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Hi guy, so my legit Amazon account got permanently suspended, oh well. Bought Amazon Stealth last night and stay up all night reading and formulating. Here is what I'm planning to do to open my first stealth amazon account:

New permanent address.
Using a new wells fargo account.
Using a vanilla Visa card.
New google voice phone number.
New Gmail email.
Planning to use VMware & MAC spoofing with SMAC.
Router swapping for IP address.

Planning to sell low item stuff for the first month, asking for customers feedbacks etc.

Are there anything that I'm missing, any input is much appreciated.
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I'm also thinking of using a spare laptop I have around, that way I don't have to worry about VMware.
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Make sure your Visa card always has a $10 balance on it at all times.

I have not used GV for AZ but its probably still good - just be aware that may get a burned number from time to time (other correct me if wrong).

New user account too
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So everything beside Google voice (sketchy) look good to go? I'll probably use my spare laptop for now since I dont have a disc or iso of any os available right now.
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Finally open two stealth amazon account using US bank, checking and saving number. I also open one stealt ebay/pp account using the same info as one of the Amazon Stealth account. I have one questions, I open a new gmail account for these stealth account and I'm using a separate computer which use a broadband stick to connect to the internet. The question I'm trying to ask is if I used my old computer to check this new gmail account email, will either Amazon or ebay can still link my new stealth account info to my suspended one?

And if I use my cell phone to check the new gmail account, can they link me thru that as well? Thanks.

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Do not check email from suspended computer. I don't know how (images blocked aka beacons) yet AZ was still able to link me to the account. It was the only time I did and they caught me within minutes. They have outstanding techniques.
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I used gmail. Do you know for cell phone?
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Sorry to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I don't trust Gmail one little bit these days.

First of all, when creating new gmail accounts it often prompts to enter a phone number.

Then when watching YouTube it will automatically log you in if you are.logged into Gmail.

Also, when they brought out option to be logged into multiple gmail accounts at the same time I thought it was cool. Then I realised its a chance for them to see what accounts you have.

Gmail is fine for stealth though

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Oh ok thanks :D will only log onto my amazon/eBay Stealth computer to check email, but since I'm on the road a lot, I usually check my email on my cell phone, will that get link to as well?
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were you able to make stealth account with vanilla visa? i tried couple of them and all of them got linked within 10mins.
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Yeah I use vanilla visa gift card that expire in 2020. It's working so far, finger cross.
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If your planning on doing Amazon long term they will ask for Tax ID. I would be planning to overcome that obstacle when it comes, and it will if you sell on the account long enough or go Pro.

Other than that I have did many Amazon accounts as you are doing with little problem. Just be diligent not to get them linked.
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Also I wouldn't worry about MAC address, just make sure you don't use same IP.
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I have did many Amazon's with Vanilla Visa. Make sure to register the zip code on Vanilla Visa's website. Make sure the card has 20$ or so balance and I would suggest leaving the balance on the card as Amazon will authorize the card again every now and again.
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Hi dallasreed, you don't need to register vanilla visa with name and address,just zipcode? I registered with zipcode,but not able to registered with name and address.Amazon Ghost said need to register with name and address
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Also I wouldn't worry about MAC address, just make sure you don't use same IP.
Amazon can/do pick up on the MAC address - that would be an issue if it was the same on all your different accounts, no ???
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Amazon can/do pick up on the MAC address - that would be an issue if it was the same on all your different accounts, no ???
Yeah, they do track mac address. I'm using a new computer for this account so I don't have to worry about it. For IP address, I'm using a prepaid mobile broadband stick from tmobile. So far got my first account trasnfer, we'll see how it goes since it seem like Amazon is starting to mass delete account.
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Does anyone have any real evidence that Amazon can/does get your Mac Address?

There is no way they can unless they are running some kind of Java applet, which you would most likely have to authorize/download/or would notice running.

I see a lot of people going on about this Mac address tracking, but I believe it is just speculation.

I run Amazon accounts with no steps taken for Mac address and haven't had accounts linked.

Discovering a MAC address from an IP Address is only possible if the queried network is externally running ARP or NDP. These are not run on the internet, only on an internal network. Therefore MAC addresses are not available outside your local network. ARP is not a route-able protocol; there is no way you could get the MAC of a visitor to your site unless they were on the same network.

Amazon will see the MAC of the device which forwarded the packet to the server, likely their border router(s).

In IPv6, the 64 bit "host" part of the full 128 bit address is often automatically generated from the MAC address, and hence might be visible to the server one connects to, but that is a long stretch and as it stands noone is probably using IPv6 for Amazon.

I graduated university as an electrical engineer/technologist specializing in microcontrollers and networking.
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Hi dallasreed, you don't need to register vanilla visa with name and address,just zipcode? I registered with zipcode,but not able to registered with name and address.Amazon Ghost said need to register with name and address
I just registered zip code.
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Does anyone have any real evidence that Amazon can/does get your Mac Address?

There is no way they can unless they are running some kind of Java applet, which you would most likely have to authorize/download/or would notice running.

I see a lot of people going on about this Mac address tracking, but I believe it is just speculation.

I run Amazon accounts with no steps taken for Mac address and haven't had accounts linked.

Discovering a MAC address from an IP Address is only possible if the queried network is externally running ARP or NDP. These are not run on the internet, only on an internal network. Therefore MAC addresses are not available outside your local network. ARP is not a route-able protocol; there is no way you could get the MAC of a visitor to your site unless they were on the same network.

Amazon will see the MAC of the device which forwarded the packet to the server, likely their border router(s).

In IPv6, the 64 bit "host" part of the full 128 bit address is often automatically generated from the MAC address, and hence might be visible to the server one connects to, but that is a long stretch and as it stands noone is probably using IPv6 for Amazon.

I graduated university as an electrical engineer/technologist specializing in microcontrollers and networking.
i graduated with the same major, and i totally agree with you, though a lot of people are warning about it..so i just follow what they say lol
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IDK I just follow what the stealth guide said.
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