| | | pr0wake | 06-05-2012 08:03 PM | Just got my hands on my buddies 10+ year old account... now what? How do I take care of it? It was suspended for non payment of fees for an unknown amount of time (very low amount btw). I paid it with a VV and it got instantly reinstated.
I changed the phone number and email addy on the account and thats it... I don't plan to change anything else.
How can i make this work with paypal? I started a new one and verified it with a VV, and am about to link a clean account number. |
| biggunn | 06-05-2012 09:01 PM | Sounds like you are taking the right steps. Make sure to build some cookies and browsing history with your new IP/computer before trying to sell anything.
Don't screw it up! |
| unkown5454 | 06-05-2012 09:07 PM | 10yr old EB account? The fact that you started changing stuff and are clearly on a new IP from when it was last used can already raise flags.
Where is his original PP account? You just plan to create a brand new one and attach it to the EB with mismatch information and away you go? Not hardly. You really need to do some research on this because you sound like you think you are going to go full throttle and make tens of thousands of dollars per month just because the EB account is 10 years old???? :nono: :nono: :nono: |
| pr0wake | 06-05-2012 09:45 PM | I know to start slowly. I definitely know that.
Im also thinking about opening an LLC in a similar name? idk. The paypal account i opened matches the information... I think im going to open an LLC that has his name. I know for a fact he didnt get prompted for his social, because he used to sell pre-IRS requirement. there have been no feedback for over a year for anything.
suggestions unknown? |
| pr0wake | 06-05-2012 09:49 PM | also, he hadnt accessed that account for a lonngggg while. He only logged in for a second before realizing he had a past due balance. Im positive he had no cookies built up. |
| Nissan2nr22 | 06-05-2012 09:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347607)
How do I take care of it? It was suspended for non payment of fees for an unknown amount of time (very low amount btw). I paid it with a VV and it got instantly reinstated.
I changed the phone number and email addy on the account and thats it... I don't plan to change anything else.
How can i make this work with paypal? I started a new one and verified it with a VV, and am about to link a clean account number. | Ahh man i have to start asking my friends for their accounts. Just make sure to build cookies and get a good amount of browsing history before selling, goodluck |
Where is his original PP account ? :noidea: |
| pr0wake | 06-05-2012 10:45 PM | Dunno, im sure he still has it. I didnt really ask him for it... maybe I should |
Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347632)
Dunno, im sure he still has it. I didnt really ask him for it... maybe I should | I think before you do anything else, you ought to find out the status of this previous PP A/C.
I am surprised it did not occur to you to have resolved the status of this PP from the outset. |
| pr0wake | 06-05-2012 11:04 PM | he still has it, im sure its not closed or in default. the guy is older and owed $12 to EB. the PP is registered under the same email his EB was, would it be wise of me to get my hands on that too? does it matter on an account that hasnt been used for over a year? |
Dunno,... im sure he still has it :confused:
Instead of all this -dunno/sure- uncertainty over the status of this previous PP, find out for FACT the exact status of this PP A/C, then I RECOMMEND you buy that PP A/C & any associated detailing off this buddy, & then take it from there.
This is where you should be as your starting point. |
| AmazonStealth | 06-06-2012 01:00 AM | this wont last long, as soon as taxes come into play......pay to play |
| GreenBean | 06-06-2012 03:11 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347607)
How do I take care of it? It was suspended for non payment of fees for an unknown amount of time (very low amount btw). I paid it with a VV and it got instantly reinstated.
I changed the phone number and email addy on the account and thats it... I don't plan to change anything else.
How can i make this work with paypal? I started a new one and verified it with a VV, and am about to link a clean account number. | Please dont do anything more until you have fully spoken to your buddy. Find out as much of the history as you can.
Be prepared there might be nasties the old buddy has been too lazy to tell you exist. To use the account you should know its history in any case.
'Old accounts' are not teh golden goose they used to be. Please bear that in mind. ebay sometimes gives them a hard time when they re-start.
Should you resolve the paypal issues then start at a slow pace. It's nice to have a buddy though for our ebay dreams :pop2: |
| newjerseymax | 06-06-2012 03:56 AM | Solid advice.... What if there are issues with previous pp you are unaware of? Instant limitation could occur.
