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mantisinc 05-30-2008 05:57 AM

creating user accounts - an end to clearing cookies?
 
If I were to create a user account for every account I want to login to, would this mean there would be no reason to clear cookies?

Just wanted to get a definite answer on this one.

twdell 05-30-2008 07:19 AM

i thought i read that in a previous post too. i'm not 100% sure either though.

imjustme 05-30-2008 08:13 AM

That's correct :) I have 48 user accounts on my Windows machine right now. I also change their icons. For my eBay accounts, I select the eBay logo so I can easily spot them. But 47 of the 48 are for eBay anyways :D

zymo 05-30-2008 09:48 AM

Its great that you dont have to worry about cookies anymore. How about IP addy with different users on XP.

imjustme 05-30-2008 11:32 AM

You still have to be careful about the IPs.

SuperBowl 05-30-2008 11:39 AM

do we have to clear also the flash cookies also or keep them ?
i read an article about flash cookies that you read them using some tools?
i will update you about that.

imjustme 05-30-2008 12:31 PM

You can keep flash cookies :) Just get Firefox and install Objection on every account.

yogarelax 05-30-2008 04:51 PM

Now, I don`t get this .... why would you NOT clear cookies???

imjustme 05-30-2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Man (Post 43431)
If your keeping the cookies what is the reason to install objection on each account.

So that I can make sure I still have the cookie :) I don't want to phone verify 40+ accounts every time I list something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogarelax (Post 43461)
Now, I don`t get this .... why would you NOT clear cookies???

Because I manage each eBay account with a different Windows user account. It keeps the cookies separate.

yogarelax 05-30-2008 05:14 PM

But, I have cleared my cookies, no one called me. I realize i am a big zero, but why did They not call me??? { and don`t answer back, because you are a big zeto.}

mantisinc 05-30-2008 05:20 PM

That happens in July I think Alex.

So, both normal cookies and flash cookies are stored in different locations on differet user accounts?

All I need now is several more routers to overcome changing IP address, and I'm sorteeed :p

ebayhateluv 05-30-2008 07:33 PM

HI Guys:
Just an FYI...

I have used Public LIbraries for the last 8 months, just last month-tried the windows user accts--for 7 accts---out of the 7, 5 went down, all on the 26th... WHY?

I dont know, but those 5 accts were up prev., they gave the reason for all 5 as linked to a prev susp, acct, which was also on the same pc, but a diff user id...
>.It wasnt cookies sharing... it wasnt pics, 3 out of the 5 were not even selling, they were dormant---ONLY common denom was:
a.) windows users on same pc
b.) they all had auctiva accts

So--who knows? Anyhow--for me personally--Im not going to put all my eggs in 1 basket..

GreenBean 05-30-2008 09:30 PM

Aren't there two types of cookies?
 
I am confused {yes ya'll know I am blonde but make a comment & take the consequences}.:p

I thought there are the cookies that identify you that we clear to clean up the
trail by using ccleaner AND these new FLASH cookies that may possibly/probably be embedded by ebay as a way of saying 'yes this has communicated with ebay before & is recognized' OR 'oops, we do not recognize this & will take action.':confused:

YES/NO/WTHeck:rolleyes:

imjustme 05-31-2008 02:28 AM

eBay has said they will use both regular cookies AND flash cookies to identify you. They will look if a flash cookie is placed first. If it is, you won't need to phone verify. If there is no flash cookie, but a regular cookie, they won't ask for phone verification either. But if there is no cookie, you will need to verify your phone number.

So just make separate Windows user accounts for each of your eBay accounts and it will keep your regular cookies AND your flash cookies separate. No need to delete anything. And remember to install Objection on every account to ensure that your flash cookies are indeed there for every account before July so that you'll never have to worry about phone verification.

On top, remember to backup your computer regularly, because if it crashes one day and you need to format it, all your flash cookies will be gone. For me, I would hate to phone verify each of my currently 40+ accounts :D

kevinxu 05-31-2008 11:09 AM

hi imjustme,do you install new firefox on each windows user accounts or you just use the same firefox for all those user accounts?I know the flash objects would be planted in different folders but how about the regular cookies ?Where does firefox save regular cookies?

i just use firefox for ebay and when i use firefox to watch video on youtube,it requires me to install flash player and i guess thats why i havent got those flash objects from ebay yet.

mantisinc 05-31-2008 01:42 PM

Ebayhateluv, that's a little worrying isn't it. I wonder what it was linking you?

octagon69 06-03-2008 09:16 AM

I just don't understand why you would need this program objection? I'm going to look it up now, but if you have a different user account why would you need that? Or firefox for that matter.

