in a very long winded way is concentrate on running your business well and at all times remember the most important part of Aspkin's guide.

STAY UNDER THE RADAR

If you don't it doesn't matter a hill of beans how you set up your account or which bank and vcc you used because you won't have it any more.

NoneOther 04-04-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 328242)
Thanks NoneOther - I was thinking that WinXP user account was quite secure from sharing across user accounts. I guess I have to rethink this.

Win XP was never secure from day one anyway!

Do Microsoft even still support it?

GrannyT 04-04-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 328238)
No Need to do that Young lady,,

You are definitely me new best friend!!!!!:D

NoneOther 04-04-2012 12:47 PM

You've obviously still got 'it' then GT :thumb:

GrannyT 04-04-2012 02:20 PM

I'm a babe and Slapped is my hero!!!

When is he going to come and carry me off?

:ranger:

rsot 04-04-2012 03:00 PM

Slapped in a rare good mood =P Careful!

slapped 04-04-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyT (Post 328356)
I'm a babe and Slapped is my hero!!!

When is he going to come and carry me off?

:ranger:



Soon,Dear,,,,but What will Charlie say?,,,Of Course,,I would NOT let that stand in my way,,,as long as I have your blessing,,my fair maiden,,,,



( I can "Lay it on" pretty thick for a Yank,Don't you agree?)

GrannyT 04-05-2012 01:45 AM

Oh my, I'm swooning!!!! . :redface:

GreenBean 04-05-2012 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 328473)
Soon,Dear,,,,but What will Charlie say?,,,Of Course,,I would NOT let that stand in my way,,,as long as I have your blessing,,my fair maiden,,,,



( I can "Lay it on" pretty thick for a Yank,Don't you agree?)

Your account gotta be hacked :p

FandangoKango 04-05-2012 07:32 AM

I agree, google chrome is the worst stealth browser and internet explorer is so slow!

sokol3k 04-05-2012 09:13 AM

do you think this could be done because you have same internet provider and somehow cookies leeaked to the other acc ?, its very dificult to say what might be the cause :

defo buy MAC laptop amazing devices : i dumped windows 3 years ago and I dont go back again.

GrannyT 04-05-2012 11:42 AM


NoneOther 04-05-2012 11:57 AM

Good find GT but your still way safer with a Mac :thumb:

This is a Java based applet that MAY POSSIBLY infect a Mac. However as long as the latest version of Java is installed it can not compromise the machine.

Also it cannot self execute in the way that as similar viruses can on Windows machines and does require the user to accept a certificate that is purportedly sent by Apple but Apple never send such certificates and I would guess most Mac users know this.

Just in case you are hit by it, heres how to remove it


Disinfection

Manual Removal

Caution: Manual disinfection is a risky process; it is recommended only for advanced users. Otherwise, please seek professional technical assistance.


Manual Removal Instructions

1. Run the following command in Terminal:

defaults read /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info LSEnvironment

2. Take note of the value, DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES
3. Proceed to step 8 if you got the following error message:

"The domain/default pair of (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info, LSEnvironment) does not exist"

4. Otherwise, run the following command in Terminal:

grep -a -o '__ldpath__[ -~]*' %path_obtained_in_step2%

5. Take note of the value after "__ldpath__"
6. Run the following commands in Terminal (first make sure there is only one entry, from step 2):

sudo defaults delete /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info LSEnvironment

sudo chmod 644 /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info.plist

7. Delete the files obtained in steps 2 and 5
8. Run the following command in Terminal:

defaults read ~/.MacOSX/environment DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES

9. Take note of the result. Your system is already clean of this variant if you got an error message similar to the following:

"The domain/default pair of (/Users/joe/.MacOSX/environment, DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES) does not exist"

10. Otherwise, run the following command in Terminal:

grep -a -o '__ldpath__[ -~]*' %path_obtained_in_step9%

11. Take note of the value after "__ldpath__"
12. Run the following commands in Terminal:

defaults delete ~/.MacOSX/environment DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES

launchctl unsetenv DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES

13. Finally, delete the files obtained in steps 9 and 11.

NoneOther 04-05-2012 01:14 PM

Some further info just incase you are concerned about this

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/troj...shback_i.shtml

NoneOther 04-10-2012 03:50 PM

Here's a link to a handy utility to check for infection

https://github.com/jils/FlashbackChecker/wiki

NoneOther 04-13-2012 04:39 AM



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