Treat this baby more gentile then a new one. Once you get going 6-12 month down road then it could become valuable. Also, you are changing info to fast. They might think its been hacked and ask for ID, so be prepared. Will your buddy allow you to send his documents or call for you? |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 09:40 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by AmazonStealth
(Post 347657)
this wont last long, as soon as taxes come into play......pay to play | I'm going to open an LLC in his name. will that be ok? (his first) (his last) LLC. |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 10:00 AM | ok, buddy says the PP account is still active without problems, and he still uses it occasionally... |
| Sandy D | 06-06-2012 11:42 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347743)
I'm going to open an LLC in his name. will that be ok? (his first) (his last) LLC. | What?
First of all you should not be using his name for anything.
Second, if he still uses the pp then why does he not want the eb account anymore?
Something does not sound right here for someone to hand you over a 10 yr old eb account and not the pp that was attached.
How long has the eb account sat without using it? Could be another major issue. Then you start changing the info around.
Get ready to be asked for everything but the sink as you just drew notice to an old account.
This account could be awesome if you do things right, it has high feedback and has been recently used.
Slow down before you destroy it.
And do not open an LLC in his name, no need to do so.
If something goes wrong with this account then you just put him in a bad situation. |
| unkown5454 | 06-06-2012 11:45 AM | Good God this is going to crash and burn so hard. Try not to get killed by your friend when you get all of his accounts shut down. |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 12:42 PM | its not like I would be opening an LLC in his name, I would be creating a LLC business that looks like a normal name, in this case, his...
etc, Bob Thompson LLC - DBA Chris reynolds - Real name Brad Smith -
^^^ thats completely legal to do |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 12:46 PM | How the **** do you guys say to do one thing and then go completely against it? You say don't change information, and now you say change it?
I want to hear from people who actually know what to do.
I'm ignoring all the "somethings not right if he still uses the PP" thats just stupid here-say talk. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS EB ACCOUNT. its not like a bank account. he just got pissed at ebay fees and stopped using ebay. its been almost two years. |
| Sandy D | 06-06-2012 12:53 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347796)
How the **** do you guys say to do one thing and then go completely against it? You say don't change information, and now you say change it?
I want to hear from people who actually know what to do.
I'm ignoring all the "somethings not right if he still uses the PP" thats just stupid here-say talk. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS EB ACCOUNT. its not like a bank account. he just got pissed at ebay fees and stopped using ebay. its been almost two years. | When you spend 4 years on this board and have thousands of post then you can demand and yell.
Until then, learn for yourself. Or do you have the skills to do so.
If you had taken the time you would have learned that once you use the account for a while and doing well then you can change some info, until then and if the account has not been used it will draw flags.
But, since you are so stupid and dont want advice from anyone here then go ruin an account and screw your buddy over.
When he loses his account and needs it later because you are too stupid to take sound advise dont come back whining.
Cannot believe you calling us stupid when you seem to be dumb as a rock yourself or want us to hand feed you so when you screw up and come back and blame us for your stupidity.
Hope your buddy knows that if you screw up he could get his credit killed by a fool who is too lazy to make an account themselves. ** No sense in helping this idiot if he is going to call us out on everything.
Guess you are now on ignore or ignoranus I should say.
Have a nice day and I hope you dont get another bit of help from here because no one wants to help someone and then get called on the advice given. |
| GrannyT | 06-06-2012 12:59 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347796)
How the **** do you guys say to do one thing and then go completely against it? You say don't change information, and now you say change it?
I want to hear from people who actually know what to do.
I'm ignoring all the "somethings not right if he still uses the PP" thats just stupid here-say talk. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS EB ACCOUNT. its not like a bank account. he just got pissed at ebay fees and stopped using ebay. its been almost two years. | You have really pi**ed my friend SandyD off haven't you? Not a good move I'm afraid
And I'm too old to be spoken to like that so I'm passing as well
Good luck with it |
Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347796)
How the **** do you guys say to do one thing and then go completely against it? You say don't change information, and now you say change it?
I want to hear from people who actually know what to do.
I'm ignoring all the "somethings not right if he still uses the PP" thats just stupid here-say talk. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS EB ACCOUNT. its not like a bank account. he just got pissed at ebay fees and stopped using ebay. its been almost two years. | There is more to this EB/PP than meets the eye here. I sense you know more than you are saying about this PP A/C. |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 01:45 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 347802)
When you spend 4 years on this board and have thousands of post then you can demand and yell.