ebayhateluv 06-03-2008 10:05 AM

I'm starting to think it is just a Random, (Every 1 out of 5 accts)-that have started to sell recently in the last 60 days thing?
As I have several 2 yr old accts as well as an 11 yr old acct on same pc--still up??

imjustme 06-03-2008 10:37 AM

I use the same Firefox installation as on my main administrator account (the one I used for all my regular stuff). But then I install Objection on my eBay user accounts. Why? Because I want to know which account has the Flash cookies. Up to you if you want to do this or not, but I rather have them and not have to worry about phone verification in July.

kevinxu 06-03-2008 10:52 AM

thank you imjustme,where does firefox save regular cookies?those flash objects wont be planted if i dont install install flash player to my firefox?

becca073 06-04-2008 02:29 PM

Can't you just use this link on each User Account to see if the flash cookie is still on the computer for that account? http://www.macromedia.com/support/do...manager07.html

becca073 06-04-2008 02:54 PM

So you are saying that accounts that have been sitting for a long time and just recently starting selling eBay is just suspending them randomly? Or did I miss what you were saying?

trader07 06-07-2008 03:13 AM

So in July I can't delete my cookies?

ebayhateluv 06-07-2008 10:18 AM

HI: I Live on the Border of 4 diff states--all within an hours drive, so between all 4, i have over 30 public libraries i go to, all diff ips.. So- cant be the ip---

John14789 06-12-2008 08:30 PM

You got it going on man 47 accounts WOW!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imjustme (Post 43369)
That's correct :) I have 48 user accounts on my Windows machine right now. I also change their icons. For my eBay accounts, I select the eBay logo so I can easily spot them. But 47 of the 48 are for eBay anyways :D

So let me get this straight. Suppose if I create 5 seperate users on my pc how would I get different ip addresses for each user on one pc? And if one of users gets suspended what am I to do then, get a new computer?

I almost have everything down this and one or two more things and I'm ready to sell again :)

Thanks in advance for help :D

bbcoach 06-12-2008 10:11 PM

I also use a Public library, I have had 2-accounts suspended on that ip, and still have 3 others up without problems.

trust & safety retards 06-16-2008 11:26 PM

By creating a new windows user name the cookies are seperated for each of your eBay accounts so the info can be sperated for each individual user and the website cannot read the username of the specific cookies that are being used.

So bearing that in mind along with changing the IP surely that should be all that is needed (so long as you have non-infected info for your eb accounts) to make sure they are not linked with previously infected accounts.

So if people are still experiencing problems then perhaps there is more to it than what I stated above and I am wondering this:

Can eBay check the following details:

Windows Registered Name
Windows Registered Organization
Windows Serial Number
Computer HOSTNAME
Desktop Resolution

If it can and anyone needs help wanting to know how to change your windows info then let me know and I will publish it here.

I am thinking what with mixed reports about using new windows user accounts that there is still more too it than just doing that and changing IP. Modee has a list of things he does before he accesses his accounts and I am sure it may have something to do with some of the things I have listed above.

After all if you log onto some websites they are able to tell you some of the following info plus more:

What browser you are using
Windows XP/Vista etc
Resolution
Hostname
Windows registered name/organization

So what would stop eBay being able to know this info?

ebayisanecessaryevil 06-17-2008 12:27 PM

ebayhateluv,
What did the emails say? What code was in the subject line? Lately I've been getting 055's when I lose a bunch of accounts at once, and the email says

"You have been linked to suspended user: XYZ. But the interesting thing is, XYZ isn't one of my accounts. (Not putting the name they used cause ebay is watching me :p) "

Steveo3818 06-17-2008 01:01 PM

User Accounts on Mac work the same as PC?
 
currently I'm running my accounts (11 of them ) on a Powerbook G4 and am trying to get my ducks in a row with the cookies and avoid phone-id.

Is anyone out their working on a Mac and using multiple users on OSX?
How are things working out for you?

I am assuming that the basic premise of changing user accounts for each ebay id would be the same on a Mac but would like to be sure?

Thanks

Steveo3818

imjustme 06-17-2008 01:18 PM

They can't check Windows Serial numbers, that's for sure. Otherwise Microsoft would sue them.

trust & safety retards 06-17-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjustme (Post 45869)
They can't check Windows Serial numbers, that's for sure. Otherwise Microsoft would sue them.

But what about Windows Registered User and Registered Organization, along with the other things I mentioned such as Desktop resolution and what type of windows package etc?

Aspkin will be able to see what browser, IP and service pack we all have just from checking our details when we log in. Surely eBay's security checks is better than just Cookies and IPs.


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