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21 day hold outside of eBay
 

Just thought I'd share some info.

Lots of you guys have mentioned that you have received the poxy 21-day hold when selling goods outside of eBay.

I sell around 10-20 items a week outside of eBay (using several PayPals) and I have NEVER had a 21-day hold.

Yesterday, I sold something and the guy paid an invoice I sent for £300. Bam 21-day hold. I hate the policy so I refunded him explaining the situation. He then paid my back-up account instead. Bam 21-day hold. Yet again I refunded him and he was as confused as me.

He then paid my business account that I use on eBay. Guess what?! Bam, 21-day hold!!!!!!

It must be to do with him rather than me because these accounts are not linked and the invoices were all different, different computer/user accounts etc etc.

I assumed it was the seller that created a need for the 21-day hold but it appears not. The items are not vero and on the last invoice I didn't even write anything in the description.

On accounts where I have a 21 day hold, sometimes I can receive payments from people and it comes through with no hold, maybe 1 in 5 and this is through ebay

So your off ebay transactions got the full 21 day hold or were just held pending response to paypal.

Rather important to get that answered.

Maybe spilt it up into smaller transactions below $250 works for me! PayPal works like that $300 = hold...... 2 x $150 no hold but still = $300

Just have him send it as service, I do that all the time and never once had a hold from anyone and I've had people send me payments over a thousand many times to.

Do they have buyer protection if they send as service? Some might not send as service, if they don't.

Buyer protection is for ebay, I'm talking about off ebay transactions.

What are you talking about, there is buyer protection for off ebay transaction.

oh is there? never noticed.

Is it wise tyo have that buyer resend payments to all your paypal and then you give auto refunds. Wouldnt that be suspect to pp?

Why not just ship and provide tracking in which case you will receive yo6r money within a week

For INR as far as I can remember, for SNAD since 2010 or so.

Sorry, only just picked this up GB.

The off-eBay transactions (from the same guy as detailed above) got the FULL 21 day hold.

Bad news. I've only had temporary holds (less than 2 days) for off ebay transactions.
I do a full variety of payments on accounts in any case. :pout:

What's the big deal. If your running your business correctly the 21 day hold should mean nothing if make sure you keep enough capital in the business.

Are these accounts 3 months or younger?

For some reason I am seeing pp reverse a few off ebay transactions in the last week.

Dont get the holds but now seeing the reversing.

Holds outside ebay are not cool at all regardless, and definitely something new.

Paypal can EAD. I'm fed up with eBay & Paypal.

yeah ebay offer paypal protection so there is protection non stop on paypal..

Ship it then update tracking number. PP will release within 1-2 days after delivered.

Just got this today on one of my accounts. Note that other Paypals are still fine. Here is the clarification regarding the 21 day hold OFF ebay:

In other words, my account was randomly flagged for review by the system (this was not done by a person because I got this message 1 second after getting a payment) and it triggered 21 day holds on the Paypal account forever.

This does not apply to all Paypal accounts. The Paypal account was created months before May 26 and has been fully verified for a long time. This is on a per-account basis, and is done by the system automatically.

Just a obvious and maybe a stupid question but if you recieved and refunded funds on a

number of accounts would this not be a potential link between your PP accounts.

Did you read that part?

Dont see what the problem is anyway, Just send the item with tracking confirmation and once it is confirmed delivered wait 3 days and then send them an email and they will release it.

21 days became a fact, for ebay and none ebay payments, the good news is that you can easily avoid it, you just need so many experiments, read alot, and the most important thing is, you need to think like paypal, you need to know what they want and just give it to them, try to avoid red flag at all cost

I don't think it can be avoided but rather managed.

I sell a lot of stuff off ebay and do not get pp holds for off ebay sales.

how old is your account?

I used a variety of them for off ebay sales.

Most are 3 months old to 2 years old.

I actually sold several items off ebay when the 3 month old account was new and did not get a hold.

But, I have seen some reversals as well.

Should not be any holds on off ebay items on any account unless they see something they do not like.

I agree, the OP must have received lower amounts previous to this £300 deposit on his accounts for it to flag.

maybe if you send your payment as living expense, payment owed you wont get 21 day hold.

@token,

No guarantee.

If paypal wants to put funds on hold that's what they do.

I sell lots off ebay and have not had holds much at all and if I did they were very few and a while back.

Source of payment does factor in too for new-ish accounts.