Until then, learn for yourself. Or do you have the skills to do so.
If you had taken the time you would have learned that once you use the account for a while and doing well then you can change some info, until then and if the account has not been used it will draw flags.
But, since you are so stupid and dont want advice from anyone here then go ruin an account and screw your buddy over.
When he loses his account and needs it later because you are too stupid to take sound advise dont come back whining.
Cannot believe you calling us stupid when you seem to be dumb as a rock yourself or want us to hand feed you so when you screw up and come back and blame us for your stupidity.
Hope your buddy knows that if you screw up he could get his credit killed by a fool who is too lazy to make an account themselves. ** No sense in helping this idiot if he is going to call us out on everything.
Guess you are now on ignore or ignoranus I should say.
Have a nice day and I hope you dont get another bit of help from here because no one wants to help someone and then get called on the advice given. | Im sorry I have annoyed you. I didn't mean to come across like that.
I did not say I didn't want advice from here, I pointed out how I'm getting misinformation. I did not mean to insult anyone, but I did need to get the point across since it took 3 times saying pretty much the same thing; that there is no mumbo-jumbo going on with either accounts oh his (I know you're not a fan of repeating yourself either).
You have to agree that wondering why this guy handed this EB account over without his PP is a needless question. He uses his PP occasionally. That is that. I don't want to abuse the privileges he had been so nice to give. I need to know how to continue without his PP.
I am definitely new here, and I have 10 stealth accounts brewing. I'm hoping for the best. I am no means a know-it-all and don't want to rub anyone the wrong way, especially since I am new here.
Im not a forum newb so maybe thats why things got out of hand. I apologize. |
| GrannyT | 06-06-2012 02:11 PM | OK - no sweat :thumb: |
| GreenBean | 06-06-2012 06:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347832)
Im sorry I have annoyed you. I didn't mean to come across like that. You have to agree that wondering why this guy handed this EB account over without his PP is a needless question. He uses his PP occasionally. That is that. I don't want to abuse the privileges he had been so nice to give. I need to know how to continue without his PP.
. I apologize. | NO question pertaining to the patency of a ebay account is needless.
Sorry taking that angle could mean your being give wrong advice.
I withdraw from giving you advice because my gut feeling is you may face hard times & problems.
I do repeat this is appearing more to look less like the golden goose you want.:peace: |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 07:29 PM | I think changing the address down the line, say after 5-10k of sales, then making an LLC will prove to be most effective.
I have two other accounts (not mine) with 100/5k limits. 2011 i sold 30k. in march this year I sold 30k...
stealthing is a complete game of strategy |
Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347938)
I think changing the address down the line, say after 5-10k of sales, then making an LLC will prove to be most effective.
I have two other accounts (not mine) with 100/5k limits. 2011 i sold 30k. in march this year I sold 30k...
stealthing is a complete game of strategy | Do these two other EB A/C also have an unattached PP A/C like this A/C described above or come without PP A/C ??? |
| Sandy D | 06-06-2012 08:16 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by prowakeskater
(Post 347832)
Im sorry I have annoyed you. I didn't mean to come across like that.
I did not say I didn't want advice from here, I pointed out how I'm getting misinformation. I did not mean to insult anyone, but I did need to get the point across since it took 3 times saying pretty much the same thing; that there is no mumbo-jumbo going on with either accounts oh his (I know you're not a fan of repeating yourself either).
You have to agree that wondering why this guy handed this EB account over without his PP is a needless question. He uses his PP occasionally. That is that. I don't want to abuse the privileges he had been so nice to give. I need to know how to continue without his PP.
I am definitely new here, and I have 10 stealth accounts brewing. I'm hoping for the best. I am no means a know-it-all and don't want to rub anyone the wrong way, especially since I am new here.
Im not a forum newb so maybe thats why things got out of hand. I apologize. |
In one ear and out the other. Calling someone stupid is not only rude but wrong especially when many of us spend "our" time helping a lot of other people new or old. |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 08:56 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by SUVE
(Post 347948)
Do these two other EB A/C also have an unattached PP A/C like this A/C described above or come without PP A/C ??? | one of both. both are still ticking, although the one that has a different paypal is the first that I attempted this stealth thing on, without knowing about this site or how to really be stealth... so it may have some linking due to cookies... which would mean ebay is just letting me continue, just to watch and learn from me.
As soon as I discovered this site, I made immediate actions to make it truly stealth, which just involved me setting up a new user account on my mac, and to STOP using proxy servers. Hopefully I didn't do too much damage, but I'm prepared for the consequences. :spy: Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 347950)
In one ear and out the other. Calling someone stupid is not only rude but wrong especially when many of us spend "our" time helping a lot of other people new or old. | I know it, and I'm sorry sandy, I did NOT mean to call you stupid. I should have left that word out completely, even though at the time, I thought it was an isolated incident. I say a lot of stupid things. Am I stupid? well, don't answer that :lol: I know you have vast wisdom that I wish to learn from. Please please please accept my apology for being a young and arrogant ass. |
You have three long standing EB A/C without PP A/C, which were previously attached to each respective PP A/C which you do not have at this time.
You are now attempting to add a new set of PP A/C to each of these three EB A/C previously registered to another PP A/C which are still in use by their original owners ???
From your descriptions, it would appear that you've also already inadvertently LINKED one of these EB A/C ???
I don't like the look of this.
:juggle: |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 10:00 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by SUVE
(Post 347971)
You have three long standing EB A/C without PP A/C, which were previously attached to each respective PP A/C which you do not have at this time.
You are now attempting to add a new set of PP A/C to each of these three EB A/C previously registered to another PP A/C which are still in use by their original owners ???
From your descriptions, it would appear that you've also already inadvertently LINKED one of these EB A/C ???
I don't like the look of this.
:juggle: | you are correct with 2/3 of my long standing EB A/C. One of which I have been using successfully for about a month... but, it may be linked due to my ignorance. The other one is in discussion in this thread. I have not linked anything to it yet, but I did make the other PP account already. It may also be noted that the one that is currently linked, being used, and possibly flagged, is also a CA A/C. It was heavily used before I came into ownership of it, regularly selling.
1/3 is still using the OG PP, which the OG owner no longer uses, only me. |
To cut a very long story short, what you are basically trying to do is re create another new set of PP A/C to attach to these EB A/C while the previously linked PP A/C to these EB A/C are still in existence.
I don't think this will work.
This is really complex, messy & fraught with problems as previously stated.
EDITS: I made immediate actions to make it truly stealth, which just involved me setting up a new user account on my mac, and to STOP using proxy servers. Hopefully I didn't do too much damage, but I'm prepared for the consequences.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This alone tells me this whole thing will fall apart before you've even got going. |
| pr0wake | 06-06-2012 10:51 PM | so the general consensus is that its just not possible? really? |
I know some people on here know much more than me about these things. Some of these folks include GreenBean™, GrannyT, Sandy D & oompaloompa.
I'll leave you in their care if they so oblige you on this - they are in a better position than me to tell you on this.
:pop2: |
| mercurial333 | 06-07-2012 12:59 AM | Everything is possible. Read the book and forums for a few weeks, then start slowly.
Meanwhile make more stealth accounts to operate. |
| cmbhuy | 06-07-2012 04:10 AM | The only thing i see wrong here is that the account is your friends account and that he still has an active Paypal on this account. If you do anything wrong on eBay his account has a chance of being taken down also, Plus eBay may wonder why you are not taking payments on the previously linked Paypal account and created another Paypal with the same information.
Just making sure, you say that he has the Paypal still and he uses it occasionally so that would mean that he is selling on other site or just using it to buy stuff online. You don't want to really mess anything up having two different people using the same account (information) technically.
only advice i can give you is make sure you get his permission and make sure he truly doesn't care what happens to that eBay account because there is always a chance of suspension or limitation |
| pr0wake | 06-07-2012 12:07 PM | the guy moves around a lot, and his address from 2 years ago that was on file with ebay is outdated and old.
He uses the paypal for occasional purchases only. He does not sell on any other sites or anything.
With the new PP I made, I used his old address so I wouldn't have to change anything else... yet.
he definitely has no interest in ebay anymore, but I want to be careful more than anything. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:35 PM. | |
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